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Classified documents from Biden's time as VP discovered in private office, source says

LOL The I total BS. The proper authorities were notified immediately. There was no cover up.
They knew the jig was up. If they were not trying to cover it up, they would have revealed it right away. How much lying do they have to do before you can see the truth?
 
You are joking, right? They raided Trump's home, never done before, in order to help the Democrats in that very same election!
Then, they tried to keep the Biden docs a secret, until they had no choice.
They gave Trump 18 months to return the secret documents in his possession and he ran out of time. It was also 6 months before any election.
 
Oh, and let's not forget that they hid the fact that Biden had documents, discovered before the election, but they kept that from the American people
Let's also not forget that is basically DOJ policy.

And let's also not forget that you didn't hear a peep out of the DOJ regarding Trump's hoarding for 16 months.
 
Which are very good reasons to suspect that he had plans for these documents, like using them for personal benefit.
as low as Trump has gone over the years it might not be to far out of the line of thinking
we all know He was sucking Putin off and we still don't know how many secrets he gave not only Putin time and time again when nobody was around but HE did invite a bunch of Russians ( something like 12 of them ) into the oval office WITHOUT an American interpreter in the room or even an American in sight and he was suppose to watch all of them and take the Russian interpreters word for what they were saying
Can you imagine what the right wingers would be doing IF that was Biden?
I wonder just how much secret info the Russians got that day OR if the Russians planted several new secret listening device we had no idea about or had any info on and if they did has it or THEM ever been found
and they don't think Trump hasn't almost done everything he could to give his bed buddy Putin all kinds of our secrets
as is well known Trump has been sucking Putin off for years and would do what ever Putin said to
have a nice day
 
There is no evidence that Biden even knew those documents were there no less took them as souvenirs. You are dreaming. Biden did not take any classified documents as souvenirs. That is something only only Trump would try.
The reason they were in his possession really doesn't matter. Apparently the Archivist didn't have a record of the documents which is odd. Biden had to have been involved with the documents for them to have been in his home and really in his Penn Biden office as well.. He's breaking all the rules of how to protect classified documents, not in a SCIF, not properly locked away and protected. They seem to have been missing for 6 years. Six years isn't by accident. I'd love to know why the archivist didn't have this on record or did they and didn't want to cause a stink.
Hunter was living in the house in Wilmington and there is no telling who came in that house while he was there. There definately needs to be a investigation by Congress because we can't trust the DOJ/FBI as Trump Russia Collusion and phony FISA evidence has proven. Then you have Comey's clearing Hillary from destroying 30,000 emails under subpoena. All kinds of inappropriate behavior that the democrats in FBI/DOJ were involved in.
 
as low as Trump has gone over the years it might not be to far out of the line of thinking
Or for anyone, much less a slime like Trump. Why would a person refuse to return the materials for 16 months?

It's not a leap, in any case. In Trump's case, it's not even a small step. It's very easy to surmise why he refused to return them: He perceived gaining some personal benefit from them.

We don't have to guess at Trump's psychology anymore. He has been laid bare these last 6 years. It writes itself.

Now, we only wonder whether or not the malignant narcissist simply diddling himself in his own mind as a "powerful man with super secret stuff" was the reason. If not, all that leaves is something pretty bad.

There are your two choices, Trumpers. Pick your poison.
 
There is no evidence that Biden even knew those documents were there no less took them as souvenirs. You are dreaming. Biden did not take any classified documents as souvenirs. That is something only only Trump would try.
Are you telling us that he did not know he had classified docs in his possession? :unsure: You do know that classified docs are not supermarket flyers. No one delivers classified docs to people's doorstep weekly.
 
Are you telling us that he did not know he had classified docs in his possession?
That seems kind of likely. Yep.

Now, make your argument that this means Biden has dementia. Don't sissy out again. Let's all have a good laugh.
 
That seems kind of likely. Yep.

Now, make your argument that this means Biden has dementia. Don't sissy out again. Let's all have a good laugh.
How could he not know he had classified docs in his possession?? Are you saying someone planted them?? Or, he cannot remember them.
 
How could he not know he had classified docs in his possession??
Because he either forgot or didn't know in the first place.

Do you always have this much trouble answering such apparently simple questions?

Was that supposed to be a "real stumper"?
 
The reason they were in his possession really doesn't matter. Apparently the Archivist didn't have a record of the documents which is odd. Biden had to have been involved with the documents for them to have been in his home and really in his Penn Biden office as well.. He's breaking all the rules of how to protect classified documents, not in a SCIF, not properly locked away and protected. They seem to have been missing for 6 years. Six years isn't by accident. I'd love to know why the archivist didn't have this on record or did they and didn't want to cause a stink.
Hunter was living in the house in Wilmington and there is no telling who came in that house while he was there. There definately needs to be a investigation by Congress because we can't trust the DOJ/FBI as Trump Russia Collusion and phony FISA evidence has proven. Then you have Comey's clearing Hillary from destroying 30,000 emails under subpoena. All kinds of inappropriate behavior that the democrats in FBI/DOJ were involved in.
maybe for you. I don't believe it doesn't matter. How can a regular folk have classified docs in his possession and it is fine? You better google the court cases for retaining classified docs.
 
Because he either forgot or didn't know in the first place.

Do you always have this much trouble answering such apparently simple questions?

Was that supposed to be a "real stumper"?
So it is forgotten or didn't know. That is not the same.
 
So it is forgotten or didn't know. That is not the same
Yes, that was implied by my use of the word, "or". Yes, you are keeping up. Good job.
 
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Soap, the intentionally obtuse thing isn't working for ya.

You didn't answer. Why is an archivist better than a lawyer? Is there something applicable here that an archivist could do but a lawyer can't?

Maybe pick one of these -

1. Biden was told that the Penn Center offices had to be cleared out. He knew/remembered that there were TS docs there so he should have

a. Told his lawyers to find them and give them to the NARA.

b. Hired an archivist, who would quickly find, and lawfully report secret docs to NARA.

c. Should have gotten some dumb movers so no one would ever find out.

2. Biden was told that the Penn Center offices had to be cleared out. He remembered there was some important stuff and should have -

a. Told his lawyers to get it organized and ready to be moved out.

b. Hired an archivist to get it organized and ready to be moved out.

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The Penn Center Nov. 2 ,
DE garage, Dec. 22
DE personal library Jan 11 , 12
Beach home DE, (docs found =0)

Is there anywhere else they should look?

There were 3 locations where as many as 30 docs have been found.
in two locations documents were found on different days. The number from the personal library is 6 . On a calendar it looks like the trickle is a matter of the results of a search being announced before the search was concluded. Yesterday the Times wrote that the Biden legal team has finished .

No requests have come from NARA for additional docs. The FBI hasn't requested further actions. No subpeona has been issued. Hur is on the job. That's why I'm asking if transparency is an issue at this point in the story. And I can't get a straight answer about what this theory is. How did his lawyers help him hide something? When it appears they helped by reacting to the discovery by stopping the inventory and calling in the authorities. That's what the law calls for in that event.

How and why did his lawyers help him hide anything?
 
You didn't answer. Why is an archivist better than a lawyer? Is there something applicable here that an archivist could do but a lawyer can't?

Maybe pick one of these -

1. Biden was told that the Penn Center offices had to be cleared out. He knew/remembered that there were TS docs there so he should have

a. Told his lawyers to find them and give them to the NARA.

b. Hired an archivist, who would quickly find, and lawfully report secret docs to NARA.

c. Should have gotten some dumb movers so no one would ever find out.

2. Biden was told that the Penn Center offices had to be cleared out. He remembered there was some important stuff and should have -

a. Told his lawyers to get it organized and ready to be moved out.

b. Hired an archivist to get it organized and ready to be moved out.

***
The Penn Center Nov. 2 ,
DE garage, Dec. 22
DE personal library Jan 11 , 12
Beach home DE, (docs found =0)

Is there anywhere else they should look?

There were 3 locations where as many as 30 docs have been found.
in two locations documents were found on different days. The number from the personal library is 6 . On a calendar it looks like the trickle is a matter of the results of a search being announced before the search was concluded. Yesterday the Times wrote that the Biden legal team has finished .

No requests have come from NARA for additional docs. The FBI hasn't requested further actions. No subpeona has been issued. Hur is on the job. That's why I'm asking if transparency is an issue at this point in the story. And I can't get a straight answer about what this theory is. How did his lawyers help him hide something? When it appears they helped by reacting to the discovery by stopping the inventory and calling in the authorities. That's what the law calls for in that event.

How and why did his lawyers help him hide anything?
The btm line is that he cannot have any classified docs in his possession when he is not the VP.
 
The btm line is that he cannot have any classified docs in his possession when he is not the VP.

You may think so , will Hur go by the law? Can you state his intent , willful and knowing motive?

While you're here, how and why did Biden's lawyers help him hide anything?
 
I read the memo
Oh, please do tell. What classified documents did then-Pres. Trump actually declassify? I'm sure you wouldn't mind sharing that information with us since those documents are now "unclassified". Where can one find this elusive memo so that one can perhaps read it for him/herself? When was it dated? Was it signed? What originating agencies were privy to it? Perhaps the public can submit a FOIA request to obtain a copy.

Details, details. Don't hold back now. Spill the tea.
 
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50 years Biden has been in office

He started his lying earlier

He's still telling lies about growing up in a puerto rican community and his son dying in Iraq. I am certain in 50 years Biden has accumulated as many lies as Trump

a gaffe isn't telling something that is 100% not true - a gaffe is a little blunder like saying Pacific coast when you're on the Atlantic

That is why they call Pres. Biden "a gaff machine". He just can't resist telling a whooper of a "fish tale".
 
I guess you missed the part about it being six years.
I understand Biden's apparently had the documents for 6 years, but my point to you was in rebuttal to your claim that the government was doing nothing concerning this matter, that they "left Biden alone" which is very untrue and far from explaining why Biden's not getting as much heat over having classified documents compared to Trump.
Wow, look at the excuses! LOL! Sure, Biden keeping classified documents, open to dangerous people, like his son, is just fine, right? Trump has them under lock and key, guarded by the Secret Service, Biden, no guards, just sitting in a garage, at his son's home. LOL, nice try!
First off, those weren't excuses. Those where actually things Trump did in an all out effort to keep the classified documents he had from being turned over to the FBI and from potentially being held criminally liable for wrongful possession and obstructing their return. As far as your petty argument about "allowing" unauthorized people to have access to the documents Biden had: 1) you don't know that the document were compromised anymore than we know the documents Trump had were; 2) that's rather bold of you to inject the GOP's new scapegoat into the issue when Ivanka, Don Jr and Eric could walk about MAL all day any day they so desire and walk straight into daddy's office and see anything they want. Hell, for all we know, Trump's kids were probably seen on security footage entering the SCIF. I think you might want to walk that one back alittle considering the 3:1 odds there.

Second, although there's been no commentary suggesting the Secret Service was in place "guarding" Biden's office at the Penn Biden Center or his home, every report of classified material found in that office, in Biden's home and in the garage he used to store his classic Corvette state those spaces were locked.

As such, in both cases, I'm very willing to await the results of the national security risk assessment before claiming either individual compromised national security. How 'bout you?
 
He needs no more permission than I would if committing a crime. The law is the law. What a dumb argument!

The Department of Energy, classifys nuclear information. The Department of Energy is under the Executive branch that gets its classification powers by Executive Order 13526, the President.

It would make no sense , what so ever, the President couldn't declassify nuclear secrets that he deligates down to the Department of Energy.
It might make no sense, but that's the law. Presidents do not have unlimited powers.
 
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