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I dunno.It astounds me that we still honor this horrible, horrible man with a holiday. He was a greedy, racist murderer. Why not commemorate someone or something worthwhile instead?
It astounds me that we still honor this horrible, horrible man with a holiday. He was a greedy, racist murderer. Why not commemorate someone or something worthwhile instead?
Most of our holidays that honor people, those people were racists, greedy, and murderers. Look at Lincoln and his war that caused over 600k dead that were civilians and soldiers alike. He hated non-whites and he was a lawyer for the railroads. His family got rich off of the transcontinental railroad.
Most of our holidays that honor people, those people were racists, greedy, and murderers. Look at Lincoln and his war that caused over 600k dead that were civilians and soldiers alike. He hated non-whites and he was a lawyer for the railroads. His family got rich off of the transcontinental railroad.
Most of our holidays that honor people, those people were racists, greedy, and murderers. Look at Lincoln and his war that caused over 600k dead that were civilians and soldiers alike. He hated non-whites and he was a lawyer for the railroads. His family got rich off of the transcontinental railroad.
do we even celebrate Lincoln's birthday anymore? I thought they turned that into MLK day.
funny story, back in the day (~20 years ago) Alabama state employees did not get memorial day off as a paid holiday...but they did get "confederate memorial day" off as a paid holiday. discovered that while my mother was working at the state employment office.
It astounds me that we still honor this horrible, horrible man with a holiday. He was a greedy, racist murderer. Why not commemorate someone or something worthwhile instead?
It astounds me that we still honor this horrible, horrible man with a holiday. He was a greedy, racist murderer. Why not commemorate someone or something worthwhile instead?
He hated non-whites? One of his good friends that he allowed into the White House for conversations was Frederick Douglass.....a non-white. Mary Todd's best friend was a black woman.
Why would you say he hated non-whites?
"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.
He hated non-whites? One of his good friends that he allowed into the White House for conversations was Frederick Douglass.....a non-white. Mary Todd's best friend was a black woman.
Why would you say he hated non-whites?
maybe this had something to do with it? although I would venture that perhaps "hate" is a bit strong.
sounds pretty damned racist to me.
And......putting the quote into historical context................
Many white people then believed that blacks were non-human....to be used as property and treated anyway the owner decided. Many white people knew slavery was wrong, but weren't exactly pro-blacks and white being buddy, buddy (this would be Lincoln). There were a few white people that were completely pro-integration.
By today's standards, anything but the last one would be totally unacceptable. Lincoln and the Republicans took the first step toward civil rights for all in the 1860s. Was he completely angelic in his thoughts? Of course not. Was he a good President? You betcha.
Columbus Day is probably more about giving the Italians a day to have a parade and get drunk than anything else.
Practice makes perfect! :beer:Meh the Irish do it better. At least in Boston they do.
Again, where is the evidence that Lincoln HATED non-whites. He believed that it was best for the races to be separate. How does that equal "hate" to you? He wanted slavery to end because it was evil. He thought treating human beings like the Southern plantation owners were was evil. I fail to see the "hate".
If he hated non-whites, he wouldn't have worked to free the slaves and start the ball rolling with civil rights.
Yep! Lets celebrate Captain Cook day instead
After all Cook discovered both Australia AND New Zealand whereas Columbus did not even really discover America.
It astounds me that we still honor this horrible, horrible man with a holiday. He was a greedy, racist murderer. Why not commemorate someone or something worthwhile instead?
If it weren't for greedy, racist sons of bitches, this country wouldn't exist. None of us Americans would exist.
Think about that next time you want to complain that we're glorifying bad men.
If it weren't for greedy, racist sons of bitches, this country wouldn't exist. None of us Americans would exist.
Think about that next time you want to complain that we're glorifying bad men.
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