"Democrats, you do NOT want to nominate Joe Biden"

[vegas giants]

No response to Joe's plainly evident mental decline I see.

You mean Donald's

 

[RaleBulgarian]

But, the point is even if both bases turn out the Republicans are 100% unified behind a candidate they love. The left hates Biden with every fiber of their being. Not looking good.

I thought you said Republican support for Trump “is like 95%”?

And how did you come to believe that the left hates Biden “with every fiber of their being” ?? Biden isn’t everyone on the left’s dream ticket, but he’s far from hated.

What We Know About The Voters Who Swung Super Tuesday For Biden | FiveThirtyEight

Whatever your sources are, you really ought to dump them because they don’t know wtf they’re talking about.

Older voters were misinformed by election strategy. It took all the candidates dropping and endorsing him for him to even have a chance. If Bernie had countered the string of endorsements with a Warren endorsement, Tulsi, etc you could see a different race today. It's basically flimsy support based on being told who to vote for by elected officials and the media. Before then Biden was placing 4th and 5th.

:lamo You really are lost, Winston.

Do you really believe that all the other Dem candidates just dropped out because they didn’t want to win?? They dropped out of the race because they were losing, and they are supporting Biden because they believe he is the best hope for the Dems in November.

News flash - Most people don’t even know who Tulsi Gabbard is, and Warren came in 3rd in her own home state (how pathetic is that?). You’re truly lying to yourself if you believe their endorsements would save Sanders.

No it's a fact the Dems suck ass at politics. Their attempts to take down Trump are pathetic moralizing and grand standing that the American people don't care about. Biden will be no different. Return to normalcy like all the good times when we sold out the industrial Midwest and fought an illegal war.

You sure you’re not a closet Trumpster? You sure do sound like one. I bet you hoped for Trump not to be removed from office, didn’t you?

Your resentment of the majority who believe Sanders is the wrong man to replace Trump has overridden your rational abilities to see what’s really happening. Sad.

 

[apdst]

Youre lying.


See how easy this is

Joe Biden Second Amendment Outburst a Warning Sign | National Review

 

[vegas giants]

Joe Biden Second Amendment Outburst a Warning Sign | National Review

Donald Trump on protester: 'I'd like to punch him in the face' - CNNPolitics

 

[Craig234]

What policies are you for? Exactly? If it's not easy to answer such a straightforward question, perhaps you may want to focus a bit.

I don't see a reason to discuss a lot of issues, what's the point? As I've posted hundreds of times, I think plutocracy is the biggest issue facing the US. I'd like to reduce inequality. Then we can improve democracy, pursue single-payer universal healthcare, and so on.

True. Sorry. But as I mentioned above, when you won't say what you want, I'm left to assume. So help me out. What are you for? And just as importantly, how do you achieve it?

The key step is to return to the tax balance of the JFK tax cut era, including the national income being more evenly distributed. The rest comes from that. Once the people get to have government that represents them, a lot of better policies follow instead of this race to plutocracy and massive debt and starve the beast that will cause great poverty.

How is expanding health insurance to over 20 million people going in the WRONG direction?

Obviously not every detail is in the wrong direction. The ACA was a great step in the right direction, not nearly enough but what was possible then. The larger picture continued to have increasing plutocracy under Obama. You might remember over a thousand statehouse seats were switched to Republican under Obama?

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Biden doesn't want to expand health care? Really?

He's saying he wants small improvements he may or may not actually pursue, but he's actively opposed to ending our twice as expensive as anywhere else system, or to eliminating tens of millions without the insurance they need. And the ACA is still way too expensive.

 

[Craig234]

Biden's progressive and unlike Trump's assessment he is not asleep. He was head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for 15+ years. He understands foreign policy and relations. If nothing else he will stop the selling out to anti-American countries and resume intelligent dialogues with allies.

Where was he on the Iraq war? On Hillary's coup in Honduras? On Hillary's chaos in Libya? On the attempted coup in Venezuela? Hint: wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Very experienced. That's not enough. Of course he'll at least largely be an improvement over trump.

 

[Winston]

"Democrats, you do NOT want to nominate Joe Biden"

I thought you said Republican support for Trump “is like 95%”?

And how did you come to believe that the left hates Biden “with every fiber of their being” ?? Biden isn’t everyone on the left’s dream ticket, but he’s far from hated.

Trump does that's the point. The GOP base will be firing on all cylinders.

And Biden is hated because he supports failed and discredited neoliberal orthodoxy

What We Know About The Voters Who Swung Super Tuesday For Biden | FiveThirtyEight

Whatever your sources are, you really ought to dump them because they don’t know wtf they’re talking about.

Dunno if you know this but a general election is not just a poll of Democrats.


:lamo You really are lost, Winston.

Do you really believe that all the other Dem candidates just dropped out because they didn’t want to win?? They dropped out of the race because they were losing, and they are supporting Biden because they believe he is the best hope for the Dems in November.

They dropped to stop Bernie. Dems fight Progressives with more vigor than conservatives.

News flash - Most people don’t even know who Tulsi Gabbard is, and Warren came in 3rd in her own home state (how pathetic is that?). You’re truly lying to yourself if you believe their endorsements would save Sanders.

Doesn't matter it blunts to media narrative the party is coalescing.

You sure you’re not a closet Trumpster? You sure do sound like one. I bet you hoped for Trump not to be removed from office, didn’t you?

Your resentment of the majority who believe Sanders is the wrong man to replace Trump has overridden your rational abilities to see what’s really happening. Sad.

You were wrong in 2016 and you're wrong in 2020


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[Fletch]

i think there's a good chance that Bernie's supporters go home and don't vote. which is why Republicans/Trump/Rush/Sean MUST keep them pissed off and at Biden's throat (even while democratic VOTERS, not establishment, VOTERS VOTE for someone other than Bernie).

and the weird part is Bernie's voters have the most to lose (since they're mostly younger). Trump judges and Trump legislation and the trashed environment and selling off the commons and a Republican Supreme Court for most of their lives.

it honestly makes zero sense. heck, it's almost like when we make fun of Republican voters for voting against their best interests.

Thats because you assume to know what the interests of people other than yourself are. Not everyone is a drone who lives in your hive.

 

[smallvoice]

No, it goes like this...

Clinton left Bush with a good economy in 2000

Bush left Obama with a bad economy in 2008

Obama left Trump with a good economy in 2016

Trump will leave Biden with a bad economy in 2020...​

A good economy doesn't need interest rate cuts...and yet, Trump forced the Federal Reserve to lower interest rate three times since he took office... leaving the Feds with no tools in their box to fix the economy during a recession. Now that the economy is tanking...the best the Feds can do now is print more money which will cause inflation.

Wages are still stagnant and millions are still working two jobs to make ends meet. Trump has done nothing for the middle class except divide it.

The national debt has skyrocketed under Trump and now he wants to cut Medicare, Medicaid and SS to pay it down. So let him run on that and see what happens.

Obama's entire administration sucked, and the economy did too. When Trump took over, there was no business, STAGNANT.So no, you are wrong.

 

[smallvoice]

Markets are crashing and the trump recession has begun

Only in your dreams....

 

[CaughtInThe]

No response to Joe's plainly evident mental decline I see.

are you a Christian?

 

[Fletch]

Donald Trump on protester: 'I'd like to punch him in the face' - CNNPolitics

But you criticized Trump for doing that and youre silent on Biden. How very tribal of you.

 

[iguanaman]

I dont believe Biden will pave the way for the reform bernie supporters want, in fact he said he would definitely veto them. Im not bernie or busting but lets be honest here. I dont think returning to something needs to even be the core message. We are in such deep **** that returning to sanity without significant reforms and gutting executive branch power is only going to compound the problem with the executive branch.

You have no evidence that Biden would "veto" anything the Democrats pass. What is certain is that if Trump remains in office any hope of these reforms would be gone for a generation. It's time for the bickering to end and to get down to the business of defeating Trumpism. It seemed in 2016 that some felt electing Trump over Hillary would make Bernie more attractive in 2020. I'm afraid the opposite is true. He is doing worse against Biden than Hillary and he would definitely lose to Trump.

 

[vegas giants]

Only in your dreams....

Uh...no. check the market. Lol

 

[vegas giants]

But you criticized Trump for doing that and youre silent on Biden. How very tribal of you.

So are you willing to speak out against trump for this?


Speak up....I cant hear you. Lol

 

[Moderate Right]

Another conservative who doesn't understand the term "socialist." Lots of them out there...

Bernie said himself he is a socialist and wants a revolution. Are you saying he's lying?

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Trump does that's the point. The GOP base will be firing on all cylinders.
And Biden is hated because he supports failed and discredited neoliberal orthodoxy.

Repeating false claims doesn’t make them any less false.

Dunno if you know this but a general election is not just a poll of Democrats.

Based on your comments to this point in our conversation, there is much you don’t know, but are happy to cover by asserting unsupported opinions as facts.

They dropped to stop Bernie.

Yep, they all had a secret meeting at an undisclosed deep state hideout and agreed to give up their own ambitions just to beat Bernie. :screwy

Doesn't matter it blunts to media narrative the party is coalescing.

The support of a politician most don’t even know exists and a third place finisher in her own home state isn’t worth squat. Get real.

You were wrong in 2016 and you're wrong in 2020

I didn’t join this forum until October ‘18. You didn’t know me in ‘16, and you don’t know me now.

 

[lurchadams]

What has that got to do with Biden's plainly evident creeping dementia?

Nothing to do with your post which was <:lamo :lamo :lamo>

Picking on Biden for allegedly calling someone a name once.. something your clown-faced idol does every day - and I wouldn't be pointing my fingers at anyone else's candidate about mental fitness when tweetybird should have been locked up years ago - for our safety and his!

 

[jpn]

Re: &quot;Democrats, you do NOT want to nominate Joe Biden&quot;

And Biden is hated because he supports failed and discredited neoliberal orthodoxy

Biden is hated by you and a small number of Sanders zealots. Either that or Sanders' legions of supporters forgot to, you know, vote.

Biden is popular enough among the rest of the Democrats to increase turnout tremendously. 52% increase from 2016 in Michigan yesterday? Wow. He's way more popular than Hillary.

 

[jpn]

Obviously not every detail is in the wrong direction. The ACA was a great step in the right direction, not nearly enough but what was possible then. The larger picture continued to have increasing plutocracy under Obama. You might remember over a thousand statehouse seats were switched to Republican under Obama?

Believe me, I'll never forget it. The logic of your argument seems to be that the 2010 Republican landslide was due to "increasing plutocracy under Obama." That is not a theory widely shared. Most would say it was a reaction against Obama raising taxes on the rich to pay for a large part of the ACA. The "TEA" in TEA Party stands for "taxed enough already." Although the tax was on the richest 1 percent, the GOP aristocracy has never had difficulty in mobilizing the blue collar crowd to fight their battles for them.

He's saying he wants small improvements he may or may not actually pursue, but he's actively opposed to ending our twice as expensive as anywhere else system, or to eliminating tens of millions without the insurance they need. And the ACA is still way too expensive.

I agree the ACA is too expensive for many. The subsidies need to be expanded. I have not seen Biden say he's opposed to expanded coverage. From his website:

AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
I. GIVE EVERY AMERICAN ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH INSURANCE

From the time right before the Affordable Care Act’s key coverage-related policies went into effect to the last full year of the Obama-Biden Administration, 2016, the number of Americans lacking health insurance fell from 44 million to 27 million – an almost 40% drop. But President Trump’s persistent efforts to sabotage Obamacare through executive action, after failing in his efforts to repeal it through Congress, have started to reverse this progress. Since 2016, the number of uninsured Americans has increased by roughly 1.4 million.

As president, Biden will stop this reversal of the progress made by Obamacare. And he won’t stop there. He’ll also build on the Affordable Care Act with a plan to insure more than an estimated 97% of Americans. Here’s how: [go to his page and read it]​

 

[veritas1]

are you a Christian?

That's a really stupid question but not surprising. I guess you think that being a Christian obligates you to put a mentally deteriorating 77 year old guy in the world's toughest job. What a hoot.

 

[jpn]

That's a really stupid question but not surprising. I guess you think that being a Christian obligates you to put a mentally deteriorating 77 year old guy in the world's toughest job. What a hoot.

Instead of debating why Republicans don't care if people don't have health insurance, they will rely on smearing Biden's mental health. Good luck with that. Meanwhile, we'll keep reminding people of things like Trump can't even be trusted to run a charity without supervision. Because he was caught stealing from it.

 

[veritas1]

Nothing to do with your post which was <:lamo :lamo :lamo>

Picking on Biden for allegedly calling someone a name once.. something your clown-faced idol does every day - and I wouldn't be pointing my fingers at anyone else's candidate about mental fitness when tweetybird should have been locked up years ago - for our safety and his!

Biden is clearly losing it. He tells a voter he's not taking away guns a few days after telling that moron Beto that he'll head up the gun grabbing effort. He told Anderson Cooper he'd confiscate guns, too. Then he calls the voter names because he's challenged on his own statements. He's got a memory span of about 30 minutes, if that.

 

[veritas1]

Instead of debating why Republicans don't care if people don't have health insurance, they will rely on smearing Biden's mental health. Good luck with that. Meanwhile, we'll keep reminding people of things like Trump can't even be trusted to run a charity without supervision. Because he was caught stealing from it.

Obamacare left 30 million uninsured. You guys didn't seem to give a tinker's damn about that. Oh, and nobody is smearing Biden. We're pointing out what is painfully obvious to everyone except psychotic Trump haters. I'm sure those honest Clintons have never misused their foundation, either.:lol: Funny how donations are off 50% since Hill doesn't have an office to sell anymore.

 

[danielpalos]

Bernie said himself he is a socialist and wants a revolution. Are you saying he's lying?

an evolution will do in moden secular and temporal times.