China's CCP warns Elon Musk against sharing Wuhan lab leak report

[Ahlevah]

The Chinese Gestapo threatens again.

That must mean there's something to this latest report.

It’s really interesting that even our own media is clinging to the more and more unlikely scenario that Covid-19 evolved in a natural setting instead of the more likely possibility that it, in fact, escaped from that lab in Wuhan. Like everything else, they’re all about “consensus”:

The Department of Energy’s low-confidence assessment that Covid-19 most likely originated from a laboratory leak in China is still a minority view within the intelligence community, three sources familiar with the intelligence community’s findings tell CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/27/politics/intel-community-covid-origins/index.html

Politicians and some government agencies continue to contend the Covid-19 pandemic started as a leak from the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, even as scientists and public health officials say the evidence points to it naturally emerging from animals at a food market in China.

Covid Lab Leak Theory: Some Government Agencies Believe It—Here’s Why Most Scientists Don’t

Almost seven million people have died from Covid since the pandemic began in 2020, and many people like former President Donald Trump have made the Chinese government the scapegoat.

www.forbes.com

The department previously said it was undecided on how the pandemic originated, but a new analysis by experts from the department's national laboratory complex, using the latest intelligence, tilted it toward the lab-accident theory. The FBI also has concluded, with "moderate confidence," that a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology likely started the pandemic.

But four other agencies and a national intelligence panel have said the first outbreak in China was likely caused by a natural "spillover" from animals.

MSN

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[Deuce]

Are those people he banned sad? Let me guess, they're crying about it on the internet (otherwise how would we know?) Musk repeatedly said people would be banned if he took control. If some dumb dumbs are surprised by this, it is because they're dumb dumbs.

They really need a new hobby. Or just a different website.

Musk has always been a sensitive guy. If someone wants in to his private website, they should probably be nice to him.

Or cowgirl up, speak the truth and deal with the consequences. And then stop whining when those consequences happen.


Everyone getting kicked off Twitter is whingeing. Poor little babies can't post dumb shit on Elon's stupid website.
No body cares, but you keep bringing it up over and over again like anyone should?

Nah, I don't need his attention. I don't get my self worth from a Blue checkmark. All those people crying about not being allowed to post dumb shit on Musk's private website need to go touch some grass. Everyone was worried that Musk would allow a wild west style no-holds barred free speech; turns out he doesn't. No one with an iq above room temperature is really surprised. Everyone who is can be banned; who cares?

Get over it. Go find a new website and stop whining about some Billionaire not allowing you onto his private playground.

Calling musk a whiny baby and a hypocrite is not whining, it's calling out someone for being a hypocrite. I've never had a Twitter account.

Keep on simping for Musk, it's entertaining!

 

[Surrealistik]

MSN

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Up to this point, without China Tesla isn’t Tesla. Moral of the story: As we’ve seen with other businesses that operate in China, such as Disney and the NBA, be prepared to surrender your constitutional rights and accept the growing geopolitical risk of doing business there, or pay the consequences.

Anyone who discounts the lab leak theory off-hand at this point despite it having been demonstrated as more than viable as COVID's origin by multiple credible investigative bodies despite extensive Chinese interference, resistance and censorship, truly betrays their political leanings and sympathies.

Given how Musk was willing to go to bat for Russia and the alt-right audience he increasingly courts despite them clearly being on the wrong side of the issue of Ukraine, I rather doubt he won't bend the knee to aggressive CCP censorship and intimidation on the matter in light of how much he stands to lose per his investments and facilities in China.

 

[D_NATURED]

Well he has a choice to make. Keep his business in china or not. Still not a constitutional issue. If i was to do business in China i would also have to abide by their rules for that business, just like any other country in the world.

It's not a business rule, it's simple sensorship and extortion. It's nice to know, however, that you'd gladly give up your first ammendment rights for a few bucks from the Chinese. How much would you charge them for anal?

 

[Roadvirus]

Anyone who discounts the lab leak theory off-hand at this point despite it having been demonstrated as more than viable as COVID's origin by multiple credible investigative bodies despite extensive Chinese interference, resistance and censorship, truly betrays their political leanings and sympathies.

Editorial: How an ideologically blinded media failed to take the COVID-19 lab-leak theory seriously

Citing a classified intelligence report provided to members of Congress, the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that the Energy Department has now concluded with “low confidence” that …

www.chicagotribune.com

 

[Surrealistik]

Editorial: How an ideologically blinded media failed to take the COVID-19 lab-leak theory seriously

Citing a classified intelligence report provided to members of Congress, the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that the Energy Department has now concluded with “low confidence” that …

www.chicagotribune.com

I despise Trump, but that didn't stop me from smelling a rat on the matter of potential if not probable Chinese root culpability for the pandemic, though I agree that there was an alarming, kneejerk lockstep and baseless consensus on the question of COVID's origins as being natural among most media outlets that was undoubtedly influenced by politics on some level.

On the flipside, Trump's supporters did very much want to point fingers at China (which was deserved) albeit to wrongly leverage that blame as a smokescreen rather than take accountability for his mishandling of the pandemic.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Calling musk a whiny baby and a hypocrite is not whining, it's calling out someone for being a hypocrite. I've never had a Twitter account.

It's whining about how he won't let dumb people play on his private website. Boo ****in hoo. They need to go find a different website that allows more free speech. Like, even mentioning it makes people dumber for having read it.

Everyone has known not to trust Musk for like, a decade. Basically everyone with a pulse.

But Ukraine thought they were smarter than everyone else, and used his satellite internet. NASA thought they were smarter than everyone else and gave him tens of billions for his rockets. Californian liberals thought they were smarter than everyone else and gave him hundreds of billions of dollars. China thought they were smarter than everyone else and gave him a great deal on his factory there. And now they're sad that he won't put up with them posting dumb shit and doxing people on his privately owned website? After being told he's a tool for a ****ing decade!? Are they really that stupid?

Keep on simping for Musk, it's entertaining!

That's the best part; I've never said anything nice about Musk. The only thing he is good at is bilking idiots out of their money and trolling other dumb dumbs on the internet.

 

[Deuce]

Everyone has known not to trust Musk for like, a decade.

Ok excellent. You agree with me. Musk has always been full of shit and all the right wingers dancing around about "free speech" were also full of shit. They never wanted Twitter to be an open platform, they just wanted to silence their enemies.

 

[Metric Mouse]

Ok excellent. You agree with me. Musk has always been full of shit and all the right wingers dancing around about "free speech" were also full of shit. They never wanted Twitter to be an open platform, they just wanted to silence their enemies.

Too bad idiot liberals gave him hundreds of billions of dollars. And then they whine when he trolls those same idiot liberals with the money they were told not to give him.

No one with a pulse believed he would do unlimited free speech. He himself said people would be banned. So why are people whining about it? Are they stupid babies?

It's like Ukraine whining about Starlink. Yeah, what did they think was going to happen? How could they be that dumb to support such an idiot?

 

[Ahlevah]

The article linked below by British author Nicholas Wade is almost two years old but is still the most comprehensive discussion of the lab leak theory I’ve seen. We’re in our third year of this pandemic, and we’re still waiting for someone to tell us the actual missing link of this thing, while the original vectors of the SARS and MERS outbreaks were learned within months. Why is that?

The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

If the case that SARS2 originated in a lab is so substantial, why isn’t this more widely known? As is now obvious, there are many people who have reason not to talk about it.

thebulletin.org

 

[Deuce]

Too bad idiot liberals gave him hundreds of billions of dollars. And then they whine when he trolls those same idiot liberals with the money they were told not to give him.

No one with a pulse believed he would do unlimited free speech. He himself said people would be banned. So why are people whining about it? Are they stupid babies?

It's like Ukraine whining about Starlink. Yeah, what did they think was going to happen? How could they be that dumb to support such an idiot?

Ok so regularly Donald Trump would do something stupid and cruel.

Now, this is not surprising. Donald Trump is still stupid and cruel. I am not shocked when a stupid and cruel man does something stupid and cruel.

Weirdly, I still oppose doing stupid and cruel things and will voice my objection to being stupid and cruel.

You, of course, have never in your life voiced opposition to people doing things, unless those things surprised you.

 

[SCrider]

It's not a business rule, it's simple sensorship and extortion. It's nice to know, however, that you'd gladly give up your first ammendment rights for a few bucks from the Chinese. How much would you charge them for anal?

Wow, that's what you got out of what i said?

 

[mrdeltoid]

No. Elon Musk doesn’t live in China. He lives in Texas—the land of Angus cattle, West Texas Intermediate Crude, and big opinions on everything under a Midland summer sun. But going forward he’ll need to shut up on topics depicting China in a negative light if he wants to continue doing business there unfettered. While it’s not an official surrender of his right of free speech, it might as well be.

He knows that.

 

[Metric Mouse]

You, of course, have never in your life voiced opposition to people doing things, unless those things surprised you.

Lololol! That's so stupid. I have literally dozens of threads on this site objecting to harmful, racist border policies and mishandling of the pandemic resulting in hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths and the repeated mishandling of TS/SCI documents. I have hundreds and hundreds of posts calling out such behavior.

I've been calling out liberal Californians who gave Musk his fortune for years. It's well documented. It's not surprising that they support idiots like Elon, it's just surprising when they whine about the consequences they were told would occur for doing so.

Your lies aren't fooling anyone my dude. So transparent.


Elon Musk kicking idiots who shit post and dox people off of his personal website is not cruel. It's just an internet site. No one is harmed by this, even the little cry babies.

It's the internet, there are rules and if dumb ****s don't follow them they should stop whining when the consequences occur. Liberals simping for obvious idiots are the reason that Elon Musk is the richest man on the planet.

 

[D_NATURED]

Wow, that's what you got out of what i said?

Well, yeah. You said, if you did business in China, you'd have to trade your ability to speak freely for that "opportunity".

That seems a bit in conflict with our nation's values and, perhaps, too cavalier about how many Americans had to die to win those rights.

You disagree?

 

[SCrider]

Well, yeah. You said, if you did business in China, you'd have to trade your ability to speak freely for that "opportunity".

That seems a bit in conflict with our nation's values and, perhaps, too cavalier about how many Americans had to die to win those rights.

You disagree?

I'd call it common sense. You must be one of those obnoxious Americans who think you can get away with anything when you are in a foreign country.

That said i would not do business in China.

 

[D_NATURED]

I'd call it common sense. You must be one of those obnoxious Americans who think you can get away with anything when you are in a foreign country.

That said i would not do business in China.

Elon Musk isn't in China, he's in Texas. And no, I'm not the kind to expect other countries to honor our constitution. The really annoying Americans, however, are the ones who pretend to be cultural relativists when, in actuality, they're just cheap whores.

 

[SMTA]

Hopefully, Mr. M. will tell Red China to go jump in the lake.

How pitiful that so many American businessmen and athletes kowtow to the Communists.

Hopefully, someone or some nation will make China stay in its lane.

How ironic! Maybe Asia now needs Japan has its protector.

Exactly.
Trump kissed China’s ass for 4 years.

 

[SCrider]

Elon Musk isn't in China, he's in Texas. And no, I'm not the kind to expect other countries to honor our constitution. The really annoying Americans, however, are the ones who pretend to be cultural relativists when, in actuality, they're just cheap whores.

No Shit he is Texas. Hell even I get out of paying taxes in the US, Donald Trump, payed taxes in China. If you want to do business in a place like that you have to play by their rules. Is that so hard for you to understand? It has nothing to do with cultural relativism, it's just reality.

 

[The Mark]

MSN

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Up to this point, without China Tesla isn’t Tesla. Moral of the story: As we’ve seen with other businesses that operate in China, such as Disney and the NBA, be prepared to surrender your constitutional rights and accept the growing geopolitical risk of doing business there, or pay the consequences.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with constitutional rights.

This is China saying "we can **** with money/stuff you have in our country if you don't stop this".

There is nothing in the constitution which protects against that.

Edit: 1st amendment only protects us from OUR government.

 

[ralfy]

Yeah, the CCP was trying to protect their top agent, his name is Fauci.

Also, several NGOs, U.S. government agencies, and universities.

 

[snakestretcher]

So the more Chinese you kill the more St. Peter’s Points you earn? 50 million dead Chinese under communism and you almost earn a spot among the venerated? I guess if you’ve seen one dead Chinese you’ve seen them all, eh? Or the only good Chinese is a dead Chinese?

You really want to play this game?

DEATH TOLL FROM MODERN AMERICAN WARS

The death toll of over 12 million in America's wars for freedom: wars in Korea, Vietnam and The War on Terror in Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan

www.worldfuturefund.org

 

[snakestretcher]

LOL youre so angry because your true love of Trump got exposed. Well, you can only blame yourself for that. lol


LOL your undying love for the orange man is so great you were the first to mention him in the thread, and now you mentioned him twice more. Trump must adore you for it.

Projecting again, or are you incapable of finding something else to imagine about me?

 

[Paradoxical]

I wouldn't trust information from either China or Musk. They kind of deserve each other.

Why? Because Musk exposed the left for being just like Communist China?

 

[snakestretcher]

Or he could give up his reliance on cheap labor and manufacture his products here in the US.

Tesla cars are built in the US among other places (Shanghai and Berlin). Cheap foreign labour still means that your iPhone costs an average of £1500. Imagine how much it would cost if built in the US at American wage levels.