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Dang - I felt dirty watching this [W:336]

clownboy said:
Shields was the poster girl for the pedo set, sold by her mother (?) at an extremely young age to do nudes and sexy-type photos. Her career opened the door wider for the sort of "performance" we're now complaining about with Cyrus.
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I wasn't aware of that. I've never seen her do anything outrageous.
 
I feel so damned dirty now. And it is not from watching Miley attempt to twerk and fail at it. No, it is because I was stupid enough to fall for the controversy and actually view a youtube video of the whole controversy knowing full well this BS was completely manufactured. God damn it.

WTF is everyone complaining about? This is friggen MTV. If you are letting your young kids watch this you are a moron. This is not even bad for their standards. That was tame. Am I supposed to freak out because it is miley cyrus? This is standard disney girl progression. I found this just about as creepy as pedophile taylor swift singing high schoool love songs to children. Nothing to freak out about. I am just glad she did not break into a dubstep remix of achy breaky heart. She could have nothing but cum shots and groaning on stage and she would still be better than her father's hit. I say let her shake it in soft core porn until she has her drug bender and break down. Have any of the complainers been to a club in the past decade? Yeah, I am too old for that stuff and the dances seem generally retarded, but my generation had the electric slide and line dancing and we have no room at all to complain. She is dancing to the rape song, and you expected lollipops and hannah montana?

Small hint for the people who have not gotten it yet. MTV is soft core porn, so as long as their titties stay in the costume it is all good for them. If you don't care for it, why are you watching the VMAs? Have you listened pop crap? The music is made for grinding (or whatever they call it today) in a club. It is music to screw on the dance floor to. It is all manufactured BS and sex sells. this is not new or even edgy anymore. About the only interesting thing about it was them straying into furry erotica. They didn't even do that right because there were women involved.

Perhaps I am a little desensitized. I have been into the japanese crazy for a while and years ago I saw Yatta. Look it up if you want, but remember there are things you cannot unsee in this world, and that is one of them. I deal with people who jerk off to MLP porn. I have been to furry cons way back when they didn't even pretend to be non-sexual. That was nothing. I have seen teenagers do worse than that in FYE singing to the demo stations.
 
Goshin said:
Yeah... but we do it TO them, collectively as a society. We demand sugarcoated squeaky-clean innocent youth until 18, then we demand instant sexuality and sluttiness to keep our interest in viewing their work. They get sucked into the fame and money of it all young, they lose contact with reality by living on a TV set stage throughout their adolescence, then they see that they have to whore it up to keep our collective attention when they are grown up and it all destroys them.

South Park was right, it is a modern day version of sacrificing a maiden from the village to appease the dark gods...
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I liken it to pedestal building. We show them up on a pedestal and praise them, all the while building the platform higher and higher, until the air gets too thin way up there and they fall. If they manage to struggle for breath and don't fall fast enough, we start tearing away at the foundation we built until they come crashing down.

Rinse, repeat.
 
tererun said:
I feel so damned dirty now. And it is not from watching Miley attempt to twerk and fail at it. No, it is because I was stupid enough to fall for the controversy and actually view a youtube video of the whole controversy knowing full well this BS was completely manufactured. God damn it.

WTF is everyone complaining about? This is friggen MTV. If you are letting your young kids watch this you are a moron. This is not even bad for their standards. That was tame. Am I supposed to freak out because it is miley cyrus? This is standard disney girl progression. I found this just about as creepy as pedophile taylor swift singing high schoool love songs to children. Nothing to freak out about. I am just glad she did not break into a dubstep remix of achy breaky heart. She could have nothing but cum shots and groaning on stage and she would still be better than her father's hit. I say let her shake it in soft core porn until she has her drug bender and break down. Have any of the complainers been to a club in the past decade? Yeah, I am too old for that stuff and the dances seem generally retarded, but my generation had the electric slide and line dancing and we have no room at all to complain. She is dancing to the rape song, and you expected lollipops and hannah montana?

Small hint for the people who have not gotten it yet. MTV is soft core porn, so as long as their titties stay in the costume it is all good for them. If you don't care for it, why are you watching the VMAs? Have you listened pop crap? The music is made for grinding (or whatever they call it today) in a club. It is music to screw on the dance floor to. It is all manufactured BS and sex sells. this is not new or even edgy anymore. About the only interesting thing about it was them straying into furry erotica. They didn't even do that right because there were women involved.

Perhaps I am a little desensitized. I have been into the japanese crazy for a while and years ago I saw Yatta. Look it up if you want, but remember there are things you cannot unsee in this world, and that is one of them. I deal with people who jerk off to MLP porn. I have been to furry cons way back when they didn't even pretend to be non-sexual. That was nothing. I have seen teenagers do worse than that in FYE singing to the demo stations.
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Sorry but MTV is not soft core porn. I guess you've never seen actual porn if that's what you think.

Also, there were celebrities in the audience with their children.

Her performance was absolutely atrocious even without all the other ridiculous teddy bears, putting her face into a giant's ass and rump humping every male on the stage. She's in a bad way.
 
sangha said:
The links support me.

She's talking about one line in the song, not the entire song



Notice the word "lyric" (ie singular) not "lyrics" (plural)

Here's the lyrics



I bolded the drug references. There's only three, and two of them are repeats
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Lol. Okay, she's fine. No drug references. Everything's cool. I hope you aren't a parent. :roll: What a sucker parent you would be. Lol!
 
ChrisL said:
I wasn't aware of that. I've never seen her do anything outrageous.
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You don't remember Pretty Baby, where she played a child prostitute (pretty sure she was pre-teen)? Or the Calvin Klein ads when she was 12? Or Blue Lagoon?
 
Just look on the bright side, though, people.

Having witnessed the low point in American culture, it has to be all uphill from here on out.
 
sangha said:
When she was 12, she played the role of a 12yo prostitute in a movie called Pretty Baby (1978). It included nude scenes.
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Oh, so are you down on Brook for that? But not Miley's drug use (yes, Miley has admitted more than once that she likes ecstasy) or flailing around on stage like a rabies infested dog in heat?
 
clownboy said:
You don't remember Pretty Baby, where she played a child prostitute (pretty sure she was pre-teen)? Or the Calvin Klein ads when she was 12? Or Blue Lagoon?
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I don't know if I was born yet. What year was that. I think she's at least 10 years older than me, but I could be wrong. How old is she?
 
Gardener said:
Just look on the bright side, though, people.

Having witnessed the low point in American culture, it has to be all uphill from here on out.
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One can always have hope! :lol:
 
sangha said:
Talking about her performance, not her life (which I know nearly nothing about)
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So you liked the performance? Well that's your prerogative but the people in her life who care about her sure didn't.
 
ChrisL said:
Oh, so are you down on Brook for that? But not Miley's drug use (yes, Miley has admitted more than once that she likes ecstasy) or flailing around on stage like a rabies infested dog in heat?
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Where did I say I was down on her for that?

I did allude to the hypocrisy of doing that and then criticizing someone else for taking the low road.
 
ChrisL said:
Oh, so are you down on Brook for that? But not Miley's drug use (yes, Miley has admitted more than once that she likes ecstasy) or flailing around on stage like a rabies infested dog in heat?
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Not down on her myself, but Brooke has no room to talk. Her career was made on selling the hint of underage sexuality. What Cyrus is doing is trying to use the same to promote herself. The difference is the degree we've culturally slid into the toilet. Cyrus is starting from the new low.
 
ChrisL said:
I don't know if I was born yet. What year was that. I think she's at least 10 years older than me, but I could be wrong. How old is she?
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Pretty Baby came out in 78.
 
ChrisL said:
So you liked the performance? Well that's your prerogative but the people in her life who care about her sure didn't.
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I didn't see it.

But from the description, there was nothing new or outrageous about it

And who are these people who care about her that you're talking about? You?
 
clownboy said:
Not down on her myself, but Brooke has no room to talk. Her career was made on selling the hint of underage sexuality. What Cyrus is doing is trying to use the same to promote herself. The difference is the degree we've culturally slid into the toilet. Cyrus is starting from the new low.
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Damn you for making me like your post!!

Remember her jeans ad?
 
sangha said:
Damn you for making me like your post!!

Remember her jeans ad?
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Yeah, a 12 year old, partially nude pimping for Calvin Klein. On billboards. Man was that a ruckus! So tame by today's "standards". It seems we've accepted pre-teens displayed in a sexy manner.
 
sangha said:
I didn't see it.

But from the description, there was nothing new or outrageous about it

And who are these people who care about her that you're talking about? You?
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You're commenting about a performance that you didn't even watch?
 
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