frankguy
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Welcome to Debate Politics! :wcmfrankguy said:On July 14th, General Zhu Chenghu of PLA( People's Liberation Army) said to HongKong press that China would attack US if US was involved in the war between China and Taiwan. He said if US attacked China's territory with missiles or Laser guiding weapons, China would counterattack with nuclear weapons. And the territory includes PLA's battleships and airplanes. China has gotten ready that all the cities east of Xi'an are destroyied but US should has the anticipation that 100 to 200 of it's cities are destoried too.
What do you think about it?
frankguy said:How naive you are! I doubt if you know the Korea War? China could fight against all the world without lose. You exaggerated too much.
Wode zhongwen you shenma wenti? Mei guanqi.frankguy said:first, I do speak Mandrin. But your Mandrin is a little poor, I can't understand completely.
Wo dong ni.Soory. My English is terrible. I'll do my best.
Not at all what I said. I told the truth. Your Balistic Missle accuracy went from miles to yards after Clinton let Lorreal sell you the software and OS.Second, I knew what you mean. You just debase china and thought they has no ablility to possess nuke and other technology.
Maybe, only US deserves these techonlogies.
That's just silly.
We only been around so long and look what weve acomplished. You brag on one hand and then claim your only developing on the other. Don't sweat it dude. You can't win a Pis*sing contest here and that's not what I'm doing. Your nation has a miserable human rights record. What you do in Tibet is horrid. And when I say you I mean your government of old ass men. This is the USA. We know stuff.In the past two thousand yeas China has exported many technologies to other contries. How long has US?
Third, there are 340,000,000 Chinese people have cell phones. It's a great number. Dn't forget China is only a developing country. The number of PC is the seconder in the world.
teacher said:That is good. You guys just need to take the next step. We want to trade with you, not war. Instead of arming yourselves with your huge trade surplus we LET you have, it should go towards more beneficial things. Like leaving Taiwan alone. What does the great nation of China want with tiny Taiwan. The money they make perhaps? Well China had nothing to do with Taiwan getting to where they are today. So you need to leave them alone. Stop trying to scare and intimidate them with your military maneuvers. We will stand by Taiwan. You don't want a war with us. Like I said. Well just stop buying your stuff and you'll be in a world of hurt big time. Don't you see we are trying to bring your country up by trading with you? Everything ludahai said is true. The whole world knows it. Propaganda doesn't work over here like it does in your nation. Ni zhidao bu zhidao wode yisi? There is only two communist countries left in this world. You and Cuba. That system of government has failed. You guys need to go the rest of the way with the freedom thing. Like ludahai said. It's not the people, it's the leaders. Stay with this site, it's fun. Too bad you had to hook up with the biggest assho*le on this site right away. Me. I'd love to visit China one day. I speak alittle Chinese. I practice San Chuan Dao. And your girls are hot. Food is great. But frankguy, I got to be honest with you here. You make too big a deal out of the Pandas. We got bears too. Our bears can kick your bears asses. So onward. Please defend your deal with Tibet. And when are you gonna reel North Korea in? That guys friggin nuts. His own people are starving. Your country could do something about him. Why don't they? Anyway. Huanying. Zaijian.
1.In the 50's last century, China didn't trade with any contry. But we can defeat UN troops in Korea. How come you are so sure you will win the next war? It's enought.teacher said:You don't want a war with us. Like I said. Well just stop buying your stuff and you'll be in a world of hurt big time. Don't you see we are trying to bring your country up by trading with you? Everything ludahai said is true. The whole world knows it. Propaganda doesn't work over here like it does in your nation. Ni zhidao bu zhidao wode yisi? There is only two communist countries left in this world. You and Cuba. That system of government has failed. You guys need to go the rest of the way with the freedom thing. Like ludahai said. It's not the people, it's the leaders. Stay with this site, it's fun. Too bad you had to hook up with the biggest assho*le on this site right away. Me. I'd love to visit China one day. I speak alittle Chinese. I practice San Chuan Dao. And your girls are hot. Food is great. But frankguy, I got to be honest with you here. You make too big a deal out of the Pandas. We got bears too. Our bears can kick your bears asses. So onward. Please defend your deal with Tibet. And when are you gonna reel North Korea in? That guys friggin nuts. His own people are starving. Your country could do something about him. Why don't they? Anyway. Huanying. Zaijian.
cnredd said:Compliment, backhand, compliment, backhand, compliment...teach, you got this down to a science. :lol:
frankguy said:1.In the 50's last century, China didn't trade with any contry. But we can defeat UN troops in Korea. How come you are so sure you will win the next war? It's enought.
2. The Vietnam and North Korea are communist countries.
So late in the night. See you later.
You said it. But it's human who determines the war outcome not weapons.superskippy said:Now in terms of military people mistakenly assume China has a very powerful military, this is untrue. China possesses very obsolete technology for it's land armies, it consists of mostly 1950 era tanks upgraded with weapon kits we sold them. Infantry strength is filled with bloated divisions that are lightly trained and barely armed to US or UK standards. Sheer mass of men has lost much of it's luster as air power has come into play along with modern tanks and artillery. China would lose the bulk of it's 2.8 million man combat army in 7-8 months of prolonged combat against US forces. They simply don't have enough real combat effective troops. The aerial corps of China has 7 wings only 3 of which are classified as an effective threat, those are the 2 at Taiwan and the one aerial defense wing at Beijing. The navy runs on inefficient Soviet circa world war 2 diesel engines preventing any major upgrades or the ability to last in prolonged combat.
So China really has an impressive force on paper and can keep it's borders defended against border attacks but against a fully mobilized US army, it would lose much of it's luster and bulk in 7-8 months of combat.Now if anyone here wants a list of China's full military orbit I would be glad to show it to you. I can also give US orbit if you like.
Also of thier modern aircraft only 20 are a real threat, the SU-25, and US aircraft outclass it since the SU-25 lacks long range air-air missles to repel US aircraft.
frankguy said:On July 14th, General Zhu Chenghu of PLA( People's Liberation Army) said to HongKong press that China would attack US if US was involved in the war between China and Taiwan. He said if US attacked China's territory with missiles or Laser guiding weapons, China would counterattack with nuclear weapons. And the territory includes PLA's battleships and airplanes. China has gotten ready that all the cities east of Xi'an are destroyied but US should has the anticipation that 100 to 200 of it's cities are destoried too.
What do you think about it?
Red_Dave said:im surpirsed that no ones pointed out the sad fact that the cheap goods that come to america [as a result of complete lack of labour legislation in china] are doing wonders for the american economy. Therefore its unlikely america would start a war with them. Mind you ive heard theres plenty of oil in china....
Just ask Saddam. Next go around it will be, damn, they got another Predator. Call the supplier.frankguy said:You said it. But it's human who determines the war outcome not weapons.
1. The war US attacked Iraq is not a balance war. US has sanctioned Iraq for ten years. In this point, US is a bully. And you cannot compare Iraq and Afghanistan with China.teacher said:Just ask Saddam. Next go around it will be, damn, they got another Predator. Call the supplier.
teacher said:Dude, we are America, push comes to shove we can suck that up with ease. So we pay more for sneakers and plastic dolls. I get the feeling from non-Americans on this site that they don't know just how great our economy is. They're always saying were one step away from a full blown depression.Mei wenti. The name of my Dad's boat. California is the 5th largest economy in the entire friggin world, for Gods sake. And don't forget good old American ingenuity. I mean, how hard would it be to put an old box fan on your roof and wire it to a car alternator? Eh? If the shi*t ever does hit the fan, old teach is gonna have lights.
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