CNN Analyst Labels Nick Sandmann ‘Snot-Nosed, Entitled Kid from Kentucky’

[joko104]

A church shouldn’t tell you how to vote

Some people take their beliefs, morality and ethics seriously. Other people are amoral and their beliefs, morality and ethics are whatever the propagandists of the super rich on the MSM and their political matters tell them they are on a daily basis because they have no actual morality themselves at all.

 

[joko104]

Trump's fidelity to church teaching is irrelevant. His religious supporters have made a practical bargain: they will ignore his personal shortcomings in exchange for the right judges.

And you say that is what he should do, don't you? IF I was a Catholic I certainly couldn't and wouldn't vote for him or Harris. Seems rather obvious.

 

[joko104]

And you think Trump follows true to his religious teachings? gimme a break. If you think Trump is a Christian, I have a bridge in Iraq to sell you real cheap, just send me the money and I'll tell you the details. No one that is Christian supports cheating on their wives, lying about it and paying off the porn stars they slept with like Trump did. so go take your soapbox and shove it up Trump's ass.

I have no idea what Trump's religion is. Probably, like most people, some abstract belief in some God - maybe. I don't care.

 

[joko104]

Sorry but I have no more sympathy for sandman than I did for hogg. I think its inappropriate to give children a national platform but if they accept it, they also accept the political attacks that come with the territory.
Its sad that both sides are willing to steal children's innocence to score political points.

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He's not a child and all he was doing was being a school kid on a school outing. It was the Democratic MSM, press and most Democrats on this forum who made him a public figure. He already was put into the spotlight involuntarily by the Democratic Party and Democratic MSM and press. So what most upsets you is him defending himself publicly?

But at least we both can agree how outrageous it is for Democrats to parade Greta Thunberg all over television and the world. You do agree, don't you?

 

[nota bene]

Sorry but I have no more sympathy for sandman than I did for hogg. I think its inappropriate to give children a national platform but if they accept it, they also accept the political attacks that come with the territory.
Its sad that both sides are willing to steal children's innocence to score political points.

I'm struggling to see why you're comparing Sandmann to Hogg. The only point of comparison I see are that they were the same age when they became known as public figures. There is no comparison between being a student at a school where a mass shooting has occurred and a student participating in a peaceful protest. One student became known because he recorded the aftermath of the shooting and because, among all the students interviewed that day, he really stood out as thoughtful and articulate. The other became unfairly infamous and was defamed and subjected to death threats because a photo of him wearing a MAGA hat and appearing to be insolent to a poor old Native American man was wildly misinterpreted.

 

[Jack Hays]

And you say that is what he should do, don't you? IF I was a Catholic I certainly couldn't and wouldn't vote for him or Harris. Seems rather obvious.

For me it's just an analytical question. Believers would justify supporting Trump by citing the good he does their cause via judicial appointments.

 

[Fishking]

I'm sorry here, so you are concerned about a tweet from a person (who happens to work for CNN as an analyst) calling someone a "snot nosed kid" yet you have NO PROBLEM with the president of the United States hurling insults, lies and falsehoods? I say you have no problem because you have indicated you still plan on voting for Trump. So which is it and why should we be concerned with your faux outrage? I swear as we get closer and closer to the election the UTTER HYPOCRISY coming from Trump supporters is UNREAL.

I'm sorry here, so you are concerned about a tweet from a person (who happens to work for CNN as an analyst) calling someone a "snot nosed kid" yet you have NO PROBLEM with the president of the United States hurling insults, lies and falsehoods? I say you have no problem because you have indicated you still plan on voting for Trump. So which is it and why should we be concerned with your faux outrage? I swear as we get closer and closer to the election the UTTER HYPOCRISY coming from Trump supporters is UNREAL.

I'm sorry, did the one teeny-tiny drop in the bucket criticism of someone else besides Trump, with 24/7/365 negative press disturb you two that much?

 

[trouble13]

He's not a child and all he was doing was being a school kid on a school outing. It was the Democratic MSM, press and most Democrats on this forum who made him a public figure. He already was put into the spotlight involuntarily by the Democratic Party and Democratic MSM and press. So what most upsets you is him defending himself publicly?

But at least we both can agree how outrageous it is for Democrats to parade Greta Thunberg all over television and the world. You do agree, don't you?

Yes i agree about greta and all the children thrown into a political spotlight. What was done to sandman by the left was disgraceful and if sandman wants to speak out publically about it, I have no issue with him doing do. However if he chooses to do that and is mocked by the other side for it, that should not surprise anyone. While many, including myself, find mocking him in poor taste; it does not make him immune to the scrutiny.
I heard many right wing pundits mocking hogg and gretta. The left squealed and howled over that then and the right are howling over this. The fact is once those kids accept the political limelight they also open themselves to the vicious attacks that accompany it.
Sandman could of made his settlement public but instead delayed the settlement until after he turned 18 so it could be kept private. He could of made a huge statement by telling everyone how much he got but he didnt. He wanted his privacy. Furthermore I would be very surprised if his speech wasnt written for him which makes him a puppet for the right and no better than the political puppets of the left.

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[trouble13]

I'm struggling to see why you're comparing Sandmann to Hogg. The only point of comparison I see are that they were the same age when they became known as public figures. There is no comparison between being a student at a school where a mass shooting has occurred and a student participating in a peaceful protest. One student became known because he recorded the aftermath of the shooting and because, among all the students interviewed that day, he really stood out as thoughtful and articulate. The other became unfairly infamous and was defamed and subjected to death threats because a photo of him wearing a MAGA hat and appearing to be insolent to a poor old Native American man was wildly misinterpreted.

Im not comparing their circumstances. I am comparing how the media treats kids who are serving a political agenda.
If you lean left you most likely see hogg as a victim of vicious attacks in the media but not sandman and if you lean right you most likely feel that way about sandman but not hogg.
My position is if you voluntarily step in the political arena then except to be attacked. You are not the victim at that point, you are a political solider. Be prepared to fight.

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[nota bene]

Im not comparing their circumstances. I am comparing how the media treats kids who are serving a political agenda.
If you lean left you most likely see hogg as a victim of vicious attacks in the media but not sandman and if you lean right you most likely feel that way about sandman but not hogg.
My position is if you voluntarily step in the political arena then except to be attacked. You are not the victim at that point, you are a political solider. Be prepared to fight.

That's just it: Sandmann didn't step voluntarily into the political arena.

 

[lurchadams]

th

From National Review:

CNN Political Analyst Joe Lockhart criticized Nick Sandmann, the Covington Catholic High School graduate who successfully sued the network for defamation, after the teen addressed the Republican National Convention Tuesday night, calling him a “snot-nosed, entitled kid from Kentucky.”

“I’m watching tonight because it’s important. But I don’t have to watch this snot nose entitled kid from Kentucky,” Lockhart, who served as White House press secretary for the Clinton administration, wrote in a tweet.

If this paragon of journalistic professionalism (and maturity) chose not to watch, he missed Sandmann's saying, "I look forward to the day the media returns to providing balanced, responsible and accountable news coverage.” Joe Lockhart: CNN Analyst Labels Nick Sandmann 'Snot-Nosed, Entitled Kid from Kentucky' | National Review

It's almost funny how the right throws they lot in with people they call "heroes" and they turn out to be pigs. The first in recent memory was Joe Arpaio - a masochistic thug and racist prick, then there was Zimmerman the vigilante hero of the right who as you might have guessed - turned out to be an abusive, racist thug, then there was that guy - Cliven Bundy who by the way the right was ok with breaking federal law, while at the same time the right cries like stuck pigs whenever a confederate statue is threatened. Who else we got? Oh, yeah! The McCloskeys - the snot-nosed, racist gun nuts who now trumpists worship because they pointed weapons at BLM protesters.

So, but all your eggs in that Sandmann basket - based on recent history it's likely to blow up in your face.

 

[bearpoker]

From National Review:

CNN Political Analyst Joe Lockhart criticized Nick Sandmann, the Covington Catholic High School graduate who successfully sued the network for defamation, after the teen addressed the Republican National Convention Tuesday night, calling him a “snot-nosed, entitled kid from Kentucky.”

“I’m watching tonight because it’s important. But I don’t have to watch this snot nose entitled kid from Kentucky,” Lockhart, who served as White House press secretary for the Clinton administration, wrote in a tweet.

If this paragon of journalistic professionalism (and maturity) chose not to watch, he missed Sandmann's saying, "I look forward to the day the media returns to providing balanced, responsible and accountable news coverage.” Joe Lockhart: CNN Analyst Labels Nick Sandmann 'Snot-Nosed, Entitled Kid from Kentucky' | National Review

Meh. At least he didn't call the kid "human scum". Double standard, much?

 

[Integrityrespec]

From National Review:

CNN Political Analyst Joe Lockhart criticized Nick Sandmann, the Covington Catholic High School graduate who successfully sued the network for defamation, after the teen addressed the Republican National Convention Tuesday night, calling him a “snot-nosed, entitled kid from Kentucky.”

“I’m watching tonight because it’s important. But I don’t have to watch this snot nose entitled kid from Kentucky,” Lockhart, who served as White House press secretary for the Clinton administration, wrote in a tweet.

If this paragon of journalistic professionalism (and maturity) chose not to watch, he missed Sandmann's saying, "I look forward to the day the media returns to providing balanced, responsible and accountable news coverage.” Joe Lockhart: CNN Analyst Labels Nick Sandmann 'Snot-Nosed, Entitled Kid from Kentucky' | National Review

Just another case of self righteous liberals attacking children. The liberals love to talk about a big tent, but the tent is full of hypocrites.

 

[nota bene]

th

It's almost funny how the right throws they lot in with people they call "heroes" and they turn out to be pigs. The first in recent memory was Joe Arpaio - a masochistic thug and racist prick, then there was Zimmerman the vigilante hero of the right who as you might have guessed - turned out to be an abusive, racist thug, then there was that guy - Cliven Bundy who by the way the right was ok with breaking federal law, while at the same time the right cries like stuck pigs whenever a confederate statue is threatened. Who else we got? Oh, yeah! The McCloskeys - the snot-nosed, racist gun nuts who now trumpists worship because they pointed weapons at BLM protesters.

So, but all your eggs in that Sandmann basket - based on recent history it's likely to blow up in your face.

It's also almost funny how you lump me in with all of "the right," but it's also so unfair and unthinking that it's almost sad too.

Please tell me what recent high school grad Nick Sandmann has done that links him in any way to Arpaio, Zimmerman, Clyde Bundy, or the McCloskeys. So far as I can tell, his only crime was daring to speak about his own personal experience with "cancel culture" at the RNC. Do you know something I don't?

 

[nota bene]

Meh. At least he didn't call the kid "human scum". Double standard, much?

Oh, you mean because I began a thread in the Bias in the Media forum about a CNN analyst being unprofessional without screeching and slavering over someone else? Perhaps, whether it's news about a hurricane or a conservative analysis piece, I should preface my OP with some "Orange Man bad" lunatic disclaimer?

 

[JMR]

I'm struggling to see why you're comparing Sandmann to Hogg. The only point of comparison I see are that they were the same age when they became known as public figures. There is no comparison between being a student at a school where a mass shooting has occurred and a student participating in a peaceful protest. One student became known because he recorded the aftermath of the shooting and because, among all the students interviewed that day, he really stood out as thoughtful and articulate. The other became unfairly infamous and was defamed and subjected to death threats because a photo of him wearing a MAGA hat and appearing to be insolent to a poor old Native American man was wildly misinterpreted.

Actually "paid actor" David Hogg received many death threats, as did his mother.

 

[nota bene]

Actually "paid actor" David Hogg received many death threats, as did his mother.

And that is shameful and inexcusable. On the other hand, David Hogg chose to put himself in the public eye by joining anti-gun advocacy groups, making the talk show circuit, and so on. Although I disagree with his view on guns, I'm glad he did; it's great to see young people participating in the political process. David Hogg - Wikipedia

 

[Glitch]

From National Review:

CNN Political Analyst Joe Lockhart criticized Nick Sandmann, the Covington Catholic High School graduate who successfully sued the network for defamation, after the teen addressed the Republican National Convention Tuesday night, calling him a “snot-nosed, entitled kid from Kentucky.”

“I’m watching tonight because it’s important. But I don’t have to watch this snot nose entitled kid from Kentucky,” Lockhart, who served as White House press secretary for the Clinton administration, wrote in a tweet.

If this paragon of journalistic professionalism (and maturity) chose not to watch, he missed Sandmann's saying, "I look forward to the day the media returns to providing balanced, responsible and accountable news coverage.” Joe Lockhart: CNN Analyst Labels Nick Sandmann 'Snot-Nosed, Entitled Kid from Kentucky' | National Review

What I find ironic is that in 1980, when CNN first began and identified themselves as "infotainment" rather than news, Ronald Reagan was campaigning for President using the campaign slogan "Make American Great Again."

 

[JMR]

And that is shameful and inexcusable. On the other hand, David Hogg chose to put himself in the public eye by joining anti-gun advocacy groups, making the talk show circuit, and so on. Although I disagree with his view on guns, I'm glad he did; it's great to see young people participating in the political process. David Hogg - Wikipedia

I agree that David Hogg is more of an activist that Sandmann. But Sandmann is an activist. He feels it's fine to protest against women's rights. (Joining anti choice groups is not much different than joining anti gun groups. He stands with young men who performed Tomahawk Chops to the Native American Group, and chooses to espouse the values inherent in a MAGA hat. Those are all things he is free to choose, but he is old enough to recognize that all of that is being politically active, and puts him out in the arena.

 

[nota bene]

I agree that David Hogg is more of an activist that Sandmann. But Sandmann is an activist. He feels it's fine to protest against women's rights. (Joining anti choice groups is not much different than joining anti gun groups. He stands with young men who performed Tomahawk Chops to the Native American Group, and chooses to espouse the values inherent in a MAGA hat. Those are all things he is free to choose, but he is old enough to recognize that all of that is being politically active, and puts him out in the arena.

He and his Catholic high school classmates participated in the the March for Life, an "an annual pro-life rally held in Washington, D.C." March for Life - Wikipedia

Please link me up with evidence that Sandmann did a "tomahawk chop." (You do know that there is a reason why he was standing with his classmates, right? Because the March had ended, and they were told to meet at the same place to leave?)

 

[bearpoker]

Oh, you mean because I began a thread in the Bias in the Media forum about a CNN analyst being unprofessional without screeching and slavering over someone else? Perhaps, whether it's news about a hurricane or a conservative analysis piece, I should preface my OP with some "Orange Man bad" lunatic disclaimer?

Struck a nerve, didn't I? I forgot that calling people "human scum" is professional behavior for presidents.

 

[JMR]

He and his Catholic high school classmates participated in the the March for Life, an "an annual pro-life rally held in Washington, D.C." March for Life - Wikipedia

Please link me up with evidence that Sandmann did a "tomahawk chop." (You do know that there is a reason why he was standing with his classmates, right? Because the March had ended, and they were told to meet at the same place to leave?)

I'm well aware of what the March for Life is. March for Life is an activist event. What else is it? It is no different than people marching for gun control. I did not claim Sandmann did Tomahawk Chops. Where did you see me posting that? Some of his classmates did. I'm aware that they were all gathered at the Lincoln Memorial waiting for the school bus to pick them up from their mandatory participation at the March. I'm not sure where your disagreement lies?

 

[nota bene]

Struck a nerve, didn't I? I forgot that calling people "human scum" is professional behavior for presidents.

No, you haven't struck a nerve. I don't understand why every freaking thread has to insta-revert to Trump whataboutism. Do you have anything at all to say about the topic of this thread? Anything relevant to journalistic practice/ethics/professionalism?

 

[nota bene]

I'm well aware of what the March for Life is. March for Life is an activist event. What else is it? It is no different than people marching for gun control. I did not claim Sandmann did Tomahawk Chops. Where did you see me posting that? Some of his classmates did. I'm aware that they were all gathered at the Lincoln Memorial waiting for the school bus to pick them up from their mandatory participation at the March. I'm not sure where your disagreement lies?

You posted "He stands with young men who performed Tomahawk Chops to the Native American Group." He stood with the rest of his school group at the designated pickup spot. You make it sound as if by standing with his classmates he was supporting what they were doing. Do you have any evidence that he was?

 

[trouble13]

That's just it: Sandmann didn't step voluntarily into the political arena.

He did when he accepted a speaking engagement at a political convention

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