Classified documents from Biden's time as VP discovered in private office, source says

[Anthony60]

I wouldn't call appointing a Special Counsel to investigate how, when and why the classified documents got to his home or office spaces he's utilized "leaving him alone". Surely, you recognize the DoJ at work here.

I guess you missed the part about it being six years.

What likely has you pissed off (if not just a tiny bit upset) is the fact that the media isn't falling all over itself over this story concerning Pres. Biden and classified documents. There's a reason for that - several, in fact, and it's quite simple - so simple even a "uneducated conservative Republican" can grasp it if they tried...just alittle. You see, unlike The Donald, Biden hasn't tried to claim that:

* the documents were planted by the FBI
* the documents were his
* he declassified the documents (or rather, that his former boss, Pres. Obama did)
* he didn't have any more classified material via written correspondence from his personal attorney

And after NOT making any of those claims, the one thing Pres. Biden has NOT done is attempt to sue the United States government to prevent having the classified material returned to the Executive Branch on top of having a Special Master assigned to review said documents (and other personal items), so as to prevent him from facing legal liability for retaining said classified documents AFTER claiming all such material had been returned.

There are clear and obvious distinctions between what both men did concerning the discovery of classified material found on their property (and in Biden's case a public office space he frequently used for a short duration)...if you tried just a little bit to grasp them.

Wow, look at the excuses! LOL! Sure, Biden keeping classified documents, open to dangerous people, like his son, is just fine, right? Trump has them under lock and key, guarded by the Secret Service, Biden, no guards, just sitting in a garage, at his son's home. LOL, nice try!

 

[iguanaman]

Based on what, exactly?

Based on Biden's word of course. We have no reason to believe he has lied about this. He is as shocked as all of us are. What possible reason would he have to have retained those documents? Unlike Trump he is not claiming they are his property.

 

[iguanaman]

I guess you missed the part about it being six years.

Wow, look at the excuses! LOL! Sure, Biden keeping classified documents, open to dangerous people, like his son, is just fine, right? Trump has them under lock and key, guarded by the Secret Service, Biden, no guards, just sitting in a garage, at his son's home. LOL, nice try!

No one had a clue they were there including Biden or NARA. There is someone to blame for not returning them but it sure is not Biden.

 

[Galactic Spin]

What possible reason would he have to have retained those documents?

A fair question. And an important question. Americans deserve an answer to that from both men.

Also as important a question, and maybe even more so:

Why would a person then refuse to return them for 16 months?

We deserve answers.

 

[iguanaman]

I guess you missed the part about it being six years.

Wow, look at the excuses! LOL! Sure, Biden keeping classified documents, open to dangerous people, like his son, is just fine, right? Trump has them under lock and key, guarded by the Secret Service, Biden, no guards, just sitting in a garage, at his son's home. LOL, nice try!

Trump claimed they were his and lied to the FBI about having them and failed to comply with a subpoena for them too.

 

[Rawley]

An archivist would find the docs and be bound by the same law that the lawyers followed- to report it immediately to authorities. An archivist would have set the same series of events in motion.

How does that help your 'lack of transparency' claim?

Soap, the intentionally obtuse thing isn't working for ya.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Based on Biden's word of course. We have no reason to believe he has lied about this. He is as shocked as all of us are. What possible reason would he have to have retained those documents? Unlike Trump he is not claiming they are his property.

You can’t have it both ways. Either Biden new he once had them in non-secure locations or he didn’t know he had them in non-secure locations.

 

[Anthony60]

So the AG, the other prosecutors, the judge...

You are accusing them all, right now, of corruptly (which is to say, criminally) creating a false warrant.

So do I have that right? They are all corrupt liars. And you make these accusations of quite a few people you know nothing about to shield one Donald J Trump.

But nah... it's not a cult...

Oh, and let's not forget that they hid the fact that Biden had documents, discovered before the election, but they kept that from the American people.

 

[iguanaman]

A fair question. And an important question. Americans deserve an answer to that from both men.

Also as important a question, and maybe even more so:

Why would a person then refuse to return them for 16 months?

We deserve answers.

I will be satisfied if Biden says he did not know they were there and would have returned them if he did. That is all that is needed from him.

 

[Galactic Spin]

Oh, and let's not forget that they hid the fact that Biden had documents, discovered before the election, but they kept that from the American people.

So that's a yes. Now all of the DOJ and FBI are criminals, and Trump is not.

I believe you have earned a Golden MAGA.

Paging @BitterPill

 

[iguanaman]

You can’t have it both ways. Either Biden new he once had them in non-secure locations or he didn’t know he had them in non-secure locations.

Biden did not get them himself and he also depended on aides to return them when he was done using them. Isn't that plausible to you? Do you have proof that that is not the case?

Biden ‘Surprised’ to Learn Classified Documents Were Found in Private Office​

The papers include briefing materials on foreign countries dating from President Biden’s time as vice president.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/10/us/politics/biden-documents-classified-foreign-countries.html

 

[ttwtt78640]

I will be satisfied if Biden says he did not know they were there and would have returned them if he did. That is all that is needed from him.

WTF? How can Biden claim he returned classified documents from non-secure locations when he claimed he never had them in non-secure locations?

 

[Galactic Spin]

WTF? How can Biden claim he returned classified documents from non-secure locations when he claimed he never had them in non-secure locations?

He didn't make that claim. This is low grade trolling.

 

[Rawley]

Oh, and let's not forget that they hid the fact that Biden had documents, discovered before the election, but they kept that from the American people.

Least transparent administration in history.

 

[Rawley]

WTF? How can Biden claim he returned classified documents from non-secure locations when he claimed he never had them in non-secure locations?

TRUMP

 

[ttwtt78640]

Biden did not get them himself and he also depended on aides to return them when he was done using them. Isn't that plausible to you? Do you have proof that that is not the case?

I can’t prove a negative. You have yet to provide a link to Biden’s claim that “aides” returned the classified documents or that Biden had requested “aides” deliver classified documents to him at non-secure locations.

 

[iguanaman]

Oh, and let's not forget that they hid the fact that Biden had documents, discovered before the election, but they kept that from the American people.

That was not Bidens choice it was the DOJ's. That is their policy...not to reveal investigations before elections.

Nov. 4​

• The National Archives Office of Inspector General notified the Department of Justice that documents with classified markings were discovered at the Penn Biden Center, Garland said.

https://www.axios.com/2023/01/12/biden-classified-documents-timeline

 

[iguanaman]

I can’t prove a negative. You have yet to provide a link to Biden’s claim that “aides” returned the classified documents or that Biden had requested “aides” deliver those documents to him at non-secure locations.

LOL So you think Biden personally took those records? You think he is a clerk now? He stated that he was "surprised" at the discovery of those documents and I take him at his word. Why do you have to make something nefarious out of of what will likely turn out to be nothing but an oversight? It's not like he claimed they were his to keep and went to court to get them back right?

 

[ttwtt78640]

That was not Bidens choice it was the DOJ's. That is their policy...not to reveal investigations before elections.

Nov. 4​

• The National Archives Office of Inspector General notified the Department of Justice that documents with classified markings were discovered at the Penn Biden Center, Garland said.

https://www.axios.com/2023/01/12/biden-classified-documents-timeline

Really? Are you asserting that the DOJ told Biden not to disclose the fact that those classified documents had been ‘discovered’?

 

[Anthony60]

Trump claimed they were his and lied to the FBI about having them and failed to comply with a subpoena for them too.

Biden's team of people, that were rummaging through classified documents, didn't even have the clearance to look at them. Who ordered this? Why was this covered up? Then, when they heard Comer was going to investigate, they came forward they very next day, doing damage control.

This is another Democrat crime against this country, that we never would have know about, if Republicans hadn't won the House.

 

[iguanaman]

Really? Are you asserting that the DOJ told Biden not to disclose the fact that those classified documents had been ‘discovered’?

You must be kidding me. Why would he do that? Even the DOJ does not publicize investigations before an election but you think Biden should?

 

[Rawley]

Biden's team of people, that were rummaging through classified documents, didn't even have the clearance to look at them. Who ordered this? Why was this covered up? Then, when they heard Comer was going to investigate, they came forward they very next day, doing damage control.

This is another Democrat crime against this country, that we never would have know about, if Republicans hadn't won the House.

Even worse. Garland ordered the FBI to stay away and let Biden's uncleared lawyers do the search for classified docs. WTF?

WSJ News Exclusive | Justice Department Considered but Rejected Role in Biden Documents Search

DOJ officials opted for a hands-off approach to leave the special counsel’s probe uncompromised since they saw President Biden’s team as cooperative, people familiar with the matter say.

www.wsj.com

 

[iguanaman]

Biden's team of people, that were rummaging through classified documents, didn't even have the clearance to look at them. Who ordered this? Why was this covered up? Then, when they heard Comer was going to investigate, they came forward they very next day, doing damage control.

This is another Democrat crime against this country, that we never would have know about, if Republicans hadn't won the House.

LOL The I total BS. The proper authorities were notified immediately. There was no cover up.

 

[Anthony60]

That was not Bidens choice it was the DOJ's. That is their policy...not to reveal investigations before elections.

Nov. 4​

• The National Archives Office of Inspector General notified the Department of Justice that documents with classified markings were discovered at the Penn Biden Center, Garland said.

You are joking, right? They raided Trump's home, never done before, in order to help the Democrats in that very same election!
Then, they tried to keep the Biden docs a secret, until they had no choice.

 

[iguanaman]

Even worse. Garland ordered the FBI to stay away and let Biden's uncleared lawyers do the search for classified docs. WTF?

WSJ News Exclusive | Justice Department Considered but Rejected Role in Biden Documents Search

DOJ officials opted for a hands-off approach to leave the special counsel’s probe uncompromised since they saw President Biden’s team as cooperative, people familiar with the matter say.

www.wsj.com

It is called respect for a current President who unlike his predecessor is not a traitor or a crook.