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I've had one relative and one friend off themselves. When I was in the service I responded to more suicides and attempts than I can count. I absolutely HATE the concept.
While I understand that everyone has probably thought of it at one time or another actually bridging that gap is horrible. It tears up the survivors when it's "successful" and damages everyone when it isn't.
What Luther said and some of what liz said. Suicide is a most selfish act. I don't believe people in their right mind can do it.
I've never thought about it. Having known or responded to people who did or who tried, I can't imagine people knowingly causing others so much grief.
I'd think demanding that your cancer suffering mom, or your alzheimers developing dad linger on to keep you company would be the real selfish act.
Those of us advocating the right to suicide are not talking about people suffering from teen angst. We are talking about people who are truly suffering and have made a calm and rational decision to move on after a period of crisis counseling. Why would you think that was "selfish?"
My cancer suffering mom chose to ride it out. Near the end had she chosen not to we would have supported her issues.
A friends husband, after a very bad motorcycle accident became a high level quad, think Christopher Reeves, decided with the family to literally pull the plug. I support his/their right.
There are always exceptions.
Never tried, never will. People who commit suicide are cowards (outside of those suffering from painful and/or debilitating diseases).
What Luther said and some of what liz said. Suicide is a most selfish act. I don't believe people in their right mind can do it.
I've never thought about it. Having known or responded to people who did or who tried, I can't imagine people knowingly causing others so much grief.
some are born with a self destruct mechanism which can be almost insurmountable at times. the creative, tempestuous personality is especially vulnerable. all i will say is that i have a lot of empathy, and i think that it's absolutely a mistake. understanding this doesn't completely solve the problem, but it's insight that needs to be applied during all dark nights of the soul.
I wouldn't say they are cowards, as most of the people I have known who were suicidal, were clinically depressed to the point of losing a firm grasp on reality, and were not thinking rationally at all. They see it as a way to end their emotional suffering.
Yeah. That's what I got out of most of the folks I had to respond to. After a while I just stopped asking why and went about getting them processed. The reasons just didn't matter.
I've never considered killing myself, but it wasn't for lack of a willingness to die- I just have a personal issue with the destruction and carnage that is left behind to those who love you. I've been on the other end, being the person who was left to deal with it, more than once. I wouldn't want to do that to someone else. When depression gets to that point (and it is certainly something that happens, even to those of us who never expect it to), you just have to grit your teeth and put up with it, and hold on to that tiny sliver of hope that seems all but gone.
So sorry you had to deal with people who've committed suicide Lizzie, it must be such an empty and hopeless feeling. I've never known anyone who has I personally would be too afraid of the unknown to try it.
No to suicide. I'd prefer to find some noble cause faced with overwhelming odds and little hope of success and get killed that way, if life became unbearable.
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But I have learnt to stand constant pain and fear. That's nothing that would cause me to end my life. Rather it has contributed to me embracing faith.
That's really what it boils down to in some cases. Learning to tolerate the discomfort of your mind not working right, or in the manner that society deems "normal".
Why are you asking these questions, Medusa?
why not ? :shock:
Is this something you are contemplating? Or do you seriously want to know others' reasons behind why they want to die?
I'm just asking.
Like anyone here is going to do any sharing with comments like "cowards" and "selfish" being thrown around. There's frankly better forums than this to disclose.
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