Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting [W:977, 1014]

[Slingshot Bob]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

Not a supporter of Antifa...Not a supporter of Gun Nut creeps either

So how do you feel about liberals pushing the gun agenda before the bodies are cold?

 

[apdst]

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Do you understand that it's not likely he'd even know you were doing so unless you actually hit his window or him?

Not to mention...he could just switch to the other window.

All you would have to do is get close. Interrupt his fire.

 

[Saladin4]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

So how do you feel about liberals pushing the gun agenda before the bodies are cold?

Liberals?...Seems lots of Americans want a ban or at least more regulations on Military Assault weapons......Seems NRA gun nuts only hear TOTAL ban on all weapons...The Government is coming to get me the end is near!...The usual hysterical non sense

 

[JasperL]

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Silencers don't silence. Why would you oppose this law?

It's a bit of a weird argument here on silencers. Essentially, the argument is they don't work so why care? But if they don't work, why does anyone want one? From what I've read with subsonic rounds they CAN work very well - not like the movies, but depending on the load very significantly reduce sound. And if they didn't serve a real purpose, why would professional killers in the military put up with the impaired accuracy?

 

[apdst]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

If you want to kill innocents looking out their windows in the hotel, 'returning fire' from 300-400 yards, 32 floors up, is an excellent plan.

If people didn't know you were almost surely trolling us here, you'd be a walking advertisement for FAR stricter gun control laws, especially laws concerning carrying guns in public. Gun control advocates could just line up about a dozen like you for Congressional testimony and you'd do a better job selling gun control than the best the Brady Foundation could deliver.

"Congressmen THIS is the kind of person who we allow to carry guns! Something must be done!!" :shock: :lamo

Again, we know you would do nothing. Do us a favor: when those of us are willing to act do so, please stay out of our way.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

All you would have to do is get close. Interrupt his fire.

To the 32nd floor windows? That he can move between? So you'd be shooting almost straight up (you said closer, right?)...but into a window? And not accidentally hitting any other windows? :doh

You have got to be trolling.

 

[ataraxia]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

So how do you feel about liberals pushing the gun agenda before the bodies are cold?

Great, thank you. Enough is enough. I am sure the victims would have appreciated it.

 

[Zyphlin]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

If someone offers up or suggests legislation that legitimately would've had an impact on the shooting and the dead bodies that they're exploiting as a political cudgel, then I can at least reasonably understand engaging in a dialog about such a thing with them following such an event.

HOWEVER....

When someone offers up a meaningless empty platitude like the notion we "need more gun regulation", or begins to push once more for some action that is wholly unrelated or would have had little to no impact on the event that they are leveraging, then such people are worthy of nothing but condemnation and scorn as opposed to dialog, because for them it is simply the naked and unapologetic raping of the dead for an agenda they have been and would be thumping regardless of it's connection to the event.

 

[Saladin4]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

Great, thank you. Enough is enough. I am sure the victims would have appreciated it.

Muslim countries around the world are plagued with fanatics that interrupt the Koran to justify their crazed terrorist acts...Here in America we are plagued by Gun Nut fanatics that interrupt the Constitution to justify their crazed acts

 

[ludin]

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To the 32nd floor windows? That he can move between? So you'd be shooting almost straight up (you said closer, right?)...but into a window? And not accidentally hitting any other windows? :doh

You have got to be trolling.

it could be done but it would take a skilled sniper and a person that is trained in that sort of thing to do it.
you would need a bigger bullet and a larger round to make the distance. maybe the 7.62. most US shoot 5.53.
or the 223. almost the same bullet.

 

[ludin]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

Muslim countries around the world are plagued with fanatics that interrupt the Koran to justify their crazed terrorist acts...Here in America we are plagued by Gun Nut fanatics that interrupt the Constitution to justify their crazed acts

you need to read the constitution again.

 

[Saladin4]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

you need to read the constitution again.

I have many times....Especially the "well Regulated" part

 

[ludin]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

If someone offers up or suggests legislation that legitimately would've had an impact on the shooting and the dead bodies that they're exploiting as a political cudgel, then I can at least reasonably understand engaging in a dialog about such a thing with them following such an event.

HOWEVER....

When someone offers up a meaningless empty platitude like the notion we "need more gun regulation", or begins to push once more for some action that is wholly unrelated or would have had little to no impact on the event that they are leveraging, then such people are worthy of nothing but condemnation and scorn as opposed to dialog, because for them it is simply the naked and unapologetic raping of the dead for an agenda they have been and would be thumping regardless of it's connection to the event.

that is the problem we have asked time and time again what could be done and they usually respond with nothing.

The fact is for this guy all laws were followed. background checks etc ....
he passed everything from the federal government. all the purchases complied with state and federal laws on the books.

the store owner where the guns were purchased as all the records of the sales.

 

[Saladin4]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

that is the problem we have asked time and time again what could be done and they usually respond with nothing.

The fact is for this guy all laws were followed. background checks etc ....
he passed everything from the federal government. all the purchases complied with state and federal laws on the books.

the store owner where the guns were purchased as all the records of the sales.

Laws?.....The Laws or the lack there of are a joke......No citizen needs Military style weapons period in a civilized society...PERIOD

 

[apdst]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

To the 32nd floor windows? That he can move between? So you'd be shooting almost straight up (you said closer, right?)...but into a window? And not accidentally hitting any other windows? :doh

You have got to be trolling.

You know nothing about firearms, nor how to use them.

Thst fact that you think the counter-fire would be directrd straight up tells me you're just pulling stuff out of the air and posting it.

 

[Nilly]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

What laws do you suggest that wont punish the law-abiding gun owners and will actually affect criminals, people with intent to do harm or other crimes?

Do you think that speed limits punish law abiding motorists?

 

[Zyphlin]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

No citizen needs Military style weapons period in a civilized society.

What defines or constitutes a "military style weapon" to you?

 

[ludin]

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I have many times....Especially the "well Regulated" part

*sigh* this busted argument again.

The Second Amendment: The Framers' Intentions

Thus, the well regulated militia necessary to the security of a free state was a militia that might someday fight against a standing army raised and supported by a tyrannical national government. Obviously, for that reason, the Framers did not say "A Militia well regulated by the Congress, being necessary to the security of a free State" -- because a militia so regulated might not be separate enough from, or free enough from, the national government, in the sense of both physical and operational control, to preserve the "security of a free State."

In keeping with the intent and purpose of the Bill of Rights both of declaring individual rights and proscribing the powers of the national government, the use and meaning of the term "Militia" in the Second Amendment, which needs to be "well regulated," helps explain what "well regulated" meant. When the Constitution was ratified, the Framers unanimously believed that the "militia" included all of the people capable of bearing arms.

Furthermore, returning to the text of the Second Amendment itself, the right to keep and bear arms is expressly retained by "the people," not the states.

so now you can stop using this busted argument that every other person uses and gets it busted on as well.

 

[Nap]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

I have many times....Especially the "well Regulated" part

The meaning behind the phrase "well regulated" has changed over time and the modern interpretation is different from the intent at the time the constitution was written.

 

[Saladin4]

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What defines or constitutes a "military style weapon" to you?

Well I sure wouldn't let the NRA gun nuts define what it is...Worldwide in "civilized" nations the authorities have a pretty good handle on this is......However in America it appears the Gun Lobby is deciding , hence the rash of mass shootings with "Military" style weapons...

 

[Lursa]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

Do you think that speed limits punish law abiding motorists?

No, because it doesnt take anything away from them in terms of their personal safety or ability to protect their home or family.

It may take away the convenience of some time savings. I see a difference between safety (and basic Constitutional rights) and convenience. And if someone has an emergency, they will speed anyway and know that likely they wont get a ticket if they get caught.

 

[ludin]

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Laws?.....The Laws or the lack there of are a joke......No citizen needs Military style weapons period in a civilized society...PERIOD

that is your opinion. not a fact. the laws on the books were followed.

both state and federal laws it is not just a one sided coin.

i have owned plenty of guns. my father in law is a gun collector.
the only things that get shot are targets at a shooting range.

i bet that upsets you. too bad.

yes laws those pesky things you keep whining about.

 

[Lursa]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

You know nothing about firearms, nor how to use them.

Thst fact that you think the counter-fire would be directrd straight up tells me you're just pulling stuff out of the air and posting it.

I tried to clarify that for you, without going into detail. I even put it in parentheses. Seems 'detail' was necessary.

And your record for being wrong continues...re: my knowledge of firearms and how to use them in self-defensive situations. I'm not particularly interested in guns, but I've made sure I understand what I need to know for SD.

Troll on...you are looking pretty silly.

 

[Saladin4]

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The meaning behind the phrase "well regulated" has changed over time and the modern interpretation is different from the intent at the time the constitution was written.

Yet you "interrupt" the constitution...As anybody should be allowed any weapon at any time to fight the government...That about right?...I'm guessing the founding fathers use of "well regulated" is pretty close to what it means today

 

[ludin]

Re: Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting

Do you think that speed limits punish law abiding motorists?

*sigh* driving is a privilege not a right please get it straight and don't use this fallacy.