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Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppression’ allege

Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

Jill Stein seemed to have Russian buddies.

that seems to be going around, for sure.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

The Green Party itself is contesting the State's decision to throw it off the ballot.

Montana’s Republican secretary of state is not the Green Party.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

that seems to be going around, for sure.

Stein has been in the Green party for some time and had made previous bids for President before 2016. She wasn't some Russian plant or working with Russians.

Jesus.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

Here in Georgia if one hasn't voted in any one election in last six years, federal, state, local, school board, splosh, primary, general, runoff, probably more I forgot. At least 25-30 different elections take place here in a six year period, then if they haven't voted in any one of them, they're taken off the registration roster.

In other words, if one hasn't voted in six years, they're not going to vote, period. All it takes to stay registered is to vote just once every six years. Once will do nicely.

Georgia's problem is that the county voting registers aren't notified of anyone deaths or if they move to a new address, location or out of state. I personally think that law is a good one. Without it, it would be just a matter of time before the registration roster of a county would have more people registered to vote than live in the county.

This never remove anyone off the registration roster is a bunch of bunk. I think giving a person six years to vote before removal is valid and makes common sense. Vote just once in six years, you're still registered.

We’ve disagreed on this one before — a case of state’s wrongs versus state’s rights. Hundreds of thousands of citizens HAVE had their constitutional right to vote taken away in your state of GA, as well as Wisconsin with these voter purges. No one has the right to judge another.

Your system of a jungle primary and forced 2nd election for the last two years of a Senate seat is ONE of your abrogations of the 17th amendment, imho. Senate seats are federal. They should ALL be conducted in the same way. States can do whatever for their elections.

The other abrogation you have to the 17A, imho, is requiring 50% for the winner of federal elections. This guarantees the two parties you hate MAY have a runoff because of 3rd parties, EXCLUDING third parties. This is where many want RCV, such as with Maine Senate and ME-02.

Imagine if we had your rules for President in all states as well as the Senate and House. How long would that take. How many forced 2nd elections with only TWO Parties?

BTW, Trump has now destroyed TWO More foundations of our Nation with the USPS and our elections. Imagine the Farmers in Maine receiving 7,000 dead chicks late on purpose. How about GA?
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

Montana’s Republican secretary of state is not the Green Party.

But the national Green Party calls the petition “valid.”

“The Green Party wishes for the valid petition submitted in Montana to stand and for Green Party candidates, including presidential nominee Howie Hawkins ... to appear on the Montana ballot,” O'Neil said. “Candidate suppression is a form of voter suppression and, by that measure, Democratic Party leaders are as guilty as anyone of voter suppression in this century.”

Michael O'Neil is not "Montana's Republican secretary of state". He's the National Green Party communications manager.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

And this is for ballot access to Montana's ballot, which includes State seats.

The Green Party itself is contesting the State's decision to throw it off the ballot.

Its sad to see them work in cahoots with the GOP, who funded the petition drive. Its highly unethical.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

Its sad to see them work in cahoots with the GOP, who funded the petition drive. Its highly unethical.

Well maybe y'all shouldn't be working so hard to suppress 3rd party participation in the first place then.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

that seems to be going around, for sure.
Dzhill Stein had dinner with Putin and his Oligarchs Before the 2016 election. ‘Lock Her Up’ Mikhail Flynn was a special guest.

Imagine a country and indeed a world without the greens since the 2000 presidential.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

If they aren't real signatures, or were forged or otherwise placed there without the person's knowledge or consent, then yes. If the Republicans went around and asked people to sign a petition of Green Party Ballot Access, and they sign it willing, then not so much.

Isn't that what happened?
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

We’ve disagreed on this one before — a case of state’s wrongs versus state’s rights. Hundreds of thousands of citizens HAVE had their constitutional right to vote taken away in your state of GA, as well as Wisconsin with these voter purges. No one has the right to judge another.

Your system of a jungle primary and forced 2nd election for the last two years of a Senate seat is ONE of your abrogations of the 17th amendment, imho. Senate seats are federal. They should ALL be conducted in the same way. States can do whatever for their elections.

The other abrogation you have to the 17A, imho, is requiring 50% for the winner of federal elections. This guarantees the two parties you hate MAY have a runoff because of 3rd parties, EXCLUDING third parties. This is where many want RCV, such as with Maine Senate and ME-02.

Imagine if we had your rules for President in all states as well as the Senate and House. How long would that take. How many forced 2nd elections with only TWO Parties?

BTW, Trump has now destroyed TWO More foundations of our Nation with the USPS and our elections. Imagine the Farmers in Maine receiving 7,000 dead chicks late on purpose. How about GA?

I like jungle primaries and I like having the winner receive a majority of the votes. I dislike the idea of having a winner who more people voted against than for being declared the winner. I'm all for none of the above to appear on all ballots and if none of the above wins for any office, the election must be done again without any candidates that were on the first ballot or in the first election.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

Isn't that what happened?

What happened is that valid signatures were collected and turned in. They weren't forgeries or fakes.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppression’ alleged | Fox News



Same ****, "different" party. The Republocrats have long vied for control over who can and cannot be on a ballot to protect their Oligarchy from the will of the People. I don't vote Green, but I wish them luck in their upcoming court battle to get back on the ballot.
So the Dems do it and you find a way to criticize Republicans? :eek:
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

The Green Party's state senate candidate sounds like a real charming guy.

Gary Marbut says Americans would be a lot safer if everyone owned a gun. “The bad people would gradually be eliminated from the population by the multitude of good people who are armed,” he said days after a weekend of mass shootings left 31 dead and sent shock waves across the country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/montanas-gop-wants-to-make-it-impossible-for-local-governments-to-enact-gun-control/2019/08/14/9ffe4d5c-ba12-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html

Fresh on the heels of the news that Gary Marbut’s Montana Shooting Sports Association, an organization that makes the NRA look like the League of Women Voters, will be conducting “training” to encourage kids in grades 1-3 to acquire guns, he’s turned to threatening Montana school boards that he will unleash his organization to “replace every school board member in Montana.”

And Now Gary Marbut is Threatening Montana School Board Members – The Montana Post

Is this really what the Green Party is about? Obviously, they don't offer an alternative choice, they just offer another Republican choice.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

Stein has been in the Green party for some time and had made previous bids for President before 2016. She wasn't some Russian plant or working with Russians.

Jesus.

She certainly was wooed by Putin in 2016 and no doubt there was money involved. Her only value to him was as a spoiler.

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Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

What happened is that valid signatures were collected and turned in. They weren't forgeries or fakes.

They were collected under false pretenses and were disavowed by the signers for that. You really need to get a new cause, this one is a bust.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

They were collected under false pretenses and were disavowed by the signers for that. You really need to get a new cause, this one is a bust.

They weren't under false pretense, they were told it was for Green Party Ballot Access. And that's what they were for.

And enough were disavowed after constant badgering from the Democratic party to have them rescind their signature. They even went as far as sending a third-party notary to people's homes.

That's what happened.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

This is exactly why.

1. Campaign Finance Reform.

2. Proportional Representation.

Will fix many of Americans problems overnight.

But since both parties hold the cards, they won’t let it happen... Unless you stand united and raise hell until they do.

But many of you are too invested in Partisan Politics to do that.

I wish the Supreme Court would get this right, but they never do. They gave us Citizens United. It’s very disappointing that the Supreme Court constantly enables voter suppression
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

I wish the Supreme Court would get this right, but they never do. They gave us Citizens United. It’s very disappointing that the Supreme Court constantly enables voter suppression

Well at this point, they're mostly ideological Republocrats as well. The whole point is to rig a system against third party participation.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

They weren't under false pretense, they were told it was for Green Party Ballot Access. And that's what they were for.

And enough were disavowed after constant badgering from the Democratic party to have them rescind their signature. They even went as far as sending a third-party notary to people's homes.

That's what happened.

They behaved like any patriotic American would when they found out they were duped by Republicans who hate America. They called the traitors bluff and that makes you mad?
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

She certainly was wooed by Putin in 2016 and no doubt there was money involved. Her only value to him was as a spoiler.

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Well then Hillary should have ran a better campaign. Jill Stein tried for the Presidential ticket in 2012 as well. She was already established as a Green Candidate and one seeking the Presidential nomination.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

She certainly was wooed by Putin in 2016 and no doubt there was money involved. Her only value to him was as a spoiler.

russia_dinner630.jpg

Jill Stein was the Green Party’s nominee for president in the 2016 election. Stein regularly appeared on Russia’s state-run television network RT, including as counterprogramming to mainstream network coverage of important events such as the general-election debates and election night itself.

She also attended the RT Gala in December 2015, where she sat at the same table as Russian President Vladimir Putin and Michael Flynn, who would go on to become an adviser to the Trump campaign and ultimately Trump’s National Security Advisor. According to the Steele Dossier, the Kremlin funded Stein’s trip to Moscow, an assertion Stein denies. During her candidacy, Stein was notably critical of the Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, whose policy toward Syria Stein said would likely lead to nuclear war with Russia. Moreover, Stein espoused several foreign policy positions, including her criticism of NATO, suggestion that Russia’s claim to Crimea may be legitimate, and “whataboutism” on the subject of Russian human rights abuses that dovetail with Russian foreign policy goals.

Jill Stein - The Moscow Project

Two days before the 2016 presidential election, an Instagram account called @woke_blacks posted a message in support of long-shot Green Party candidate Jill Stein. “The excuse that a lost Black vote for Hillary is a Trump win is bs,” it read. “It could be late, but y’all might want to support Jill Stein instead.” According to a report commissioned by the Senate, the account was a fake, part of the Russian campaign to sway the 2016 presidential election in favor of Donald Trump.

The report was one of two that leaked this week saying the Russian effort to disrupt the election specifically targeted black voters and harnessed America’s top social media platforms. But the reports contained another finding that was largely overlooked — the Russians also focused on boosting Stein’s candidacy through social media posts like the one from @woke_blacks.

Russians launched pro-Jill Stein social media blitz to help Trump win election, reports say

The Green Party seems to have a good reputation in Europe. Here, it sounds like an appendage of Putin and the GOP.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

They behaved like any patriotic American would when they found out they were duped by Republicans who hate America. They called the traitors bluff and that makes you mad?

They were harassed into withdrawing their signatures by one of the Main Party branches because that branch didn't want competition.
 
Re: Dems get Green Party kicked off ballot after pressuring petition-signers; ‘voter suppressionâ€

Well at this point, they're mostly ideological Republocrats as well. The whole point is to rig a system against third party participation.

The whole point was to dilute the Democrat vote so a minority candidate (Trump) would have a better chance at winning. At least call it like it is. Jill Stein is nothing but a joke who is being manipulated into helping a candidate that stands for everything she claims to hate. You would think that would bother you that she is helping destroy any hope for a legitimate 3rd party taking root. I hope you are not one of those that say we deserve Trump like Nader claimed we deserved GW Bush. That is a dangerous and foolish attitude.
 
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The whole point was to dilute the Democrat vote so a minority candidate would have a better chance at winning. At least call it like it is.

Those votes aren't owed to the Democrats. If they can't run a candidate to capture those votes, then those are votes they didn't earn. I am calling it like it is, the Main Party once again stepping in to suppress 3rd party participation.
 
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