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Chicago prepares for a rough night as body cam footage of police killing a 13 year old boy is about to be released

sjmay said:
Is there another version??? I mean ****, it's on tape for **** sake....

What did he say...that wasn't backed up on tape?
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Yea, it’s on tape The boy had is hands raised when he was shot
 
mrjurrs said:
Waiting more than 20 seconds to make the determination would be the first step. Not firing in the first instant you see the perceived criminal would be a good second step. Not firing at someone that has his hands raised without a weapon would be a good third step. Did I miss something?
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No, you got it right
 
Citizen said:
Yea, it’s on tape The boy had is hands raised when he was shot
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No...he was shot AS he raised his hands.....you are taking your version from a still ****ing picture....be ****ing honest.
 
sjmay said:
Yea, there is a reason hindsight is called 20/20.....

What would you be saying if he shot the cop? That the cop knew what he was getting into?
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No, but part of a LEO's training and salary are to train for those possibilities. Yes, the officer should not be the first person on scene to fire their weapon. I wouldn't say he knew what he was getting into, the results show he obviously did not.
 
mrjurrs said:
No, but part of a LEO's training and salary are to train for those possibilities. Yes, the officer should not be the first person on scene to fire their weapon. I wouldn't say he knew what he was getting into, the results show he obviously did not.
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That wish is a pipe dream.
 
mrjurrs said:
No, but part of a LEO's training and salary are to train for those possibilities. Yes, the officer should not be the first person on scene to fire their weapon. I wouldn't say he knew what he was getting into, the results show he obviously did not.
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You say that like you have a clue what LEO training is......lol that's a ****ing riot.
 
mrjurrs said:
No, but part of a LEO's training and salary are to train for those possibilities. Yes, the officer should not be the first person on scene to fire their weapon. I wouldn't say he knew what he was getting into, the results show he obviously did not.
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Wait....I just re-read this...so you think that the cop should wait until he is fired upon....to fire their weapon.....holy ****ing ape shit, that has to got to be the most retarded thing I've seen today....
 
sjmay said:
No...he was shot AS he raised his hands.....you are taking your version from a still ****ing picture....be ****ing honest.
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Yes, and the still photo shows the child with his hands over his head with no weapon before he was shot. Deny that.
 
sjmay said:
Wait....I just re-read this...so you think that the cop should wait until he is fired upon....to fire their weapon.....holy ****ing ape shit, that has to got to be the most retarded thing I've seen today....
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It would save lives. A police officers life is worth a lot, but not more than the people they protect and serve.
 
sjmay said:
No...he was shot AS he raised his hands.....you are taking your version from a still ****ing picture....be ****ing honest.
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Which was too fast according to the poster's claim and yes cops should be willing to assume some risk.



 
mrjurrs said:
Yes, and the still photo shows the child with his hands over his head with no weapon before he was shot. Deny that.
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Absolutely...you say it was BEFORE......I say it was AS.....prove you're right
 
mrjurrs said:
It would save lives. A police officers life is worth a lot, but not more than the people they protect and serve.
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It would save lives lmao...holy shit. You realize the end result is less police officers.....less patroling.....and more crime...right?
 
sjmay said:
Absolutely...you say it was BEFORE......I say it was AS.....prove you're right
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Show me the bullet hole in the child. Oh, you think the photo is the frame between shooting and hitting. If this wasn't so tragic I'd be laughing my ass off.
 
pamak said:
Which was too fast according to the poster's claim and yes cops should be willing to assume some risk.



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LMAO...you show a link of a guy with a machete.......needing what was that..30-40 cops to detain him.....vs.....a gun.

****ing brilliant.
 
sjmay said:
LMAO...you show a link of a guy with a machete.......needing what was that..30-40 cops to detain him.....vs.....a gun.

****ing brilliant.
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I present the concept of taking risk because such people in the US are often riddles with bullets. There were many cops around because the first ones who responded were willing to be patient and assume some risk.
 
mrjurrs said:
Show me the bullet hole in the child. Oh, you think the photo is the frame between shooting and hitting. If this wasn't so tragic I'd be laughing my ass off.
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Again, it is STILL ****ING FRAME...TAKEN .08 SECONDS BEFORE THE KID WAS HIT...

Again, prove to me the officer hasn't fired already.
 
pamak said:
I present the conceotnof taking risk because such people in the US are often riddles with bullets.
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Watch your own link, the guy literally says there was on risk to any of the officers.....how is that taking risk?
 
sjmay said:
Watch your own link, the guy literally says there was on risk to any of the officers.....how is that taking risk?
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The guys is a UK police officer and I want more US police ones rot develop the same mentality. I can see very well the situation that unfolded and so do you and everybody else. And you can funds similar examples in Europe where chips are willing to take risk

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Unfortunately, in the US some cops do not exhibit such ethos because they can get away with it.
 
sjmay said:
It would save lives lmao...holy shit. You realize the end result is less police officers.....less patroling.....and more crime...right?
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No I don't, and you have nothing beyond your opinion to challenge that with.
sjmay said:
Again, it is STILL ****ING FRAME...TAKEN .08 SECONDS BEFORE THE KID WAS HIT...

Again, prove to me the officer hasn't fired already.
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Prove to me he has. By the way, a 9mm shell will travel about 120 feet in .08 of a second. Care to try some new facts?
 
Cope said:
To the officer , it is.

His/Her own ought to be as important or more to the suspect also.
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And the child was suspected of? It doesn't say protect your own live and serve.
 
pamak said:
The guys is a UK police officer and I want more US police ones rot develop the same mentality. I can see very well the situation that unfolded and so do you and everybody else. And you can funds similar examples in Europe where chips are willing to take risk

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Unfortunately, in the US some cops do not exhibit such ethos because they can get away with it.
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Again, WHAT RISK, they had 40 ****ing cops there with shields and literally enveloped the guy....WHAT RISK do you think they took?
 
mrjurrs said:
And the child was suspected of? It doesn't say protect your own live and serve.
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Evidently he was suspected of shooting at passing cars

We expect cops to be like Marines, and yet, when they arm themselves like Marines, we complain. We have a pretty good system in place to figure out good calls on pulling the trigger and bad calls. The bad calls need to result in removal from the force as well as whatever punishment fits their crimes.
Your thesis does not do that, you thesis just results in dead cops.
 
mrjurrs said:
No I don't, and you have nothing beyond your opinion to challenge that with.

Prove to me he has. By the way, a 9mm shell will travel about 120 feet in .08 of a second. Care to try some new facts?
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No, I have logic for **** sake...let's take your position and follow it.

Your position: Cops shouldn't fire on anyone unless being fired upon.

Now this everything that follows your position.

Cop jobs just became spectactularly MORE dangerous, therefore...LESS people will want them, apply, etc.

Once you have LESS cops, you have MORE population per cop, ratio, criminals will feel emboldened, and more crime, because there is LESS likely to be caught....because....LESS cops.
 
Cope said:
Evidently he was suspected of shooting at passing cars
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Suspected. The officer was judge, jury, and executioner. I'm going to guess that since he had an airsoft, he wouldn't have been convicted.
 
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