Democrats defend naming Muslim to House Intelligence panel.....

[Unitedwestand13]

Where the **** did I even mention terrorist?

You know why Obama and the Doodlecrats are losing? None of yoo0u will ever deal with the issue straight on.

Please don't reply to my posts anymore. Clearly you do not understand the issues beyond pointing fingers at others.

What exactly is your objection to the person the democrats have selected to sit on the house intelligence Commitee panel? The fact he is a Muslim?

 

[eohrnberger]

In that case humanity has to abandon its warmongering tendencies and unite in pursuit of space colony.

True, and agreed. And that would include the militant Islamic fundamentalists? I think it's gonna be hard to sell that to them.

 

[eohrnberger]

. . . .
What insights into the mind of the Ku Klux Klan do you have that the rest of us don't simply by virtue of sharing a religion with them?
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Surely you're not saying that someone more familiar with the religion of a group doesn't have better insights into that group, especially when that group is essentially a theocracy, are you?

 

[Unitedwestand13]

True, and agreed. And that would include the militant Islamic fundamentalists? I think it's gonna be hard to sell that to them.

Appeal to their pride. Would the building of a space colony offend the Islamic fundamentalist's interpration of their religion?

 

[eohrnberger]

Appeal to their pride. Would the building of a space colony offend the Islamic fundamentalist's interpration of their religion?

How much aligned to STEM are they? Last I thought, they'd gladly return to the time of 1,500 years ago tending their goat flocks.

 

[ThePlayDrive]

Again, what are his credentials that qualify him for this post?

He has been hired to do a particular job that requires a particular background and a particular mind set.

Does he have the needed credentials? You tell me.

I'm not sure if you noticed, but this thread is about how people attacked his appointment because he is Muslim.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

How much aligned to STEM are they? Last I thought, they'd gladly return to the time of 1,500 years ago tending their goat flocks.

If that were true they are hypocrites for using guns and social media.

 

[eohrnberger]

If that were true they are hypocrites for using guns and social media.

True. But it's without dispute that they are violent, aggressive, and want to kill people who don't believe as they do.
It's also true they want to impose Sharia Law and universal adoption of Islam across the globe.
Very much antithetical to Western concepts of free choice, separation of church and state, and what we'd term as a reasonable system of laws and punishment.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

True. But it's without dispute that they are violent, aggressive, and want to kill people who don't believe as they do.
It's also true they want to impose Sharia Law and universal adoption of Islam across the globe.
Very much antithetical to Western concepts of free choice, separation of church and state, and what we'd term as a reasonable system of laws and punishment.

I can imagine that prior to 9/11 you did not have a clue about Islam.

These terrorists are just zealots who take their religion to the extreme, and now that have guns and explosives have become drunk on power.

 

[eohrnberger]

I can imagine that prior to 9/11 you did not have a clue about Islam.

These terrorists are just zealots who take their religion to the extreme, and now that have guns and explosives have become drunk on power.

And you'd adopt a policy of sitting back, appeasing them, and letting them continue to kill people, including innocent civilians in the West. Got it.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

And you'd adopt a policy of sitting back, appeasing them, and letting them continue to kill people, including innocent civilians in the West. Got it.

Most people are sick of war right now.

It will take another 9/11 to generate the the willpower needed to make this a battle to the death.

Tell me, how is trying to target the extremists without denigrating average Muslims a form of apeasement?

 

[TheDemSocialist]

The sad thing is, that the Democrats had to defend this.... The sad thing is people attacked a man getting appointed to a committee because of his religion.

 

[eohrnberger]

Most people are sick of war right now.

It will take another 9/11 to generate the the willpower needed to make this a battle to the death.

Yeah, I can agree with that. We've pretty much condemned ourselves to another 9/11 before we wake up again.

Tell me, how is trying to target the extremists without denigrating average Muslims a form of apeasement?

We aren't doing it very well. Radicals are still preaching in Mosques, radicalizing their flock to terrorist activities, as we have most recently seen in Paris, and likely soon to be elsewhere, which we've also seen.

We are handling this as a criminal matter as we did prior to 9/11, and it's going to take another 9/11 to wake us up.

Appeasement? How about all the equipment and territory recently falling into ISIS's hands, as we stood by and just watched? What about all the known radicals we've freed from Gitmo? All these things do is embolden the Militant Islamic Fundamentalists to become even more aggressive and launching even more terrorist attacks against the West.

 

[blarg]

Top Democrats are defending their appointment of a Muslim congressman to the House Intelligence Committee after protests erupted on social media, warning the move is dangerous. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi this week appointed Rep. Andre Carson of Indiana to the panel, which oversees the government's intelligence departments and activities. Much of the business that comes before the committee is classified.

Anti-Muslim protests erupted on Twitter and other social media with complaints that exposing American secrets to Carson could be dangerous.....snip~

Democrats defend naming Muslim to House Intelligence panel


Well now.....here is the thing about this. Who was it that knew first that Pelosi was going to do this? Uh huh.....other Democrats. Then Twitter began to fill up and then on Social Media. Yet who tunes into Pelosi and company? After hitting Social Media.....then it really took off. Yet up until that time. A lot of the Negativity was coming from the left. Considering they were the first to know. What say ye?

um whys a congressman a danger to national security?

 

[StillBallin75]

Any absolute is hard to defend.

The issue isn't whether all or most Muslims are terrorists.

The issue is whether most terrorists are Muslim. It seems pretty obvious that the best ones seem to be. A League of their own.

Whether or not most terrorists are Muslim is a debatable topic for another day - needless to say, it should have no bearing on Rep. Carson's qualifications for the position.

 

[eohrnberger]

um whys a congressman a danger to national security?

Isn't.

Whether or not most terrorists are Muslim is a debatable topic for another day - needless to say, it should have no bearing on Rep. Carson's qualifications for the position.

Agreed.

 

[Paschendale]

NO. If you can't debate without putting words in another's mouth and creating straw men, don't debate.

I asked a question. Which you answered, though in an incomplete manner. Please then explain why you feel having a regular, non-extremist and non-militant American Muslim on an intelligence committee is comparable to having a fundamentalist Christian (who I will presume is non-violent and an American, though you don't specify) on a committee relating to laws about sex.

Surely you're not saying that someone more familiar with the religion of a group doesn't have better insights into that group, especially when that group is essentially a theocracy, are you?

Despite being ethnically Jewish, I have no insight whatsoever into Jews who either actually believe in a god nor who view sexuality as something to be fearful or ashamed about. According to your suggestion, I should have this insight. I assume that you are a Christian. Do you have special insight into the mind of the KKK, who are very fervent in their Christianity? If your answer is no (which I suspect it is), then I suggest that merely being a Muslim in a secular country like the United States would likewise provide someone with no special insight into violent religious extremists like ISIS or Al Qaeda. I would imagine that the KKK and ISIS have far more in common with one another than you or I or Representative Carson have with either of them. If you want insight into a Jihadist, go ask the KKK or the "god hates fags" crowd. They'll understand that kind of fanaticism and hatred. Civilized secular people do not.

It will take another 9/11 to generate the the willpower needed to make this a battle to the death.

That doesn't sound like willpower so much as madness and a great way to start a third world war, and a nuclear one at that.

 

[X Factor]

I see this as every bit of dangerous as appointing a christian.

Racist!!!!

 

[Gringo allstar]

I have a bigger problem with Barak Onumbnuts being allowed into the WH when its known he hung around a known domestic terrorist, a scumbag by the name of Bill Ayers. The left comes to Numbnutz defense in 4..3..2..1

 

[StillBallin75]

I have a bigger problem with Barak Onumbnuts being allowed into the WH when its known he hung around a known domestic terrorist, a scumbag by the name of Bill Ayers. The left comes to Numbnutz defense in 4..3..2..1

If guilt by association was a legitimate argument, personally I'd have a much bigger problem with the Reagan administration's support of both the Saddam and Revolutionary Iranian regime during the Iran-Iraq war and our relationship with terroristic regimes and nasty dictatorships all throughout the Cold War continuing on to today. But that's just me :shrug:

 

[Kobie]

I have a bigger problem with Barak Onumbnuts being allowed into the WH when its known he hung around a known domestic terrorist, a scumbag by the name of Bill Ayers. The left comes to Numbnutz defense in 4..3..2..1

"Being allowed" in the White House? He was elected. That said, his dealings with Ayers, who has long since reformed, don't amount to anything that would affect his fitness for office. The Ayers Card is among the dumber of the anti-Obama arguments.

 

[Gringo allstar]

Most people are sick of war right now.

It will take another 9/11 to generate the the willpower needed to make this a battle to the death.

Tell me, how is trying to target the extremists without denigrating average Muslims a form of apeasement?

It seems like the ones who are claiming everyone is "sick of war" are the ones who would've never went in the first place. And a correction, it will take another 9/11 for YOU to have the will power to make this a " battle to the death "

 

[eohrnberger]

. . . .
Despite being ethnically Jewish, I have no insight whatsoever into Jews who either actually believe in a god nor who view sexuality as something to be fearful or ashamed about. According to your suggestion, I should have this insight. I assume that you are a Christian. Do you have special insight into the mind of the KKK, who are very fervent in their Christianity? If your answer is no (which I suspect it is), then I suggest that merely being a Muslim in a secular country like the United States would likewise provide someone with no special insight into violent religious extremists like ISIS or Al Qaeda. I would imagine that the KKK and ISIS have far more in common with one another than you or I or Representative Carson have with either of them. If you want insight into a Jihadist, go ask the KKK or the "god hates fags" crowd. They'll understand that kind of fanaticism and hatred. Civilized secular people do not.
. . . .

Yeah, I got your point, but still, you believe that no additional insight can possibly be gained?

I would think that the Muslim congressman appointed would be able to provide insight on the Islamic religion, where as a Christian, for example, would likely be guessing about it.

In the situation posed, wouldn't a Christian have greater insight into the KKK than a Muslim would?

Agreed, civilized people wouldn't necessarily have greater insight into fanaticism and hatred, but isn't that somewhat reduced when sharing a common religious frame of reference?

In the end, I suppose we can agree to disagree.

 

[eohrnberger]

"Being allowed" in the White House? He was elected. That said, his dealings with Ayers, who has long since reformed, don't amount to anything that would affect his fitness for office. The Ayers Card is among the dumber of the anti-Obama arguments.

Are you denying that there's a connection between Ayers and Obama? It would seem to be foolish to deny this.
Are you denying that Ayers was a domestic terrorist? It would also seem to be foolish to deny that as well.

Are presidents typically associating themselves with domestic terrorists? Seems to be not the case.

So why this association between Ayers and Obama. So why is it that you think it dumb to be questioning about this association?

 

[Kobie]

Are you denying that there's a connection between Ayers and Obama? It would seem to be foolish to deny this.
Are you denying that Ayers was a domestic terrorist? It would also seem to be foolish to deny that as well.

Are presidents typically associating themselves with domestic terrorists? Seems to be not the case.

So why this association between Ayers and Obama. So why is it that you think it dumb to be questioning about this association?

The nature of that connection has been known for quite some time. Ayers had long since put his shady past behind him by the time this "connection" came about. It's stupid guilt by association.