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At least three of the attackers responsible for a reign of terror on an upscale Kenyan mall, killing at least 68, are from the United States, CNN reports.
CNN’s Sara Pratley, senior director of coverage at the news network, broke the news on Twitter Sunday afternoon. CNN also reported the news on television.
If this proves to be so, this could be a major problem.
Kenya mall attack: Death toll rises to 68 - CNN.com
"From" as in born here, or "from" as in "have US citizenship". If the latter, not as big a deal as the former, quite.
I don't see why that distinction would matter either.
If this proves to be so, this could be a major problem.
I don't see why that distinction would matter either.
"From" as in born here, or "from" as in "have US citizenship". If the latter, not as big a deal as the former, quite.
At least three of the attackers responsible for a reign of terror on an upscale Kenyan mall, killing at least 68, are from the United States, CNN reports.
CNN’s Sara Pratley, senior director of coverage at the news network, broke the news on Twitter Sunday afternoon. CNN also reported the news on television.
If this proves to be so, this could be a major problem.
Kenya mall attack: Death toll rises to 68 - CNN.com
Born here means they are actual Americans, who grew up in our culture and society and under our laws, who nonetheless decided to go to Africa, take up an extremist cause, and commit mass murder of innocent citizens of another country. That's bad.
"Possess US citizenship" may mean they grew up in a different culture or nation and that their ties to the USA are more tenuous than native-born-and-raised.
I suppose one could argue the difference is subtle, but I think it is significant.
Born here means they are actual Americans, who grew up in our culture and society and under our laws, who nonetheless decided to go to Africa, take up an extremist cause, and commit mass murder of innocent citizens of another country. That's bad.
"Possess US citizenship" may mean they grew up in a different culture or nation and that their ties to the USA are more tenuous than native-born-and-raised.
I suppose one could argue the difference is subtle, but I think it is significant.
Born here means they are actual Americans,
Homegrown terrorists are nothing new. American culture is as varied as it is vast. We produce violent extremist nutjobs just as all countries do. That fact doesn't speak to our culture as a whole.
Yes, but our violent nutjobs typically go postal in our country, not abroad.
Interesting phrasing.
What difference does that make?
Imo, it's a huge difference. It's the difference between a home-grown terrorist killing Americans, and being tried in our courts of law, and justice being served in whichever way is decided by our legal system. Our producing terrorists who go abroad and commit terroristic actions against innocents in other countries will be handled however that country handles terrorists. That in and of itself doesn't bother me, but it sure as hell bothers me if Americans are now becoming international jihadists.
Having native-born Americans committing terrorist acts on foreign soil could prove somewhat problematic for the State Department.
For whom? Idiots who try to attribute responsibility for individuals' actions to an entire nation?
For the NSA that we're all forfeiting our fourth for so they can prevent such acts.
Yes, but our violent nutjobs typically go postal in our country, not abroad.
No one knows for certain if the terrorists were American. But if they are actually Somalian, then the terrorist orginization al-shababb is showing how desperate it is.
Actually, there are quite a few born-in-America Muslims/Muslim converts who have gone to fight with Islamists overseas. Several of them rose to very high ranks in Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda-linked organizations, and IIRC at least two are still on the CIA's most wanted list.
Imo, it's a huge difference. It's the difference between a home-grown terrorist killing Americans, and being tried in our courts of law, and justice being served in whichever way is decided by our legal system. Our producing terrorists who go abroad and commit terroristic actions against innocents in other countries will be handled however that country handles terrorists. That in and of itself doesn't bother me, but it sure as hell bothers me if Americans are now becoming international jihadists.
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