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Can we really trust the mail in vote process as it stands?

Ikari said:
Mail-in is the intelligent method for voting systems.
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Quite the opposite. In-person voting is the tried and true method of secure and trusted voting. Why does it need to be changed? Oh Yah, we're too damn lazy to go to the polls.
 
Da Mole said:
Quite the opposite. In-person voting is the tried and true method of secure and trusted voting. Why does it need to be changed? Oh Yah, we're too damn lazy to go to the polls.
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Why shouldn't it be changed if we can increase voter turn out in a reliable and secure mail-in system? The only reason to fight it is if you don't want folk voting. No lines, no taking off of work, no fuss. It's the better system.

It's like saying we should all still be driving Model-T's because they worked. lol
 
Da Mole said:
This information may be available but I haven't seen it and we all need to know the answer. In reference to mail in vote counting and signature verification, do the people with this responsibility know the party affiliation (Dem or Rep) or whom that person did in fact vote for when making a decision. If any of this information is available to them can we be confident in their decission to allow the signature or throw the ballot out?

Most of this mail in conformation will take place after Nov 3 and I assume that a partial vote count will show who is in the lead. If we have to deal with the real possibility that signature verifications will be skewed by political bias then it is the number #1 reason to abolish this already flawed concept.
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Classic example of Trumpster wisdom. :roll:
 
Da Mole said:
Quite the opposite. In-person voting is the tried and true method of secure and trusted voting. Why does it need to be changed? Oh Yah, we're too damn lazy to go to the polls.
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Seriously, you’re making a complete ass of yourself.

Mail-in/absentee voting has been in use in America since our country’s founding. Regardless of the utter bull**** that Trump and his lying sycophants are pushing, mail-in/absentee voting is a proven reliable method. There isn’t one legitimate study of mail-in/absentee voting supporting the lies being spread around by lying right wing dingbats.
 
Mycroft said:
It depends.

I trust my state's (Colorado) mail-in voting system. It's been in use for seven years. We have laws, procedures and processes in place that make it very safe, secure and convenient. And people who still want to vote in person can also do that.

I don't know what other states have done to make their laws, procedures and processes to make their state's systems safe and secure. But I suspect some states haven't done a very good job.

One thing I totally oppose is counting mail-in ballots AFTER election day. Colorado rejects any mail-in ballots that arrive after 7:30pm on election day. That is the same time the in-person polls close. If voters cannot ensure they get to the polls before they close or ensure their ballot arrives before the polls close then their votes being rejected is entirely their own fault.

The last thing I want is states taking weeks or more to count their ballots and certifying their election numbers. This sort of thing makes it too easy for a bunch of votes being "found" after election day.
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"Colorado rejects any mail-in ballots that arrive after 7:30pm on election day."
This makes a lot of sense to me.

"If voters cannot ensure they get to the polls before they close or ensure their ballot arrives before the polls close then their votes being rejected is entirely their own fault."
Agreed.

"The last thing I want is states taking weeks or more to count their ballots and certifying their election numbers. This sort of thing makes it too easy for a bunch of votes being "found" after election day."
Agreed. In fact, there's already a track record established of exactly this.

Broward recount shenanigans: 46,000 Democrat votes “found ...
thecapitolist.com › broward-recount-shenanigans-over-...
Nov 8, 2018 - With Brenda Snipes running the recount in Broward County, Florida ... There needs to be more clarity into law with once discounted ballots now ...
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Seems that Democrats have the attitude of 'the election isn't done until we've won'.
 
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