Dang, DNC chair, Jaime Harrison is struggling with composure

[reflechissez]

Yesterday, on MSNBC, Harrison referred to Tom Cotton as a "maggot-infested man". Cotton has the nerve to oppose Jackson's confirmation. My gosh, Dems are really showing their emotions by losing their cool.

You left something out.

I'm surprised you didn't put this under breaking news.

 

[Rawley]

These 63 Republicans are obviously struggling against Putin's influence.

63 House Republicans vote against resolution affirming support for NATO..

Wow. What the hell...... Many not surprisingly are Trump supporters. Nearly one-third of the House Republican Caucus on Tuesday night voted against a resolution that vowed support for both democratic values and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization — the alliance of countries that seeks to...

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How's that? Did you read the resolution?

 

[eohrnberger]

She did voluntarily defend terrorists that attacked the US.

Not so sure this is as damning as one might think.

Defense Attorney Role​

The defense attorney's primary responsibility is to mount a vigorous and competent defense. This requires the attorney to take an active role in defending their client's freedom.​

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A competent defense attorney must conduct research and analysis on a case in order to ascertain the most likely outcome while also developing an effective strategy to defend the client in court.​

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Find out the role and duties of a defense attorney. Discover the main differences in the roles of defense attorneys and prosecutors in the US legal...

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[americanwoman]

There was some evidence. She did voluntarily defend terrorists that attacked the US.

Spin zone.

If you don't like how the American justice system works, that all people have a right to trial, that public defenders are part of that system, and there are a necessity to keep the system going - you are free to leave America for places where nobody gets a fair trial.

 

[Rawley]

Spin zone.

If you don't like how the American justice system works, that all people have a right to trial, that public defenders are part of that system, and there are a necessity to keep the system going - you are free to leave America for places where nobody gets a fair trial.

I love our system. Best in the world. She voluntarily chose to represent these creatures after she left the public defenders office.

 

[Rawley]

Not so sure this is as damning as one might think.

Defense Attorney Role​

The defense attorney's primary responsibility is to mount a vigorous and competent defense. This requires the attorney to take an active role in defending their client's freedom.​

​

A competent defense attorney must conduct research and analysis on a case in order to ascertain the most likely outcome while also developing an effective strategy to defend the client in court.​

Defense Attorney Role & Duties | What Does A Defense Attorney Do? - Video & Lesson Transcript | Study.com

Find out the role and duties of a defense attorney. Discover the main differences in the roles of defense attorneys and prosecutors in the US legal...

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?? My point was that she voluntarily chose to defend Anti-American terrorists. Is it really that much of an outrageous leap that she'd consider volunteering to defend Nazis in their trials?

 

[smallvoice]

Hard to believe this is douche is a party leader.

No, it's not.

 

[americanwoman]

I love our system. Best in the world. She voluntarily chose to represent these creatures after she left the public defenders office.

Did she?

 

[Callen]

I love our system. Best in the world. She voluntarily chose to represent these creatures after she left the public defenders office.

That is untrue. She was a Public Defender when she defended them.

"Jackson noted that she didn’t choose to represent the detainees but was assigned their cases while employed as a federal public defender from 2005 to 2007. Unlike colleagues who worked on the cases, Jackson never traveled to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to meet the men. Instead, her role was research and writing.

“Federal public defenders do not get to pick their clients,” she said. It’s a “core constitutional value” that even those accused of the most heinous crimes get to be represented by a lawyer, she said."

WATCH: Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson defends work as an attorney for Guantanamo Bay prisoners

Four men once held at the Guantanamo Bay detention center — men Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson never met — were central to some of the questions she fielded Tuesday during her Supreme Court confirmation hearing.

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[Rawley]

Did she?

Yes.

 

[americanwoman]

Yes.

Who and when?

 

[Callen]

Yes.

That is not true.......

 

[Rawley]

Who and when?

She drafted amicus briefs in Boumediene v. Bush and Al-Marri v. Spagone while working as an attorney at the law firm Morrison & Foerster after she left the public defenders office.

 

[VanceMack]

Did Tom Cotton say Ketanji Brown Jackson would "defend nazis"? It's not about Cotton opposing a confirmation, it is about his lying disgusting criticisms. The blame here is with Cotton

Its not a lie. The fact is she completely shit the bed when t came to sentencing child predators, and hell...well you are at it...leftists on THIS site have done the same thing defending her. So its no stretch to say that a judge that ignored sentencing guidelines, cause a man that brutally raped a 13 year old child to walk in 5 months, who then let him off for failure to follow through with his parole meetings and to register as asex offender, who then sexually assaulted his sister in law...all because the piece of shit YOU defend LET him. She excused child pornopgraphers because...well...golly...its just so much easier to get now and besides...they probably just did it to fit in with a group........

You dont think that piece of shit would defend Nazis if it was politically expedient?

 

[Callen]

She drafted amicus briefs in Boumediene v. Bush and Al-Marri v. Spagone while working as an attorney at the law firm Morrison & Foerster after she left the public defenders office.

Writing amicus briefs is not representing them in any legal sense.

 

[americanwoman]

She drafted amicus briefs in Boumediene v. Bush and Al-Marri v. Spagone while working as an attorney at the law firm Morrison & Foerster after she left the public defenders office.

She didn't represent them and you clearly have no idea what those cases involved.

Boumediene v. Bush - Wikipedia

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On November 20, 2008, following his review of their case files, Judge Richard J. Leon of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia ordered the release of five Guantánamo detainees, including Boumediene.[30] Judge Leon ordered the continued detention of a sixth, Belkacem Bensayah.

In the decision, he wrote:

To allow enemy combatancy to rest on so thin a reed would be inconsistent with this court's obligation; the court must and will grant their petitions and order their release. This is a unique case. Few if any others will be factually like it. Nobody should be lulled into a false sense that all of the ... cases will look like this one.

al-Marri v. Spagone - Wikipedia

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Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote the plurality opinion, which held that, as a legal resident of the United States who was originally detained in the United States, al-Marri could not be held in military custody as an enemy combatant. The court also held that the Military Commissions Act does not strip federal courts of jurisdiction to hear habeas corpus petitions from alleged enemy combatants arrested and detained within the borders of the United States. The court ordered the government to either charge al-Marri with a crime, initiate deportation proceedings, or release him.

Do you believe people should be held indefinitely on thin evidence or without any charges? The courts certainly don't agree with you.

 

[eohrnberger]

?? My point was that she voluntarily chose to defend Anti-American terrorists. Is it really that much of an outrageous leap that she'd consider volunteering to defend Nazis in their trials?

Even at the Nuremberg Trials there were defense attorneys.

Otto Heinrich Kranzbühler (also spelled Kranzbuehler, German pronunciation: [ˈɔtoː ˈhaɪnʁɪç ˈkʁantsˌbyːlɐ]; 8 July 1907 – 9 August 2004) was a German naval judge who represented defendant Grand Admiral Karl Dönitz before the International Military Tribunal at the Nuremberg Trials.​

Otto Kranzbühler - Wikipedia

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As there were / are defense attorneys for the military tribunals at Gitmo.

As far as I know, it is a legal principal in the US, and also probably most other Western countries, that defendants are entitled to a competent and vigorous defense.

Why does volunteering matter so much? Someone has to do it, might as well be someone who wants to.

What is known of her motivations in doing so? I think that it what you are trying to 'get' at. To this, I'll be honest, I have no idea.

 

[JMR]

She did voluntarily defend terrorists that attacked the US.

She was a public defender. Read the Constitution.

 

[JMR]

?? My point was that she voluntarily chose to defend Anti-American terrorists. Is it really that much of an outrageous leap that she'd consider volunteering to defend Nazis in their trials?

Leaps like that seem pretty common among the DP Trumpists

 

[tres borrachos]

I love our system. Best in the world. She voluntarily chose to represent these creatures after she left the public defenders office.

She's an attorney. I'm quite sure she doesn't need your approval on doing her job.

 

[Callen]

She was a public defender. Read the Constitution.

Rawley and so many others want to live in a world where only the "chosen" are granted full access to justice. News flash...move to Russia, China or Hungry.

 

[JMR]

Its not a lie. The fact is she completely shit the bed when t came to sentencing child predators, and hell...well you are at it...leftists on THIS site have done the same thing defending her. So its no stretch to say that a judge that ignored sentencing guidelines, cause a man that brutally raped a 13 year old child to walk in 5 months, who then let him off for failure to follow through with his parole meetings and to register as asex offender, who then sexually assaulted his sister in law...all because the piece of shit YOU defend LET him. She excused child pornopgraphers because...well...golly...its just so much easier to get now and besides...they probably just did it to fit in with a group........

You dont think that piece of shit would defend Nazis if it was politically expedient?

I think, along with most of your post, that Tom Cotton is full of lies.

 

[tres borrachos]

She was a public defender. Read the Constitution.

You want a Trump devotee to read the Constitution.

Too many words. No pictures. No nudes. Same reason it never held Trump's attention.

 

[tres borrachos]

Its not a lie. The fact is she completely shit the bed when t came to sentencing child predators, and hell...well you are at it...leftists on THIS site have done the same thing defending her. So its no stretch to say that a judge that ignored sentencing guidelines, cause a man that brutally raped a 13 year old child to walk in 5 months, who then let him off for failure to follow through with his parole meetings and to register as asex offender, who then sexually assaulted his sister in law...all because the piece of shit YOU defend LET him. She excused child pornopgraphers because...well...golly...its just so much easier to get now and besides...they probably just did it to fit in with a group........

You dont think that piece of shit would defend Nazis if it was politically expedient?

Well golly!

 

[tres borrachos]

I think, along with most of your post, that Tom Cotton is full of lies.

No, no, no. Well golly! YOU let her defend him. You were supposed to intervene, take away his Constitutional rights, and demand that she not defend him.

Golly.