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Dear White People

SmokeAndMirrors said:
I saw this just the other day. Some drunk white people were wandering up the street and there was a black guy with dreads hanging out at a bus stop. They reached out for his hair without asking. Well, they asked after their hands were already in it. Amazingly, he just sort of stood there and let them do it. I wouldda broken someone's wrist if a bunch of people had randomly started touching me.

Anyway, I think it looks like it should be interesting actually.
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I don't get this attitude. If someone randomly started touching me I would be confused, then slightly annoyed or amused if I realized they weren't a threat. Hardly worth breaking someones wrist because they touched you. I'll never understand how some people can get so upset over such minor things. Chill out and have a sense of humor.
 
Mizuho said:
I don't get this attitude. If someone randomly started touching me I would be confused, then slightly annoyed or amused if I realized they weren't a threat. Hardly worth breaking someones wrist because they touched you. I'll never understand how some people can get so upset over such minor things. Chill out and have a sense of humor.
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Perhaps it's being a small woman, but a bunch of drunk people descending on me would not illicit good humor in me.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Perhaps it's being a small woman, but a bunch of drunk people descending on me would not illicit good humor in me.
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I can understand that, but I doubt trying to break their wrist or flipping out will make your situation any better. It seems like deadlocked guy, however he felt, made the right decision to chill and shrug it off.
 
Mizuho said:
I can understand that, but I doubt trying to break their wrist or flipping out will make your situation any better. It seems like deadlocked guy, however he felt, made the right decision to chill and shrug it off.
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Depends if you know what you're doing. When you're little and have to defend yourself, you only do things that will buy you time after one very quick, very unexpected move. You don't get a second chance because you're obviously not going to over-power anyone.

I was adequately trained how to do that, and actually did have to once.

But either way, if I were him, I would have taken the opportunity to educate them none to subtly not to grab stranger's heads. That's rude and condescending behavior no matter who you are, as though he exists to be white people's petting zoo.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Not interested. Black people have been whining and blaming white people for their problems going on 40 years now. Like most of white America, I'm not the slightest bit interested in hearing about it.

Take care of your own community, stop asking for handouts or special attention from everyone else. The whole "blame whitey" schtick is getting old.
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They are so uppity, what with wanting to be treated like everyone else.

Ironic, this film is made because of people like you.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Depends if you know what you're doing. When you're little and have to defend yourself, you only do things that will buy you time after one very quick, very unexpected move. You don't get a second chance because you're obviously not going to over-power anyone.

I was adequately trained how to do that, and actually did have to once.

But either way, if I were him, I would have taken the opportunity to educate them none to subtly not to grab stranger's heads. That's rude and condescending behavior no matter who you are, as though he exists to be white people's petting zoo.
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Again, I'm not sure why you see it in such a negative light. I guarantee you none of those people thought he was their pet, they thought his dreads were cool and wanted to learn more, and in their drunk state skipped a few of the usual courtesies. They aren't bad people being racist, they are just drunk. They probably wouldn't have the balls to ask the guy about his dreads if they were sober. I guess the point I'm making is I don't understand why so many people want to view such encounters in such a negative light. You take it as something racist when to me it seems like the exact opposite. Furthermore, this guy handled it in a great way, and I'm sure there are a bunch of white guys going on about the cool black guy they met with dreadlocks. Now imagine if he tried to snap their wrist because they touched him? It would look awful to everyone around, and would certainly make those drunk white guys more racist.
 
Mizuho said:
Again, I'm not sure why you see it in such a negative light. I guarantee you none of those people thought he was their pet, they thought his dreads were cool and wanted to learn more, and in their drunk state skipped a few of the usual courtesies. They aren't bad people being racist, they are just drunk. They probably wouldn't have the balls to ask the guy about his dreads if they were sober. I guess the point I'm making is I don't understand why so many people want to view such encounters in such a negative light. You take it as something racist when to me it seems like the exact opposite. Furthermore, this guy handled it in a great way, and I'm sure there are a bunch of white guys going on about the cool black guy they met with dreadlocks. Now imagine if he tried to snap their wrist because they touched him? It would look awful to everyone around, and would certainly make those drunk white guys more racist.
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I very seriously doubt your average person would be receptive to half a dozen drunks grabbing their head, and I also seriously doubt they would have done that to a white person with an interesting 'do.

If they're curious, they can ask about. Or ask before they're grabbing someone's head.

People know that is rude.
 
*shrugs*

This is a fictional film satire, and has nothing really to do with Education or anything else. And it really belongs in this area of the forum about as much as the movie PCU belongs here.
 
Helix said:
who goes around touching other people's hair?

eh, i went ahead and watched part of the trailer. seems like another cheesy scheme to make us pissed off at each other as they take our money. sadly, promoting division for money has become endemic in America, and it's a significant part of why the country is moving in the wrong direction.

the other reasons are endless war, a shortsighted energy policy, and a national belief that if something doesn't generate a profit, it isn't worth doing.

wanna be pissed off about something? i can think of a ton of things to be more pissed off about than skin pigmentation or partisan identity. maybe someone should make a movie about that.
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Actually, well over 30 years ago, I was worked for the Parks and Rec Dept in San Francisco. We went on a Summer field trip to Marine World. I am white with fine straight hair. Most of the kids were black, On the 60 minute bus trip down to Redwood City , I must have had my hair stroked at least about 100 times . They rarely interacted with white people, let alone got up close and personal with fine hair.

Now mind you, the kids were mostly 10-14.:lamo
 
year2late said:
Actually, well over 30 years ago, I was worked for the Parks and Rec Dept in San Francisco. We went on a Summer field trip to Marine World. I am white with fine straight hair. Most of the kids were black, On the 60 minute bus trip down to Redwood City , I must have had my hair stroked at least about 100 times . They rarely interacted with white people, let alone got up close and personal with fine hair.

Now mind you, the kids were mostly 10-14.:lamo
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everybody touches each other way too much.
 
Maybe it's a female thing, but I've never had anyone randomly touch my hair.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Not interested. Black people have been whining and blaming white people for their problems going on 40 years now. Like most of white America, I'm not the slightest bit interested in hearing about it.

Take care of your own community, stop asking for handouts or special attention from everyone else. The whole "blame whitey" schtick is getting old.
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Yes, it is much easier to dismiss issues if you never bother to hear the issue in the first place.
 
Deuce said:
Yes, it is much easier to dismiss issues if you never bother to hear the issue in the first place.
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Anyone who has spent a significant amount of time in the United States has been beaten over the head with this issue so much there isn't really much more to say.
 
White guilt or white-supremacist guilt? White people are a well known evil. The British and Europeans set up colonialism, took all the goods and techniques for producing goods, they forced artisans like Indian weavers to stop weaving and buy cloth made in british textile factories, instead of exporting their own, and this same cloth was made in England with Indian techniques.

Bahuroopee Gandhi : Complete Book Online

I would say there is a lot to have white guilt over. Americans and Europeans did this trick all over the world. That's why today we are often on top, and the developing world is in poverty.

the east India company terrorized the Indian weavers and compelled them to cut off their thumbs that wove the finest muslin.
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The East India Company founded New York City. It was a company town.
 
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Ikari said:
We still harp on the issue, so people will still see the issue. So long as we continue making it an issue, it will be an issue.
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That's what Sharpton and Jackson are in business for; that's the point.
 
Helix said:
i didn't realize that it was a thing. i'm trying to map out the thought process behind wanting to touch someone else's hair. what would one hope to learn from this? this is highly illogical.



;)
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I think touching the hair would be preferable to touching the butt. Just my opinion.;)
 
michijo said:
White guilt or white-supremacist guilt? White people are a well known evil. The British and Europeans set up colonialism, took all the goods and techniques for producing goods, they forced artisans like Indian weavers to stop weaving and buy cloth made in british textile factories, instead of exporting their own, and this same cloth was made in England with Indian techniques.

Bahuroopee Gandhi : Complete Book Online

I would say there is a lot to have white guilt over. Americans and Europeans did this trick all over the world. That's why today we are often on top, and the developing world is in poverty.



The East India Company founded New York City. It was a company town.
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That's true ...

Do you know the history of Bantu Imperialism?

Of the Chinese Empire?

Of the Mongols?

Of the Azeks?

White People are often Dicks, so are everyone else.
 
Boo Radley said:
I wasn't sure where to put this, but wondered how recent college students here might respond to this:

Samantha White doesn’t mince words. On her radio show at Winchester University, she gives stern advice to white students: Stop touching your black classmates’ hair. And don't date them just to irritate your parents.

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"My first reaction to it was: Finally," said Collin D. Williams Jr., a 26-year-old doctoral student in higher education at the University of Pennsylvania. "Finally somebody engaged this critically important topic that goes undiscussed but is incredibly relevant to any experience you have as a minority student."
Billed as "a satire about being a black face in a white place," Dear White People is set at a private, predominantly white institution where racial tensions are about to boil over. The flashpoints in the movie sound like events on real-world campuses—a plan to diversify a traditionally black residence hall and a Halloween party, thrown by a campus humor magazine, that invites students to "unleash your inner Negro."



'Dear White People': A New Movie About Race on Campus Is, Sadly, Spot-On - Students - The Chronicle of Higher Education

I think the trailer and clips are worth the view as well.
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Police brutality is a problem racially, economic discrimination is a problem.

This is not a problem, no one gives a ****.
 
RGacky3 said:
Police brutality is a problem racially, economic discrimination is a problem.

This is not a problem, no one gives a ****.
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No one? So all I have to do is find one person who cares? Just read the article and you'll find that.
 
Boo Radley said:
No one? So all I have to do is find one person who cares? Just read the article and you'll find that.
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Did you really take my "no one" literally? Ok for the sake of People that don't understand rhetorical hyperbole,

Almost no one cares ....
 
RGacky3 said:
Did you really take my "no one" literally? Ok for the sake of People that don't understand rhetorical hyperbole,

Almost no one cares ....
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Merely showing you that you're likely wrong. Just because some don't, doesn't mean others don't. The article shows a sampling that suggests there is a number who do.
 
michijo said:
The East India Company founded New York City. It was a company town.
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Actually, this is not even close to the truth.

New York was never under the control of the East India Company. From the day England got control of the region, it was a Crown Colony, controlled by the Crown (King). And as the very name states, the East India Company was involved in control of the East Indies (principally India), not "The New World". The most involvement they had in that area of the world was selling some of their goods (most notably tea).

At that time the city you are referring to was called New Amsterdam, under control of the Netherlands. It was already a thriving "company town" under Dutch control since 1609. It would not become New York until after the British took control in 1664. So here we are faced with a conundrum. You claim a company founded a town, that was in fact founded by a completely different country over half a century before.

In fact, all colonies were "company towns". Every single one of them, even when the colony was created for things like "religious freedom".
 
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