• Please read the Announcement concerning missing posts from 10/8/25-10/15/25.
  • This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Do Leftists Get Tired Of Being Strung Along By Their Media

JasperL said:
You guys don't either. It must be fun playing the victim for some reason. I don't get it.
Click to expand...

Wait, Republicans are the ones playing the victim????

Am I in the twilight zone?
 
Superfly said:
Did you even look at the promises he made, that he was unable to keep? Defunding Planned Parenthood? Barring all Muslims from entering the US? Repealing Obamacare? On what planet would anything like that pass, anyway?

You people keep whining about how the left has "tied his hands," when he's coming up with the most ridiculous, outlandish campaign promises ever seen in the history of a campaign.

Go look at his record. When he has normal ideas, they are usually voted in, or at least compromised on. But banning Muslims from coming here? Ending birthright citizenship? That's in the Constitution!!

Of COURSE his hands were tied. THEY SHOULD have been tied, and any half-way decent human being would have AGREED that his hands should have been tied.
Click to expand...

Mostly what's tying his hands is a little thing called the Constitution. Does anyone else remember when it was supposedly liberals who wanted to destroy it.
 
Jay59 said:
Not on this scale, no. They have attempted, are still attempting, to overturn the election. More than that, it started before he even took office. Why not? It worked in 1972-74.

The irony is that there was a real second Watergate. It is the story of the decade and they would not report on it because the wrong party was doing it.
Click to expand...

Ah, there it is. The victim card. The only thing Nixon was guilty of was being a Republican. Of course....
 
Debatable said:
Wait, Republicans are the ones playing the victim????

Am I in the twilight zone?
Click to expand...

Nope you are not. Trump played the victim card even before the election telling everyone the election was rigged, and then he won. To me the victim card is the draw to many from the GOP. The future is here every day and many on the right feel left behind, hence the victim card.
 
AProudLefty said:
Project Veritas. :lamo :lamo :lamo That's the best you can do?
Click to expand...
Laughing at evidence is not a persuasive approach. Laughing at video evidence even less so.

The irony here is that this is what WaPo and CNN should be doing. This actual journalism.
 
rocket88 said:
Ah, there it is. The victim card. The only thing Nixon was guilty of was being a Republican. Of course....
Click to expand...
Don't be silly. Nixon is not the point.

The point is that they would not even investigate Obama, because he was not Republican.

Here is another thing. It was obvious from Mueller's testimony that he was not capable of running the investigation. Every reporter in Washington had to know that, yet went along on the pretense. The double standard is glaring.
 
Debatable said:
Yes, it is a good one.
Click to expand...

It's fascinating that Trump takes credit for EVERYTHING he likes - jobs, economy, etc. but for NOTHING that he doesn't. It's always someone else's fault that he signed the big tax cut plan, and that he will sign this budget. Is he a guy with a pen, and a trained dog could do the job, or is he a leader of the Republican party? If he's a leader, where was he taking the GOP to task on the budget deal, or threatening to veto the $1.5 Trillion tax cuts bill if not offset with spending cuts? Where are the Trump proposals to cut entitlements?

Trump would rather play golf every weekend and Tweet. That other stuff takes hard work and he's just not interested.
 
Debatable said:
Wait, Republicans are the ones playing the victim????

Am I in the twilight zone?
Click to expand...

In case you didn't know, YouTube is kicking off conservatives, which is why that guy you linked to is....still on YouTube. Same on Twitter. Conservatives are getting purged except for the 100s of millions of them worldwide still on the platform! It's awful stuff.
 
Debatable said:
Did you see the multiple ones where the media put a story out, Trump retweets it and they then say he lied?
Click to expand...

It was a few anecdotes. I noticed he didn't bother cherry picking examples from Fox News or Breitbart or Townhall or Alex Jones. Wonder why that is?

The bottom line is what you linked to is the perfect example of how propaganda works. It's like those man on the street interviews. Take a n=100 or whatever, find an example to prove your point, extrapolate that to the population - this liberal is stupid, therefore, ALL liberals are just as stupid as this guy!! Q.E.D. In the case of news stories, take an n=100,000 or more, find 10 examples to prove your point, declare, therefore, based on this n=10 that the 100,000 is FAKE NEWS!!

It's just intellectual drivel.

Just for example, I have an acquaintance who is openly racist, and she supports Trump - loves him. Using the principle of your video, I can now conclude based on my sample of n=1 that ALL Trump supporters are also racist. Do you agree with that analysis? You shouldn't.
 
Jay59 said:
Not on this scale, no. They have attempted, are still attempting, to overturn the election. More than that, it started before he even took office. Why not? It worked in 1972-74.

The irony is that there was a real second Watergate. It is the story of the decade and they would not report on it because the wrong party was doing it.
Click to expand...

I guess you slept through or weren't alive during the Clinton years.

BTW, are you defending Nixon with that "it worked in 1972-1974" comment.
 
Jay59 said:
Don't be silly. Nixon is not the point.

The point is that they would not even investigate Obama, because he was not Republican.
Click to expand...

Who is "they" in the above? Why wouldn't the GOP House that had power from 2010-2016 do that if there was something serious to investigate and pin on Obama? They investigated Benghazi for years, had I think about 847 hearings on it.

Here is another thing. It was obvious from Mueller's testimony that he was not capable of running the investigation. Every reporter in Washington had to know that, yet went along on the pretense. The double standard is glaring.
Click to expand...

That's actually not obvious. It's kind of strange that right wingers want to say the investigation cleared Trump, but that it was incompetently run. I don't get how that works for Trump supporters.
 
Jay59 said:
Laughing at evidence is not a persuasive approach. Laughing at video evidence even less so.

The irony here is that this is what WaPo and CNN should be doing. This actual journalism.
Click to expand...

You realize that Project Vertias has been caught lying. Their videos are heavily edited. I suggest you look into that if you care about the truth.
 
Debatable said:
Apparently to you, undercover video showing exactly what these people think is laughable to you? They tell it like it is because they believe they aren't being watched, yet that's not good enough for you? Odd, because to me information from the horses mouth has always been what I felt was the best source. So what would be credible in your opinion?
Click to expand...

That Planned Parenthood video was all I needed to know.
 
Debatable said:
Well, that would be a decent question to ask. I would say though, that I have proven you wrong that all Muslim countries were banned, wouldn't you agree?
Click to expand...

You haven’t proven anything. I told you what your president said.

91E4F1FB-A838-462B-AB03-E12B822D05F3.webp
 
Superfly said:
Well at least you didn’t misuse the word “spin” again.

You ever gonna show me where I said that the Dems weren’t a mess?
Click to expand...
Superfly, you need to agree with me that Slaughter sucks. What's that, you don't? DEFLECTION! SNOWFLAKE! YOU CAN'T HANDLE DISAGREEMENT!
 
JasperL said:
I guess you slept through or weren't alive during the Clinton years. BTW, are you defending Nixon with that "it worked in 1972-1974" comment.
Click to expand...
Clinton was not a second Watergate because he was not spying on a Presidential candidate. Obama's administration did that.

Why defend Nixon? He didn't defend himself.
 
JasperL said:
Who is "they" in the above? Why wouldn't the GOP House that had power from 2010-2016 do that if there was something serious to investigate and pin on Obama? They investigated Benghazi for years, had I think about 847 hearings on it.

That's actually not obvious. It's kind of strange that right wingers want to say the investigation cleared Trump, but that it was incompetently run. I don't get how that works for Trump supporters.
Click to expand...
They are the Beltway media, anchored by the Washington Post. I am not sure why you bring up Benghazi. I would use it as an example that the DoJ under Obama would not indict prominent Democrats, regardless of the proof, but that does not fit here. Why do you bring it up?

Obvious is obvious. If you could not see that Mr Mueller was having difficulty making basic connections and following conversation, I cannot help. The video is conclusive. That man is no longer competent to run the investigation, or any investigation. It explains the constant rumors that he was just a figurehead, because the rumors were true. Is the rumor that Andrew Weissmann hired the rest of the team also true? Every single one, including Weissmann, is a Clintonista.
 
DamnYankee said:
Propaganda is a powerful tool. And if you have a propensity in believing it, then that power is magnified.

But, the question is...How many times do you have to be mislead until the propaganda becomes meaningless?
Click to expand...

Let me put it this way, ever since Nov 2016, Democrats and the left have been completely and totally demoralized by Trump's win. The only thing that gives their lives meaning is the hope that somehow, anyhow, they will find something on Trump that they can get him with. Turn over every rock on the planet. If that doesn't work then turn over every rock on the moon, mars, asteroids, whatever. Keep the hope alive because hope is all they have. If you take their hope away they've got nothing. Everyone needs a reason for living and this is all they have. So, they cling to every piece of hope the media will give them.
 
AProudLefty said:
You realize that Project Vertias has been caught lying. Their videos are heavily edited. I suggest you look into that if you care about the truth.
Click to expand...
You mean like CNN has been caught lying and using heavily edited videos? It is a concern but not a disqualifier.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom