Does fact checking discriminate against conservatives?

[Ikari]

That is unwise to say such things. i have had my same views long before MAGA was a slogan. It is just conicidental that they agree with me on so many things.

Should I be stupid and say everything they stand for is wrong like the left does?

You just sat there and said the left on whole has been lying for decades. There ain't bigger set of lies than those that MAGA continually vomits.

 

[rickc]

FACT CHECKING!!!

The right spends billions of dollars creating and disseminating their version of reality. They have a large percentage of our population that only accepts information from those sources.

They can't allow any process that questions their version of reality. If the truth was introduced into their reality the right wing reality could evaporate before their eyes.

This is why there are so many threats to main stream media and outspoken critics of right wing propaganda.

A true unbiased accepted fact checking agency would put the conservative agenda quickly out of business.

 

[Felis Leo]

Hunter Biden's criminal defense attorneys are "fact-checkers"?

 

[Lord of Planar]

You just sat there and said the left on whole has been lying for decades. There ain't bigger set of lies than those that MAGA continually vomits.

Yes, as a whole, the left lies over and over.

The right lies to.

I could care less about the collective yoiu wish to call MAGA. i find it short-sighted to try to lunp any of us who disaagree with you as MAGA. The slogan is correct. I do not agree with all that is attributed to them.

Make America Great Again. Why does the left want to Make America Lame?

 

[Lord of Planar]

FACT CHECKING!!!

The right spends billions of dollars creating and disseminating their version of reality. They have a large percentage of our population that only accepts information from those sources.

Really? what link do you have that makes the claim the left is no different?

They both do.

They can't allow any process that questions their version of reality. If the truth was introduced into their reality the right wing reality could evaporate before their eyes.

All of this you are saying, you can remover the word "fight" and replace it with "left."

This is why there are so many threats to main stream media and outspoken critics of right wing propaganda.

A true unbiased accepted fact checking agency would put the conservative agenda quickly out of business.

LOL...

You appear brainwashed to me, not understanding it applies to both sides.

 

[lynnwinslow]

You would see them for yourself if you verifies what is claimed. I'm not wasting my time for you, because next, you will want me to dig up material I already know, but would have to search for again. You are not worth my time. Besides, I do not like president Trump anymore than most people. I see him as the lesser evil and do like that he is trying to restore our economy to what it once was.

The left has vilified and lied so many times, and you guys are too ignorant to verify if what is said is fact or fiction. That is a habit you need to break. Start verifying what the news and pundits claim. Do your own homework, or remain believing the lies. I really don't give a shit. I have already leaned with my years in these forums, i cannot change anyone's mind unless that are willing to seek the facts also.

For someone who claims to care about facts, you sure seem reluctant to provide any.

 

[craig]

Wow. You have some strange things you believe about your fellow Americans.

QAnon believers were among those who scaled walls and stormed the US Capitol on Wednesday.
Supporters of the conspiracy theory, who Donald Trump once said were “people who loved our country”, were pictured with QAnon banners as they broke into the federal building.
Police also stopped a man known as “the QAnon Shaman” from storming across the Senate floor, and identified him as a leading promoter of the conspiracy in online forums.

 

[Ikari]

Yes, as a whole, the left lies over and over.

The right lies to.

I could care less about the collective yoiu wish to call MAGA. i find it short-sighted to try to lunp any of us who disaagree with you as MAGA. The slogan is correct. I do not agree with all that is attributed to them.

Make America Great Again. Why does the left want to Make America Lame?

I don't lump anyone who disagrees with me as MAGA, I call MAGA "MAGA".

And MAGA isn't about making anything great, least of all America. MAGA hates America. That's why they got their Dear Leader in charge and are pushing their Single Party rule and anti-capitalist policies. MAGA wants to turn America into a Chinese knockoff.

 

[noonereal]

You are being a racist when race matters to you. You only care about the color of a person's skin, rather than their abilities.

President Trump is free to choose from the people he knows and trusts. How many black people are at the necessary skill and have conservative values? What is it, about 12% of the population black? So being ignorant and only looking at that balance, you would expect 6 of the 53 to be black. How many blacks vote left vs. right? Isn't that something like 90 to 10? Now when you look at the combination of finding a right leaning black person, they only are about 1.7% of the population. 1.7% of 53 is 0.92.

If you are looking for balance, there it is, without the retarded DEI.

Why do you guys fall for this stupid bullshit all the time?

Now there is a sad truth that the equity of blacks vs. whites is still not there. This will take time. there are probably four times as many qualified whites per 100,000 whites than there are blacks per 100,00 blacks as well.

Using race as a primary metric is flat out stupid.

Stop believing the media and hatemongers that tell you these stupid statistics.

Excuse making much?

 

[Felis Leo]

Skin color is important to racists. They do not know how to judge a person by merit.

Most racists truly do believe in merit. They just do not believe certain races are capable of reaching the levels of merit necessary to fill certain jobs or roles. And if members of the races they hold in contempt clearly demonstrate such levels of merit, they either cheated or are the very rare exceptions who simply prove the rule.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Let’s be accurate here. In the 1860’s Democrats didn’t want their slaves leaving the plantation.

Yes, extremist Southern conservatives, the Antebellum Southern plantation owners wanted to keep Blacks as slaves. You, like so many rightwingers, have this fantasy that they were liberals like today. It was just the opposite.

In the 21st century, Democrats don’t want minorities leaving the virtual plantation of government dependency.

You just have all kinds of tropes, Southern conservative Whites switched to the GOP as Blacks abandoned the GOP. You just can't accept the reality of history.

Black Conservatives Speak Out: “I left the Democrat Plantation.” | South Shore Press

Civil and Constitutional Rights Attorney, Tricia Lindsey, spoke with SSP about her thoughts on being black, a woman, and a Republican. Lindsey pushes back on the idea that being black or a woman dictates how she should think and vote.

southshorepress.com

Even this writer is able to recognize that it is a matter of conservative/liberal differences that defines the parties to-day.

 

[Lord of Planar]

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QAnon believers were among those who scaled walls and stormed the US Capitol on Wednesday.
Supporters of the conspiracy theory, who Donald Trump once said were “people who loved our country”, were pictured with QAnon banners as they broke into the federal building.
Police also stopped a man known as “the QAnon Shaman” from storming across the Senate floor, and identified him as a leading promoter of the conspiracy in online forums.

Yes, I know it. A small fringe group that live rent free in the hears of liberals.

 

[Felis Leo]

Let’s be accurate here. In the 1860’s Democrats didn’t want their slaves leaving the plantation. In the 21st century, Democrats don’t want minorities leaving the virtual plantation of government dependency.

Black Conservatives Speak Out: “I left the Democrat Plantation.” | South Shore Press

Civil and Constitutional Rights Attorney, Tricia Lindsey, spoke with SSP about her thoughts on being black, a woman, and a Republican. Lindsey pushes back on the idea that being black or a woman dictates how she should think and vote.

southshorepress.com

Okay. So if someone is a poor working-class black person, working a full-time minimum-wage job and receiving supplemental governmental aid for themselves and their children, how does voting for the Republican Party over the Democratic Party materially benefit them? Paint us a picture of what life off the so-called "plantation of government dependency" looks like.

 

[Lord of Planar]

I don't lump anyone who disagrees with me as MAGA, I call MAGA "MAGA".

And MAGA isn't about making anything great, least of all America. MAGA hates America. That's why they got their Dear Leader in charge and are pushing their Single Party rule and anti-capitalist policies. MAGA wants to turn America into a Chinese knockoff.

Well, we disagree.

 

[rickc]

Really? what link do you have that makes the claim the left is no different?

They both do.

All of this you are saying, you can remover the word "fight" and replace it with "left."

LOL...

You appear brainwashed to me, not understanding it applies to both sides.

Well only one side has lost court cases and paid hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuit settlements for lying.

Only one side has their own media outlets to disseminate their right wing propaganda

Only one side is constantly fighting the use of fact checkers.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

This will take time. there are probably four times as many qualified whites per 100,000 whites than there are blacks

The lack of wage gains of Blacks vs Whites is independent of education levels:

African Americans are paid less than whites at every education level

While the economy continues to improve and wages are finally beginning to inch up for most Americans, African Americans are still being paid less than whites at every education level. As you can see from the chart below, while a college education results in higher wages—both for whites and...

www.epi.org

 

[Ikari]

Well, we disagree.

You can disagree with reality as much as you want. Measurement is superior to lies.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Excuse making much?

I am sorry that you think understanding the dynamics of things is making an excuse. I am only showing that simpleton thinking is not proper.

What does your math show?

 

[rickc]

The lack of wage gains of Blacks vs Whites is independent of education levels:

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African Americans are paid less than whites at every education level

While the economy continues to improve and wages are finally beginning to inch up for most Americans, African Americans are still being paid less than whites at every education level. As you can see from the chart below, while a college education results in higher wages—both for whites and...

www.epi.org

And women get paid less than men.

Is it fair. No but it is our reality.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Most racists truly do believe in merit. They just do not believe certain races are capable of reaching the levels of merit necessary to fill certain jobs or roles.

If they are a racist, yes. The problem is disregarding the other factors, and calling a person a racist out of ignorance.

And if members of the races they hold in contempt clearly demonstrate such levels of merit, they either cheated or are the very rare exceptions who simply prove the rule.

Yes, the democrats clearly show their contempt.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Okay. So if someone is a poor working-class black person, working a full-time minimum-wage job and receiving supplemental governmental aid for themselves and their children, how does voting for the Republican Party over the Democratic Party materially benefit them? Paint us a picture of what life off the so-called "plantation of government dependency" looks like.

My answer is the democrats only offer lip service, and never really do anything to advance them.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

And women get paid less than men.

Is it fair. No but it is our reality.

Um, the point that LoP tried to argue is that Blacks have not reached levels of "qualification" to cause equal rates of income. I just showed that with the same levels of education, Blacks still get lower rates of pay.

 

[Felis Leo]

If they are a racist, yes. The problem is disregarding the other factors, and calling a person a racist out of ignorance.

Yes, the democrats clearly show their contempt.

Well that depends. There are easy tells. For example the moment someone unironically calls someone of another ethnic background a DEI hire, they have outed themselves as a racist.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Well only one side has lost court cases and paid hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuit settlements for lying.

Only one side has their own media outlets to disseminate their right wing propaganda

Only one side is constantly fighting the use of fact checkers.

Who cares? When you have so much hatred, reality changes. This doesn't directly apply, but this woman is amazing.

 

[craig]

Yes, I know it. A small fringe group that live rent free in the hears of liberals.

Trump pardoned him along with 1000 others.

'QAnon Shaman' celebrates pardon from President Trump: 'Justice has come'

President Trump issued pardons Monday to over 1,000 individuals charged in connection with January 6.

komonews.com