(CNN) Trump lays into Musk, suggesting he has ‘Trump derangement syndrome’

[BirdinHand]

I think you have hit on an elegantly uncomplicated explanation for what we are seeing today. Occams razor. Very likely motivation.

But the whole story arc. It's so broad. He has been so passionate about what he was doing with "DOGE".

And then we went from "It's all computer!" to the divorce in like 2ish months? Was he acting then, or is he acting now? Or both? OR was he super enthusiastic about the chance to "help the administration", somehow changed his mind along the way, and then went full 180 and started doing this scorched Earth twitter takedown?

I mean... it's possible. But just so odd., And yeah I know... Aspergers.

Ketamine.

In some ways we have two of the worlds most prolific trolls. In fact arguably #1 AND #2. And now they are facing off. And they are both unstable, megalomaniacs.

The stakes are so high... lol.

This breakup was inevitable. You don’t get two egos that big orbiting around one another without them inevitably clashing

 

[Kelby]

No. I mean "target." Who is the mysterious scammer trying to scam?


lol

Musk didn't set out to trash his reputation. He's just too arrogant and dumb to realize that his political activities would ruin Tesla.

I'd add that Musk is basically accusing Trump of being a pedophile, and Trump is threatening to cut billions of SpaceX contracts. This is not just "trading barbs."




Musk controls the board and the company. He's not going anywhere. Nor is throwing a national multi-day temper tantrum, basically demanding more cuts to federal services, going to repair his reputation.


lol... Musk and Trump. Obviously.

Sadly, this also harms the nation as a whole, as its leadership looks like a clown show.


Or....

Musk is almost certainly now on the verge of losing billions in contracts, tens if not hundreds of billions in stock valuation, and getting extensively investigated by the DoJ, SEC, INS.... He's not going to benefit.

Dear Leader made an enemy of the wealthiest man in the world, who has an enormous megaphone, no filter, and is attacking Trump like a rabid weasel. He's a conspiracy theorist who knows what buttons to push. He could potentially kill the big tax bill, and fund primary challengers to pro-Trump Republicans. Trump is not going to benefit.

Let's get real: The whole "Trump is playing 11-dimensional chess!" is utter nonsense. Both of them are creatures of pure impulse, who routinely step on their own plans with their lack of impulse control. This is not some brilliant plan to make them both look like geniuses, it's a pair of toddlers fighting in the sandbox.


I have to wonder if you've ever heard of Ockham's Razor.

You also might want to read up on hubris.


I made no mention of any past posts. But it seems pretty clear to me that on some level, you just don't want to accept that the two most influential people right now in the MAGA movement are immature thin-skinned narcissists, with zero impulse control, that now hate each other, because they both want power and attention, and see the other one as in their way and/or having more than they do.

Nails it.

 

[Chomsky]

LMAO!

I present a counter example:

 

[cAPSLOCK]

Ketamine.

Yeah... and this narrative started well before today. The whole whisper down the lane "remember Elon is in a K hole most of the time". How did it start?

This breakup was inevitable. You don’t get two egos that big orbiting around one another without them inevitably clashing

No kidding. And I think the thought this could go south crossed everyone's minds at some point early on...

If you set this story in the right context it would make a fantastic fairy tale/fable.

 

[cAPSLOCK]

LMAO!

I present a counter example:

Good grief man... could you either size those things reasonably, or at least put a trigger warning or something?

I just ate!

 

[Dans La Lune]

This is supposed to make sense?

Yes.

 

[anatta]

Now there's a wining argument!

Let's keep tabs on Dem-Repub wins/losses, while the American Citizens, their children, and their grandchildren, sit on the sidelines - digging deeper in their pockets to pay for it all.

CBO scoring isn't dynamic nd doesnt account for revenue growth. The 45 tax cuts actually produced more revenue -spending is the problem
It gets tedious hearing Dems complain about defict spending when Biden threw is un-needed "Inflation Reduction Act" which was a couple trillion for green and such. Of Course he was enabled by idiotic Repub Senators

Not that the Republicans are any better there - or here with the BBB. It's just Dems dont get called out on it.

A good example is Medicade expansion. we have no funds available for national health in the current HC system
But Obama expanded it anyway. There is no way able bodied adults with kid over 7 should get Medicade
When the Repubs cut that back the screaming started from the left. My point is no one is fiscally sound -
but only Repubs are held accountable to deficit spending

 

[Chomsky]

Yes, he would. JFK's tax plan cut rates across the board, which aligns with modern conservative economic principles favoring lower taxes to stimulate growth in the economy. JFK was also leery of government overreach. He emphasized individual responsibility. He was a free market capitalist. He supported traditional American family values, an embrace of one's personal faith as his was Roman Catholic. He would be anti-abortion.

I couldn't agree more.

And to boot, JFK was the progenitor of Medicare, Medicaid, and The Civil Rights Act, all of which came to be through JFK's Veep following through in implementing his legacy, after his life & term were cut short by an assassin's bullet.

Here:

Source:

The Kennedys and the Civil Rights Movement (U.S. National Park Service)

www.nps.gov

 

[Dans La Lune]

I thought they were both fascists. Did you lose talking points memo?

No, you just don't understand the symbolism of the Snake Eating its Own Tail. It's a closed loop. One end is Capitalism, the other end is Fascism. Capitalism begets fascism, which then devours capitalism.

 

[jpn]

 

[anatta]

I was a Democrat at the time. I was a fan.

Me too. Clinton was the last Dem I voted for as POTUS

 

[jpn]

Notice how small they both are...

 

[jpn]

Me too. Clinton was the last Dem I voted for as POTUS

George W Bush was such a disaster I thought there would never be a worse president in my lifetime.

Then Trump happened.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Me too. Clinton was the last Dem I voted for as POTUS

Sounds about right.

 

[anatta]

Gotta love how Johnson's probably freaking out.

Johnson is indefatigable

 

[Fearandloathing]

LMAO!

I present a counter example:

God that's a scary picture.


Boil, boil, toil and trouble......

 

[Dans La Lune]

If you'd vote for Clinton but wouldn't vote for Obama, it's because you hate black people or you're a PUMA holdout from 2008. What am I missing? They are basically the same brand of politician. Obama is just far more likeable.

 

[Visbek]

Yeah... and this narrative started well before today. The whole whisper down the lane "remember Elon is in a K hole most of the time". How did it start?

It started with him publicly admitting he regularly used ketamine a few years ago.

Smoking a joint while filming a Joe Rogan episode probably didn't help matters much.

Tripping in the Oval Office didn't help either.

But yes, it is virtually certain that someone in the administration who despised Musk wanted to ruin his day, by leaking info about his drug habits.

If you set this story in the right context it would make a fantastic fairy tale/fable.

LOL

The only fairy tale this resembles is Humpty Dumpty.

 

[lolbert]

WOW, this beef has exploded. I was gone fishing, then my dad texted me, Elon Musk said Donald Trump is on the Epstein list. HOLY MOLY. I agree with Elon Musk on the budget bill and fiscal issues, but at the same time, I like Trump, and I voted for him, so I am torn on this conflict, but Trump's budget plan and rally cry against Thomas Massie pissed me off too. I'm glad somebody else with more influence took notice.

 

[Chomsky]

Ordinaril

Worry not, Musk is playing 5D chess against Donald's checkers game. Musk is already daring Trump to put up or TACO.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/05/musk-trump-spacex-dragon-nasa.html

I very much expect a sitting President has the strong advantage in a shyte-show like this.

But Musk does appear to be a formidable opponent!

 

[anatta]

Not shocking you would think that.

Even with this hot mess tens of millions would take what we have now over anything the batshit crazy Left thows out there.

true. Dems have historic low poll numbers. But Dems dont hold any part of government control
Trump has some very good conservative ideas in the -bill -albeit the ridiculous SALT expansion (etc)

When I see the FOX evening opinion shows focusing on how screwed up the Dems are - it's a glaring warning the Repubs are not doing as good a job as they can

The BBB is so damn big, it has to get loaded with spending to pass. Musk is correct about that -even if he doesn't get porkulus moves votes

 

[BirdinHand]

How did it start

He admitted it during an interview a while back

It’s not something just made up…he literally admits he takes it.

 

[craig]

TDS is more virulent then COVID. It is spreading through the entire world.

 

[Chomsky]

Clinton was a fiscal conservative.

Absolutely! He was the last Pres to run a Budget Surplus!

 

[cAPSLOCK]

It started with him publicly admitting he regularly used ketamine a few years ago.

Smoking a joint while filming a Joe Rogan episode probably didn't help matters much.

Tripping in the Oval Office didn't help either.

Agree with the above... but the last one is the point I am making... The whole "Elon is on drugs" thing had a major uptick RIGHT after he left. And that was sort of the catalyst.

But yes, it is virtually certain that someone in the administration who despised Musk wanted to ruin his day, by leaking info about his drug habits.

Right. I think one obvious explanation is paving the way for the coming damage control.

LOL

The only fairy tale this resembles is Humpty Dumpty.

I dunno... I think "The Emperor's New Clothes" is a fairly good one too.

But why stop at those two when you could have something new and even better!?!