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So a gay-rights group tried to purchase t-shirts for an upcoming gay-pride parade from a Christian t-Shirt shop and the owners declined the order. So as predictably as night-follows-the-day the gay-rights group files a complaint.
The owner insists that the order was not declined because the group was gay as the shop employs and does business with “people of all stripes”. Instead the owner states that the order was declined as it promoted values contrary to the company’s.
Does the t-shirt shop have a right to decline orders contradictory to its Christian faith?
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So a gay-rights group tried to purchase t-shirts for an upcoming gay-pride parade from a Christian t-Shirt shop and the owners declined the order. So as predictably as night-follows-the-day the gay-rights group files a complaint.
The owner insists that the order was not declined because the group was gay as the shop employs and does business with “people of all stripes”. Instead the owner states that the order was declined as it promoted values contrary to the company’s.
Does the t-shirt shop have a right to decline orders contradictory to its Christian faith?
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Discrimination is still discrimination. If their only grounds for refusal of service is bigotry, then they probably shouldn't be able to. However, I don't think discrimination based on sexual orientation is covered under current civil rights legislation. But the fact remains that these people are doing something wrong by acting this way.
Discrimination is still discrimination. If their only grounds for refusal of service is bigotry, then they probably shouldn't be able to. However, I don't think discrimination based on sexual orientation is covered under current civil rights legislation. But the fact remains that these people are doing something wrong by acting this way.
Discrimination is still discrimination. If their only grounds for refusal of service is bigotry, then they probably shouldn't be able to. However, I don't think discrimination based on sexual orientation is covered under current civil rights legislation. But the fact remains that these people are doing something wrong by acting this way.
So a gay-rights group tried to purchase t-shirts for an upcoming gay-pride parade from a Christian t-Shirt shop and the owners declined the order. So as predictably as night-follows-the-day the gay-rights group files a complaint.
The owner insists that the order was not declined because the group was gay as the shop employs and does business with “people of all stripes”. Instead the owner states that the order was declined as it promoted values contrary to the company’s.
Does the t-shirt shop have a right to decline orders contradictory to its Christian faith?
Everyone so far has hit the nail on the head. It is the companies right.
But is also the right of anyone that disagree's with them to not do business with them, and consider them idiots.
Discrimination is still discrimination. If their only grounds for refusal of service is bigotry, then they probably shouldn't be able to. However, I don't think discrimination based on sexual orientation is covered under current civil rights legislation. But the fact remains that these people are doing something wrong by acting this way.
The discussion of the local regulations suggest that they don't have a specific right to refuse a customer because of their own religious faith.Does the t-shirt shop have a right to decline orders contradictory to its Christian faith?
Yes, it's the company's right. Although you can bet they lost some customers.
So a gay-rights group tried to purchase t-shirts for an upcoming gay-pride parade from a Christian t-Shirt shop
Why is everyone making such definitive statements to this effect when the article makes it perfectly clear that it isn't anything like as simple.That being said, the shop was within their rights to deny service.
......The correct question isn't whether they have the right to refuse service but whether they have the right to deny service for the reasons they did.
I think you are actually. You might mean the bit about peaceable assembly but I'm not sure how that fits the situation. Regardless, it does say "Congress shall make no law...", so I'm not sure it's relevant at all to a discussion on local regulations. The Constitution is far from being the be-all and end-all of your legal system.I thought the first amendment said something about freedom of association; am I wrong?
Maybe you're not in one of the groups of people who would be disadvantaged as a result of such a free-for-all. There are all sorts of perfectly legitimate rules and regulations which apply to businesses but not private individuals. This is just one of them but your argument would do away with them all.Yet somehow we want to suggest that a business doing the same thing SHOULD be told they will not be allowed to do so. Seems pretty stupid to me.
Maybe you're not in one of the groups of people who would be disadvantaged as a result of such a free-for-all. There are all sorts of perfectly legitimate rules and regulations which apply to businesses but not private individuals. This is just one of them but your argument would do away with them all.
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