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No, they just kill protestors they don't like.
No they just run over them with a car......
https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-white-nationalists-rally/index.html
Again, you are talking about just one guy killing one protester and applying it to everyone on the right?
How am I contradicting myself? I am saying that a President's words should only have influence over the specific area of his authority, i.e., the actions of the Executive Branch of government. And there they should stop, because as a human being, a President's words should have no more influence over your personal life than the words head of your local branch of the DMV over your personal life. Unless you are dealing directly with the DMV, who cares what he or she says or thinks?
Yes. Simply put, Donald Trump is a bad human being. That is not to discount the fact that I believe he sometimes makes good decisions in his office as the President. But he is still an intractably dishonest tub-thumper who cannot be trusted any further than he can be thrown.
If that is your position, alright. I certainly agree that murder as an instrument of terror is worse than vandalizing or attempting to break into one's home, and loudly shouting threats at one's family outside of one's home. But political terrorism is a gradient, not simply an act of killing. It takes multiple forms, from threats shouted on the streets, to mailing death threats or chemical substances, to physically accosting and assault, to mobs battering a person, to kidnapping, up to and including murder and mass murder. It all has the same purpose: to intimidate into silence or eliminate one's political opposition through the use of terror. It is all reprehensible, and those who engage in political terrorism must be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
Like who? Are you talking about one guy killing one person with a car and applying it to everyone?
Well, considering that 91% of this poll (32 people) declared that they do not support ANTIFA's protest at Carlson's home, your sly comment about how silent folks are appears politically angled and a little bit of nonsense.
The fact of the matter is that until ANTIFA members start sending bombs to Republican politicians or massacring Jews and blacks in their places of worship, most folks just aren't that concerned with ANTIFA's confrontation with the alt-Right or harassments towards right-wing pundits. This is just the nature of the beast. No doctor cares about your bruised shoulder as long as you have a gushing head wound. All ANTIFA is managing to do is offer conservatives a distraction to the extremism that displays itself quite openly at our President's rallies.
Calling this terrorism? Sure. But at least nobody mailed Carlson a bomb.
The home is sacred and off-limits; Antifa was absolutely in the wrong here. It's one thing to confront/protest people in public spaces, entirely another to do it at their house. What's especially bad is that the guy has kids; I can only imagine how scared they were.
A take on it I generally agree with:
https://youtu.be/J8Q6ekSJxnI?t=7
When Trump called fake news the "enemy of the people," perhaps he should have specified which fake news was the enemy of the people, or which actions were appropriate to take in order to combat the enemy of the people. He also, of course, should have said that people's homes were sacred and off limits. Unfortunately, he left it up to everybody's interpretation, which is why we are where we are.
You can protest any way you like, and others might choose another method. That's fine IMO.
As to this case, as I said I don't approve...
I fundamentally disagree if you mean "any difficulty" literally. "the right of the people peaceably to assemble" does not at all IMO mean, "the right of the people to peaceably assemble in a manner that imposes no inconvenience on anyone at all." I guess the way I'd look at is if there is no injustice or government wrongdoing for which you'd be unwilling to even block a sidewalk, or temporarily block a street, then you haven't identified any actually significant injustice or wrongdoing.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/08/media/tucker-carlson-protestors/index.html
(CNN)Police were called to the Washington, D.C. home of Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night when a group of protesters showed up and shouted threats.
Smash Racism D.C., which calls itself an "anti-fascist," or Antifa, group, claimed responsibility for the protest on social media. It has previously targeted Ted Cruz, Kirstjen Nielsen, and other right-wing figures.
In videos uploaded to Twitter by the group on Wednesday, participants were heard saying "Tucker Carlson, we will fight! We know where you sleep at night!" They called him a "racist scumbag" and hurled epithets.
The Twitter account also shared Carlson's address, which is a violation of Twitter's rules. By late Wednesday night, Twitter had suspended the group, which means the tweets and videos are now deleted.
In a statement on Thursday, the Metropolitan Police Department said it is conducting an investigation into the disturbance.
Who is the target audience? To "block" a thoroughfare, even temporarily, creates a situation where some may feel endangered which can easily escalate producing a violent reaction. If protesters block a road and one is seen by the driver approaching the vehicle with a bat or some other threatening object in hand, I would feel it to be a rational reaction to blow the horn and drive through the mob if they did not make way.
Free speech is much like consensual sex, no means no. There is no implied right to hold an audience captive, in which case any resulting action should be considered to be defensive and provoked.
No they just run over them with a car......
https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-white-nationalists-rally/index.html
We just do not agree on this. Do you think the civil rights marches didn't often block sidewalks or roads? Of course, and they were peaceful means to protest injustices in the South. They were great moments in U.S. history as well.
Your attempt to move the goal posts by introducing someone in the march threatening a bystander's life with a bat isn't persuasive. That's no longer a "peaceful" protest when bystanders are credibly threatened with bodily harm.
Again, "I guess the way I'd look at is if there is no injustice or government wrongdoing for which you'd be unwilling to even block a sidewalk, or temporarily block a street, then you haven't identified any actually significant injustice or wrongdoing."
Streets are NOT a good place to protest.
LOL Not with right wing thugs around no.
Tucker Carlson is a baiting racist.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/01/11/tucker-carlson-asks-why-the-outrage-on-trumps-shthole-comments/
Fox News host Tucker Carlson defended President Donald Trump’s Thursday comments about immigrants coming to America from “****hole” countries, and said the media’s visceral outrage over the story was preposterous.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/08/media/tucker-carlson-protestors/index.html
(CNN)Police were called to the Washington, D.C. home of Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night when a group of protesters showed up and shouted threats.
Smash Racism D.C., which calls itself an "anti-fascist," or Antifa, group, claimed responsibility for the protest on social media. It has previously targeted Ted Cruz, Kirstjen Nielsen, and other right-wing figures.
In videos uploaded to Twitter by the group on Wednesday, participants were heard saying "Tucker Carlson, we will fight! We know where you sleep at night!" They called him a "racist scumbag" and hurled epithets.
The Twitter account also shared Carlson's address, which is a violation of Twitter's rules. By late Wednesday night, Twitter had suspended the group, which means the tweets and videos are now deleted.
In a statement on Thursday, the Metropolitan Police Department said it is conducting an investigation into the disturbance.
I say no. I just hope the handful of people who voted yes realize that whatever the left does to the left the right will do right back at them.
There's a lot to unpack from your post. It implies that Trump isn't their President, or that only Republicans are allowed to take his words to heart, or that Trump's words are only allowed to be applied to all media except ultra right wing propaganda outlets.
But maybe Antifa concluded that, hey, fake news is the enemy of the people, and they acted accordingly.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/08/media/tucker-carlson-protestors/index.html
(CNN)Police were called to the Washington, D.C. home of Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night when a group of protesters showed up and shouted threats.
Smash Racism D.C., which calls itself an "anti-fascist," or Antifa, group, claimed responsibility for the protest on social media. It has previously targeted Ted Cruz, Kirstjen Nielsen, and other right-wing figures.
In videos uploaded to Twitter by the group on Wednesday, participants were heard saying "Tucker Carlson, we will fight! We know where you sleep at night!" They called him a "racist scumbag" and hurled epithets.
The Twitter account also shared Carlson's address, which is a violation of Twitter's rules. By late Wednesday night, Twitter had suspended the group, which means the tweets and videos are now deleted.
In a statement on Thursday, the Metropolitan Police Department said it is conducting an investigation into the disturbance.
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