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Can Texas Secede from the U.S.?

Texmex said:
Bull****! Texas is dependent on the U.S. government much more that it is a bunch of dumbasses who think they can leave the Union again. I imagine if Texans were so stupid to actually leave, when the bombing started, their production would collapse.

I guess they could get George W. Bush to lead the Texas Air Force. :lamo
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Unless Texas got nukes, either on the world market or developed in house. I suspect the Usians enthusiasm for bombing would be curtailed by such a prospect.
 
Henrin said:
The right move for Lincoln was to withdraw the troops from the fort and talk with the south. If the south decided to move in after the soldiers left then it would be an act of war. Keeping troops in the state and refusing to talk however did nothing but escalate the situation.

And why would you buy for time? The problem is the fort and Lincoln. There is nothing to buy time for.
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Bet a thousand dollars to 5 that if Lincoln had withdrawn the troops and the south moved in after they left and the Civil War still took place...

...you would be writing that the right move for Lincoln was to keep the troops there in the fort rather than abandoning it...and if the south attacked, it would be an act of war.

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Citizen.Seven said:
Unless Texas got nukes, either on the world market or developed in house. I suspect the Usians enthusiasm for bombing would be curtailed by such a prospect.
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Who exactly is going to give Texas nukes?
 
Citizen.Seven said:
Unless Texas got nukes, either on the world market or developed in house. I suspect the Usians enthusiasm for bombing would be curtailed by such a prospect.
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I never said anything about enthusiasm. I do imagine if shove came to punch, the United States would do whatever is necessary to preserve the Union. They did it before, and they will do it again.
 
Casper said:
Not per the Law of the Land. But that said if We wanted to leave there would be little the rest of the Nation could do to stop Us. The reason for that is Texas would not leave the Union unless the Union had already failed and the odds are other states and areas of the Nation may be considering the same action. I would also add that if Texas left the Union, Oklahoma would definitely leave with Us and probably a few other States. Interesting note is that if Texas left the Union it would already be the 10th most powerful Nation in the world economically and would be ranked in the top 10 militarily within a year or two. The is an old joke here in Texas:
How many countries border Texas?
Two
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no way texas would leave, it is way too dependent on federal disaster money.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Sounds like UK Brexit voters
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No, that sounds like how liberals smear those who don't vote the way they want them to. I guarantee the average Brit knows ten times more about the EU and Brexit than you do.
 
Frank Apisa said:
Bet a thousand dollars to 5 that if Lincoln had withdrawn the troops and the south moved in after they left and the Civil War still took place...

...you would be writing that the right move for Lincoln was to keep the troops there in the fort rather than abandoning it...and if the south attacked, it would be an act of war.

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Yeah, except even his advisors were telling him to listen and withdraw the troops. lol.
 
Texmex said:
I never said anything about enthusiasm. I do imagine if shove came to punch, the United States would do whatever is necessary to preserve the Union. They did it before, and they will do it again.
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Then they would pay a heavy price for their conquest, making their first look like a slap fight.
 
Fletch said:
No, that sounds like how liberals smear those who don't vote the way they want them to.
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No, it doesn't sound that way at all. Not to anyone rational, in any case.
I guarantee the average Brit knows ten times more about the EU and Brexit than you do.
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LOL! Judging based on your past history, your guarantees aren't worth a bucket of warm spit.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! Could you please speed up the process. The US w/out Texas would be an immediate improvement.
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If the current trend occurring within the Union continues it will happen soon enough.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Only problem is there aren't 27 million Texans who want to leave the union. 2700 is pushing it by my guess.

States tried to leave the union when it was going in a direction they didn't like back in 1860-1861. How well did that work out for them?
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Yeah? I have met a lot of Texans, they are gernearlly strong of mind and will, fiercely independent and most agree with the Constitution, so are mainly Conservative upstanding folk [ well, maybe not all the folks in Austin and a few other more liberal spots]. If I could have chosen where to be born in the US of A, probably would have been Texas.

They are not the facile lib, try to ban gun but why oh why are crime rates so high here types you might typically find in Chitown, yano?

But that is just my opinion. Now as to the facts to contradict your poor assessment of how the good folk of the great state of Texas might react to possible bid to secede. In 2012 after only 4 years of the worst administration in living memory, well, let me put it this way, you were only off by a little over 122,000 signatures in the petition drive to secede at that time.

Four worse years later, well... oh, and I think they do already have another petition drive going, too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_state_petitions_for_secession

I think all 50 states had petitions to do so. They do not even list my former state, Florida, which by Nov 14, 2012 already had 30,000 signatures.
 
Henrin said:
They're right there in their state. How do you think? :lol:
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Somehow, I highly doubt Texas is going to be able to swipe a nuke. Do you have any idea the kind of security they have?

Not to mention it almost guarantees the federal government would come down like a hammer.
 
Tigerace117 said:
Who exactly is going to give Texas nukes?
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On the world market, posibly bought from Russia, China, or Pakistan. Internally, Texas is technologically sophisticated enough to develop their own versions of 70 year old tech. The only stumbling block is enrichment, and there are plenty of chemical processing plants in Texas that could be retooled for such an endeavor. If Abbott decided Texas should be a nuclear power, it would come to fruition in six months easily, possibly much quicker.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No, it doesn't sound that way at all. Not to anyone rational, in any case.

LOL! Judging based on your past history, your guarantees aren't worth a bucket of warm spit.
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You haventt been here a month so you know nothing of my "past history.' And you know even less about the EU or Brexit. All you know is what the left feels about the issue. But go ahead, dazzle me with your expertise...
 
Tigerace117 said:
Somehow, I highly doubt Texas is going to be able to swipe a nuke. Do you have any idea the kind of security they have?

Not to mention it almost guarantees the federal government would come down like a hammer.
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Yes, I'm aware of the security. If the federal government is once again being unreasonable and war is a real possibly I can't imagine Texas would just allow them to roll out of their state with the nukes. I imagine the nukes would be just another fort sumter, but a great deal harder to deal with.
 
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