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I don't know. And at the end of the day I don't think it will make much of a difference. Saying that Harry Reid and President Obama "hurt the Democrats" is like saying Mike Shanahan killed the Redskins and therefore firing him solves all ills. My prediction is that going forward Congress will be just as unproductive as it's always been the last eight or so years, and in 2015-2016 people will still be pissed but will still vote for the same people, or different people who do the same things.
At the end of the day it's the system that's the problem, not any individual or even any select group of individuals.
To add to the ever expanding list of threads about yesterday's elections, I was watching MSNBC last night (what can I say? It's fun watching Chris Matthews on a night like that) and one of the commentators said that Harry Reid's leadership in the Senate actually hurt Dems running for office by not even letting legislation he didn't like come to a vote, no Democrat could really show their independence from Obama and/or the Democrat party. I thought that made some sense.
Do you agree that Reid did more damage to his party than good.
Give me a sec to attach the poll.
I don't know. And at the end of the day I don't think it will make much of a difference. Saying that Harry Reid and President Obama "hurt the Democrats" is like saying Mike Shanahan killed the Redskins and therefore firing him solves all ills. My prediction is that going forward Congress will be just as unproductive as it's always been the last eight or so years, and in 2015-2016 people will still be pissed but will still vote for the same people, or different people who do the same things.
At the end of the day it's the system that's the problem, not any individual or even any select group of individuals.
I don't think so. I really doubt that moderate Democrats would win those elections by voting on specific legislation. It's not as if these elections were really about specifics. It was about demonizing the other party and mud slinging.
Which both sides do. What I find interesting is how often Republican voters and conservatives are told we cannot win unless we put up our more "moderate" or less conservative candidates, yet, even after last night, nobody really calls on Democrats to be more "moderate" or less liberal. That's not any kind of criticism, it's just something I noticed.
To add to the ever expanding list of threads about yesterday's elections, I was watching MSNBC last night (what can I say? It's fun watching Chris Matthews on a night like that) and one of the commentators said that Harry Reid's leadership in the Senate actually hurt Dems running for office by not even letting legislation he didn't like come to a vote, no Democrat could really show their independence from Obama and/or the Democrat party. I thought that made some sense.
Do you agree that Reid did more damage to his party than good.
Give me a sec to attach the poll.
Which both sides do.
What I find interesting is how often Republican voters and conservatives are told we cannot win unless we put up our more "moderate" or less conservative candidates, yet, even after last night, nobody really calls on Democrats to be more "moderate" or less liberal. That's not any kind of criticism, it's just something I noticed.
To add to the ever expanding list of threads about yesterday's elections, I was watching MSNBC last night (what can I say? It's fun watching Chris Matthews on a night like that) and one of the commentators said that Harry Reid's leadership in the Senate actually hurt Dems running for office by not even letting legislation he didn't like come to a vote, no Democrat could really show their independence from Obama and/or the Democrat party. I thought that made some sense.
Do you agree that Reid did more damage to his party than good.
Give me a sec to attach the poll.
I agree. I was just stating the obvious.
The majority of Dems defeated where the moderate Dems in purple and red states that typically took positions against the national party.
Also...there's really no need to tell Dems to moderate. When it comes to social issues most Dem positions are very popular.
When it comes to economic issues...how far different are Dems than Republicans?
I don't think the average voter gives a rats furry behind about Harry Reid unless they are a Fox addict or Limbaugh loonie.
I don't know. And at the end of the day I don't think it will make much of a difference. Saying that Harry Reid and President Obama "hurt the Democrats" is like saying Mike Shanahan killed the Redskins and therefore firing him solves all ills. My prediction is that going forward Congress will be just as unproductive as it's always been the last eight or so years, and in 2015-2016 people will still be pissed but will still vote for the same people, or different people who do the same things.
At the end of the day it's the system that's the problem, not any individual or even any select group of individuals.
I read that as voting for anyone with a ( D ) after their name was like voating for Obama.“The bottom line is though, these are all folks who vote with me; they have supported my agenda in Congress;"
“These are folks who are strong allies and supporters of me, and I tell them, I said, ‘You know what, you do what you need to do to win. I will be responsible for making sure our voters turn out.’ ”
The majority of Dems defeated where the moderate Dems in purple and red states that typically took positions against the national party.
Also...there's really no need to tell Dems to moderate. When it comes to social issues most Dem positions are very popular. When it comes to economic issues...how far different are Dems than Republicans?
I don't know. And at the end of the day I don't think it will make much of a difference. Saying that Harry Reid and President Obama "hurt the Democrats" is like saying Mike Shanahan killed the Redskins and therefore firing him solves all ills. My prediction is that going forward Congress will be just as unproductive as it's always been the last eight or so years, and in 2015-2016 people will still be pissed but will still vote for the same people, or different people who do the same things.
At the end of the day it's the system that's the problem, not any individual or even any select group of individuals.
I think Obama hurt the democrats with things like the following. (snip)
I read that as voting for anyone with a ( D ) after their name was like voating for Obama.
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