Cruz's Lie

[MAGAnificent]

Carson is no longer registering on the poll radar here in NH. He will come in last tomorrow, just ahead of Jim Gilmore. I like Doctor Carson, but he's finished. And this situation with Cruz had nothing to do with his failure.

I like Dr carson as well. At the beginning of the race, he was my first choice. And I still think he would make an excellent VP choice on a Cruz ticket. However while he continues to whine about Iowa, he is burning that bridge.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Your opinion, us independents know the truth, Cruz is a lying bag of sh*t. Its not like we already did not know the fact here in Texas.

I am an independent and Cruz has my vote.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Giving Cruz a free pass ? I hope you do the same for the candidates on the other side.

I for one will not vote for the guy in 2018.

But then you are likely a left leaning independent

 

[MAGAnificent]

Trump is pulling the same stunt - shifting from suggesting that he's a psychopath and comparing him to child molesters to trying to defend him from Big Ole Mean Ted Cruz :roll:

I think Trump is in meltdown mode.

 

[yankintx]

I am an independent and Cruz has my vote.

I apologize, your lean says conservative.

But then again your probably a right leaning independent

 

[Captain America]

The GOP has been lying to us, with every breath they take, for years now.

Why is it a big deal now?

 

[tres borrachos]

I like Dr carson as well. At the beginning of the race, he was my first choice. And I still think he would make an excellent VP choice on a Cruz ticket. However while he continues to whine about Iowa, he is burning that bridge.

He was the only candidate who was not here yesterday, and if he was here over the weekend, I didn't see him and didn't hear a thing about it. He's finished after today.

 

[tres borrachos]

I apologize, your lean says conservative.

But then again your probably a right leaning independent

Being conservative has nothing to do with your party affiliation. Joe Manchin will admit he's a conservative. He's a sitting US Senator - and a Democrat.

 

[Excon]

While his campaign may have jumped the gun a bit, I do not hold it against Cruz either. As far as I am concerned, the apology was enough.

Wut?

1. He is responsible for what his staff does.

and mpore importantly​

2. He lied in his apology.


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His staff or a supporter made that retweet, not Cruz.

The candidate is responsible for what their staff does in their name.
This is why giving an apology is appropriate.

Yet Cruz lied in his apology, which is not appropriate.

 

[WCH]

Wut?

1. He is responsible for what his staff does.

and mpore importantly​

2. He lied in his apology.


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The candidate is responsible for what their staff does in their name.
This is why giving an apology is appropriate.

Yet Cruz lied in his apology, which is not appropriate.

I gotta think CNN pulled a fast one here, putting out bogus Tweets hoping they would catch fire. Especially after their animated denial.

Just a guess. It's dirty politics but, not a surprise.

 

[Excon]

I gotta think CNN pulled a fast one here, putting out bogus Tweets hoping they would catch fire. Especially after their animated denial.

Just a guess. It's dirty politics but, not a surprise.

1. The succession of tweets is there to review. It doesn't appear to be a fast one at all on their part.

2. Even if a person were to think that it was a fast one;

a. It in no way excuses Cruz's camp for saying what they did.
b. Nor does it excuse them for not checking with Carson's camp before saying anything.
c. Nor does it excuse Cruz's lying in the apology.​

 

[yankintx]

Being conservative has nothing to do with your party affiliation. Joe Manchin will admit he's a conservative. He's a sitting US Senator - and a Democrat.

Being progressive has nothing to do with party affiliation.

 

[Dittohead not!]

I gotta think CNN pulled a fast one here, putting out bogus Tweets hoping they would catch fire. Especially after their animated denial.

Just a guess. It's dirty politics but, not a surprise.

That's quite an indictment of CNN, and one for which there is not a shred of evidence.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I apologize, your lean says conservative.

But then again your probably a right leaning independent

As I believe the majority of independants are.

 

[MAGAnificent]

He was the only candidate who was not here yesterday, and if he was here over the weekend, I didn't see him and didn't hear a thing about it. He's finished after today.

I agree. he should either take the race seriously or drop out. Going home just before the first primary, claiming the need for a change of clothes does not make him look like a serious candidate.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Wut?

1. He is responsible for what his staff does.

and mpore importantly​

2. He lied in his apology.


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The candidate is responsible for what their staff does in their name.
This is why giving an apology is appropriate.

Yet Cruz lied in his apology, which is not appropriate.

Cruz did not lie. And the apology was enough for me. End of story.

 

[WCH]

That's quite an indictment of CNN, and one for which there is not a shred of evidence.

Naw..... they nor any of the other networks have even been biased or willing to lie about someone for political gain. Not in a million years.


Look at the way they stomped their feet when they were accused. Guilty of something.

 

[Excon]

Cruz did not lie. And the apology was enough for me. End of story.

Holy ****!

Yes he did lie in his apology.

The video lays that out very clearly.

 

[Dittohead not!]

Naw..... they nor any of the other networks have even been biased or willing to lie about someone for political gain. Not in a million years.


Look at the way they stomped their feet when they were accused. Guilty of something.

The allegation was that CNN created "bogus tweets."

 

[WCH]

The allegation was that CNN created "bogus tweets."

They did. at least an incomplete and vague one.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Holy ****!

Yes he did lie in his apology.

The video lays that out very clearly.

Negative.

 

[Excon]

Negative.

Wrong.

Yes he did lie in his apology.

The video lays that out very clearly.

 

[shrubnose]

Google 'most hated senator' and see what you get.

 

[maxparrish]

1. The succession of tweets is there to review. It doesn't appear to be a fast one at all on their part.

2. Even if a person were to think that it was a fast one;

a. It in no way excuses Cruz's camp for saying what they did.
b. Nor does it excuse them for not checking with Carson's camp before saying anything.
c. Nor does it excuse Cruz's lying in the apology.​

It's campaign season, and this thread once more confirms that when a member of the "out-group" so much as burps, the "in-group" hoots rage, and then spins it into hair pulling accusations that the burper was intentionally vomiting a belly full of bile on the "good and decent". These towel-twisting hysterics might convince an admission nurse to let them spend a few days in the local mental health clinic, but it's not going to be serious to anyone with a micro grain of political experience.

Do you have a clue as to what REAL dirty politics is? You know, like borderline (or real) criminal offenses:

- when two Democratic Party officials in Michigan’s Oakland County admitted to putting fake Tea Party candidates on the ballot — without those candidates’ knowledge — in an attempt to split the Republican vote?

- when Hackers for Gore on the eve of the 2000 presidential election, hacked into the Republican National Committee’s website to display an anti-Bush message and a link to Al Gore’s campaign website?

- when Ben Kalasho, who's running for city council in Santee, Calif., northeast of San Diego got up one morning he got a call from a voter asking why he was putting up campaign posters in Arabic. Someone printed up signs calling Kalasho "The Arab Leader Santee Needs." To drive the attack home the sign displayed some Arabic characters? (BTW Kalasho is polish).

- when Harry Reid, said over and over for many months, without apology that he had inside information that Romney paid no income taxes - only later admit it was intentionally fabricated?

The notion that an overly zealous staffer forwarded a CNN tweet and hinted to his ground people that maybe Carson was leaving the race ranks between the nano and the micro in importance.

 

[Mycroft]

It's campaign season, and this thread once more confirms that when a member of the "out-group" so much as burps, the "in-group" hoots rage, and then spins it into hair pulling accusations that the burper was intentionally vomiting a belly full of bile on the "good and decent". These towel-twisting hysterics might convince an admission nurse to let them spend a few days in the local mental health clinic, but it's not going to be serious to anyone with a micro grain of political experience.

Do you have a clue as to what REAL dirty politics is? You know, like borderline (or real) criminal offenses:

- when two Democratic Party officials in Michigan’s Oakland County admitted to putting fake Tea Party candidates on the ballot — without those candidates’ knowledge — in an attempt to split the Republican vote?

- when Hackers for Gore on the eve of the 2000 presidential election, hacked into the Republican National Committee’s website to display an anti-Bush message and a link to Al Gore’s campaign website?

- when Ben Kalasho, who's running for city council in Santee, Calif., northeast of San Diego got up one morning he got a call from a voter asking why he was putting up campaign posters in Arabic. Someone printed up signs calling Kalasho "The Arab Leader Santee Needs." To drive the attack home the sign displayed some Arabic characters? (BTW Kalasho is polish).

- when Harry Reid, said over and over for many months, without apology that he had inside information that Romney paid no income taxes - only later admit it was intentionally fabricated?

The notion that an overly zealous staffer forwarded a CNN tweet and hinted to his ground people that maybe Carson was leaving the race ranks between the nano and the micro in importance.

I don't want to minimize the examples you provide, but I don't think one should minimize the example you provided about the "overly zealous" Cruz staffer...especially when that sort of thing happened twice.