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Does the ACLU do more harm than good?

Does the ACLU do more harm than good?

  • Oui

    Votes: 36 49.3%
  • Nyet

    Votes: 37 50.7%

  • Total voters
    73
aquapub: Good post in #447.
 
aquapub said:
When Mayor Guiliani pulled tax dollars from a Catholic bashing art series (under the reasoning that public money should not be funding the trashing of anyone's religion), the American Criminal Liberties Union moronically identified it as a 1st Amendment issue (as if any anti-Catholic bigot with a paint brush is ENTITLED to our tax dollars) :roll: and tried to use the court system to retaliate.

In Cincinnati, when a PRIVATE group wanted to put on a play based on an Israeli girl who survived a Palestinian suicide bombing (hence it was contrary to liberal sentiment) and the University and PC police used the courts to shut the whole thing down, the ACLU was repeatedly petitioned but would do nothing.


The ACLU intervenes when there isn't an actual 1st Amendment issue and does nothing when the 1st Amendment actually IS being trampled.


The question heading this topic is too much of an understatement in itself. The ACLU does nothing but advance the views of the DNC. Its actions speak for themselves. They are completely partisan.

They DID pretend to defend Rush Limbaugh's right to doctor-patient privilege for two whole hours once, but that was just their annual "do something to look less biased" routine.


VERY WELL said. But remember some of the libs here are very sick people in need of mental help. We have to try & take what they say with a grain of salt.
 
tr1, what do you think our american nation stands for and what do you think its destroying? Because I always thought it was freedom of speech freedom of the press etc. but apparently you think different. Mind telling me what the ACLU is destroying?

Oh yeah and Aqua let me some sources for your quotes on this

When Mayor Guiliani pulled tax dollars from a Catholic bashing art series (under the reasoning that public money should not be funding the trashing of anyone's religion), the American Criminal Liberties Union moronically identified it as a 1st Amendment issue (as if any anti-Catholic bigot with a paint brush is ENTITLED to our tax dollars) and tried to use the court system to retaliate.

In Cincinnati, when a PRIVATE group wanted to put on a play based on an Israeli girl who survived a Palestinian suicide bombing (hence it was contrary to liberal sentiment) and the University and PC police used the courts to shut the whole thing down, the ACLU was repeatedly petitioned but would do nothing.


The ACLU intervenes when there isn't an actual 1st Amendment issue and does nothing when the 1st Amendment actually IS being trampled.


The question heading this topic is too much of an understatement in itself. The ACLU does nothing but advance the views of the DNC. Its actions speak for themselves. They are completely partisan.

They DID pretend to defend Rush Limbaugh's right to doctor-patient privilege for two whole hours once, but that was just their annual "do something to look less biased" routine.

I don't rightly trust someone who calls the ACLU the american criminal liberties union.
 
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hipsterdufus said:
That's funny!

I thought you didn't like humor?


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No, I love humor, some have even suggested I'm a funny guy myself.;)
 
Yeah well didn't work. . .Ah well you wouldn't have liked it anyways Deegan lmao. in fact, I wouldn't have been surpirsed if I was flamed for it. Yeah its probably best I didn't show you at all.

I bet you really want to know what it is now don't you? Well I'm not telling! haha! hey this thread isn't even supposed to be a 'Who can post the most immature partisan humor' thread so screw it.
 
FinnMacCool said:
Yeah well didn't work. . .Ah well you wouldn't have liked it anyways Deegan lmao. in fact, I wouldn't have been surpirsed if I was flamed for it. Yeah its probably best I didn't show you at all.

I bet you really want to know what it is now don't you? Well I'm not telling! haha! hey this thread isn't even supposed to be a 'Who can post the most immature partisan humor' thread so screw it.

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har dee har har har :shock:
 
Deegan said:
The ACLU is no different from any group that relies on donations, they are steered by those who donate the most money, and are nothing more then puppets for rich left leaning elitists.

Your spin on this is extremely subjective and ridiculous.

One of the most pertinent "groups" steered by those who donate the most money is our legislative branch. Either you've never heard of lobbyism or you think you're a wise guy. RE: L-O-B-B-Y-I-S-M. Cross reference that word with L-E-G-I-S-L-A-T-I-O-N. (I'm just assuming that you CAN read.)

I suppose you think the FEDeral Reserve is some type of non-profit, tax payer sanctioned, democratic organization? ERRRRRRNT! Wrong again... Tell em what he's won Johnny. (a free membership in the hypocrite, imbecil, idiot savant, toad of the month club!)
 
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Conflict said:
You're spin on this is extremely subjective and ridiculous.

You mean to tell me that the ACLU doesnt accept contributions? And that any organization that accepts contributions doesnt at all do things that would please their contributors? It is you who have a problem using your head to decipher common sense. It is called business Mr. Conflict and I suggest you start learning what the real world is all about.

One of the most pertinent "groups" steered by those who donate the most money is our legislative branch. Either you've never heard of lobbyism or you think you're a wise guy. Again, L-O-B-B-Y-I-S-M. Cross reference that word with L-E-G-I-S-L-A-T-I-O-N. (I'm just assuming that you CAN read.)

Yes and do you know what is contained in the legislative branch? Yep thats right, democrats and republicans. And do you know who is mostly supporting the ACLU? O you dont know? Well let me help you. It is the democrats. And do you know what democrats mostly pertain too? Yep thats right liberalism which is also know as a mental disorder.

I suppose you think the FEDeral Reserve is some type of non-profit, tax payer sanctioned, democratic organization? ERRRRRRNT! WRong again... Tell em what he's one Johnny. (a free membership in the hypocrite, imbecil, idiot savant, toad of the month club!)

I suppose you think the ACLU is the best thing that ever hapened to you since you got your rectum reemed? DING DING DING!!! Right again! Tell me what ive WON(not one) Johnny. (president of his own organizaton the CSTPofA) COMMON SENSE THINKING PEOPLE of AMERICA
 
SKILMATIC said:
You mean to tell me that the ACLU doesnt accept contributions? And that any organization that accepts contributions doesnt at all do things that would please their contributors? It is you who have a problem using your head to decipher common sense. It is called business Mr. Conflict and I suggest you start learning what the real world is all about.



Yes and do you know what is contained in the legislative branch? Yep thats right, democrats and republicans. And do you know who is mostly supporting the ACLU? O you dont know? Well let me help you. It is the democrats. And do you know what democrats mostly pertain too? Yep thats right liberalism which is also know as a mental disorder.



I suppose you think the ACLU is the best thing that ever hapened to you since you got your rectum reemed? DING DING DING!!! Right again! Tell me what ive WON(not one) Johnny. (president of his own organizaton the CSTPofA) COMMON SENSE THINKING PEOPLE of AMERICA

LOL! I guess I may have been mad had you succeeded in even attempting to refute one of my claims... but nope. Just one big Ad-Hominem (and several other fallacies which could be elucidated in latin codes of ethic). Nice concession. Very eloquent. And yet you cite common sense. How ironic.

Some of my views are liberal, others are conservative. For example I appreciate civil liberty but I hate gun laws (seriously). Makes sense right? OF course it does. :cool:

Bottom line: the ACLU supports our constitution. IF you don't like that then GET THE HELL OUT. :rofl
 
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Conflict said:
Your spin on this is extremely subjective and ridiculous.

One of the most pertinent "groups" steered by those who donate the most money is our legislative branch. Either you've never heard of lobbyism or you think you're a wise guy. RE: L-O-B-B-Y-I-S-M. Cross reference that word with L-E-G-I-S-L-A-T-I-O-N. (I'm just assuming that you CAN read.)

I suppose you think the FEDeral Reserve is some type of non-profit, tax payer sanctioned, democratic organization? ERRRRRRNT! Wrong again... Tell em what he's won Johnny. (a free membership in the hypocrite, imbecil, idiot savant, toad of the month club!)

I don't appreciate your playground mentality, speak to me like a grown up, or go play somewhere else.

The only thing you've done here is prove my point, of course the House is steered by Republicans, we control it, as the people have voted, and it is a reality. The ACLU is being steered by the left, and they have been for quite sometime now, they were once steered by the communists. Now did you have anything relevant to add, or did you just come in here to stick out your chest, and call me names?:confused:
 
Deegan said:
I don't appreciate your playground mentality, speak to me like a grown up, or go play somewhere else.

The only thing you've done here is prove my point, of course the House is steered by Republicans, we control it, as the people have voted, and it is a reality. The ACLU is being steered by the left, and they have been for quite sometime now, they were once steered by the communists. Now did you have anything relevant to add, or did you just come in here to stick out your chest, and call me names?:confused:

Give me an example of one name that I called you? I used real, english, definitive terms to describe your character.

You also refuse to address my concerns. Yet you attack me in the aspect that i've called you names, when in fact, i've only used adjectives and not expletives.

I am not here for partisan debate. I am Independent. I could care less if you ride an elephant or a donkey. The more you patronize me with your partisanship the more I will slam you for it.
 
SKILMATIC said:
It is the democrats. And do you know what democrats mostly pertain too? Yep thats right liberalism which is also know as a mental disorder.

Still quoting that Michael Savage horseshit I see.............

If supporting the constitution means having a mental disorder, well, ****, send my ass off to the asylum.
 
Caine said:
SKILMATIC said:
Still quoting that Michael Savage horseshit I see.............

If supporting the constitution means having a mental disorder, well, ****, send my ass off to the asylum.

Well if all the ACLU did was support and uphold the constitution then there would be no argument but this is sadly not the case it seems that the ACLU only promotes civil rights for whom they see fit, why I ask you, does the ACLU not take a stance on the Second amendment and gun control? Hmmm, maybe because they are infact not a bi-partisan organization as most ACLU members would have you believe, are some parts of the constitution not worth fighting for?:

http://www.cwfa.org/articledisplay.asp?id=6270&department=LEGAL&categoryid=misc
 
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LOL! I guess I may have been mad had you succeeded in even attempting to refute one of my claims... but nope. Just one big Ad-Hominem (and several other fallacies which could be elucidated in latin codes of ethic). Nice concession. Very eloquent. And yet you cite common sense. How ironic.

Some of my views are liberal, others are conservative. For example I appreciate civil liberty but I hate gun laws (seriously). Makes sense right? OF course it does.

Bottom line: the ACLU supports our constitution. IF you don't like that then GET THE HELL OUT

Well thats funny cause you wouldnt know if anyone did anything cause you have no idea whats the difference between a turbo and a fuel pump.

I appreciate civil liberties too. I also hate gun laws so we agree there. You have gained some credibility for stating that.

Bottom line, the ACLU has supported our constitution in some ways but not all and lately it hasnt even been close.

Btw, I am still waiting for a response to the questions regarding your engine.

Still quoting that Michael Savage horseshit I see.............

If supporting the constitution means having a mental disorder, well, ****, send my ass off to the asylum.

Still eating horseshit I see.......

If you think the ACLU is supporting the constitution then you are a mental disorder and I will be delighted to take you to the asylum.

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Originally Posted by SKILMATIC

Still quoting that Michael Savage horseshit I see.............

If supporting the constitution means having a mental disorder, well, ****, send my ass off to the asylum.


Well if all the ACLU did was support and uphold the constitution then there would be no argument but this is sadly not the case it seems that the ACLU only promotes civil rights for whom they see fit, why I ask you, does the ACLU not take a stance on the Second amendment and gun control? Hmmm, maybe because they are infact not a bi-partisan organization as most ACLU members would have you believe, are some parts of the constitution not worth fighting for?:

Please dont do that to me trajan. I would never say anything so stupid in my life.
 
SKILMATIC said:
Well thats funny cause you wouldnt know if anyone did anything cause you have no idea whats the difference between a turbo and a fuel pump.

I appreciate civil liberties too. I also hate gun laws so we agree there. You have gained some credibility for stating that.

Bottom line, the ACLU has supported our constitution in some ways but not all and lately it hasnt even been close.

Btw, I am still waiting for a response to the questions regarding your engine.



Still eating horseshit I see.......

If you think the ACLU is supporting the constitution then you are a mental disorder and I will be delighted to take you to the asylum.



Please dont do that to me trajan. I would never say anything so stupid in my life.

I don't know why that happened I guess it was cuz it was a double quote or something but if you notice at the very top it says originally quoted by Caine.
 
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