AlbqOwl said:
If her son had just been killed I would agree. If she had not previously met with the president and given him rave reviews, all of which she has now reversed, I would agree. That the media seeks out the very few parents who do not support the troops and approve of their mission in Iraq and avoids getting statements from those who do, is shameful. For the left wing wackos to exploit C Sheehan and literally put words in her mouth in the way they are doing it is shameful.
It has only been a year! Her son was killed and that takes time to get over, I guess our perception of "just" differs. But as she read reports that there were no WMD's she changed her mind about the President, as she has every right to do. I see plenty of media interviews from parents supporting the war, when their children have died. They call them heroes, but Cindy views her sons death differently. As that is her son, she decides her view.
That you agree with what she is saying is incomprehensible to me, but I accept that it is your opinion.
I am not saying I agree, I am saying she does not deserve the criticism.
The Straw Man in your quote was the statement (or at least inference) that her son's death had just recently happened.
As I stated, our perception is different, that does not make a strawman.
To which HTColeman responded:
Strawmen in this statement: "left scheming with terrorists to destroy America'.
You said: tactics such as the Left is using with Ms. Sheehan is aimed for that very end. The end which you defined as
the enemy knows they win if they can just make the American citizens over here quit
Implying, or rather stating, that the Left wants the enemy, aka, terrorists to win. So it is not a strawman, it was the formation of your words.
"People who consider themselves 'left' are just as much American as you." I never said they were not.
I was referring to you attitude that the "left" are "aiming" for the terrorists to win. As we are Americans, we wouldn't want that, no strawman.
"....they are not your enemy". I never said they were.
Once again referring to the connotation of your words, not the literal denotation.
Your statement that "America is not conservative" was not actually a strawman though it was off topic. (And wrong :smile: )
How is it wrong? Just because the President is conservative doesn't make the country conservative. It is not off topic as throughout this thread people are bashing the left as if they support 'unAmerican ideals'.
The last strawman in the post. I never defined American or claimed the right to do so.
You said: I think no American with his/her head in the right place will condone it.
So you don't think any sane American would condone "it", I said that you don't have the right to define American. You were defining what you thought was a sane American. Not a strawman argument.