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Can a free country like USA produce a good leader

bhkad said:
He kept us safe for seven and a half years when everyone thought we'd be hit again after 9/11.
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A wife beater who stops beating his wife in October is still a wife beater.
 
danarhea said:
The USA continually produces excellent leaders. The best ones stay in the private sector, so our government ends up with the dregs.
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It's too bad they're not quite excellent enough to avoid dependency on the government through measures such as massive corporate welfare, strategic bankruptcies and bailouts...
 
Sov said:
It's too bad they're not quite excellent enough to avoid dependency on the government through measures such as massive corporate welfare, strategic bankruptcies and bailouts...
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That's precisely what makes them evil ****ing geniuses.
 
EpicDude86 said:
That's precisely what makes them evil ****ing geniuses.
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Criminal: A person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation.
Howard Scott
 
We are a first world country with one of the highest per capita incomes. Las Vegas Sands wouldnt have invested $5 billion here under the leadership of babysitters.
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And China is a world Superpower. How you suppose that that relates to liberty is still obscure to me.
 
Panache said:
And China is a world Superpower. How you suppose that that relates to liberty is still obscure to me.
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Too much liberty and u have trigger happy mavericks going on a rampage.
 
Is that too much liberty, or is that too little responsibility on the part of others? The majority of these incidents have involved minors and other students, if I recall correctly, who have both fewer liberties than adult members of our society and who have fewer responsibilities to keep them engaged in society.

There are far fewer of these cases when the killer is responsible for other people, and it is my belief that being stopped and challenged by responsible family members would eliminate all but the most isolated of these cases.
 
Too much liberty and u have trigger happy mavericks going on a rampage.
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I'll take the wild west over an Orwellian dystopia any day.
 
Panache said:
I'll take the wild west over an Orwellian dystopia any day.
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Most of the hangings in Singapore are for non-violent "offenses."
 
yes, but the people are not likely to vote for him or her because they might not be as charasmatic as an Obama or Bush.
 
Sov said:
Most of the hangings in Singapore are for non-violent "offenses."
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If you wanna wipe out the drug menace, seriel killlings, murders, rampaging, then hang them all and USA will be a safer country like Singapore.
 
If you wanna wipe out the drug menace, seriel killlings, murders, rampaging, then hang them all and USA will be a safer country like Singapore.
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No. In a safer country you could sell marijuana without getting killed for it. You think that just because a death is caused by big brother it doesn't count as death?
 
Panache said:
No. In a safer country you could sell marijuana without getting killed for it. You think that just because a death is caused by big brother it doesn't count as death?
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Hanging crimnals is not as bad as killing 100s of 1000s of innocent civilians.
 
I'd say that depends entirely on what you call a criminal and how many of them you hang.
 
Hanging crimnals is not as bad as killing 100s of 1000s of innocent civilians.
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I don't recall advocating killing 100s of 1000s of innocent civilians.
 
Obviously nobody in USA will recall the wiping out of nations on the pretext of installing a democracy and then rebuilding the country enriching some americans while millions of americans are starving.
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I find your non-sequitur deflection uninteresting. Governments killing civilians is bad. Governments using their military power to benefit a select few at the expense of taxpayers is also bad. If you ask me, governments in general are bad. I am not completely convinced that they are unnecessary, but I certainly don't have to like them. People starving is also bad. None of this has anything to do with the conversation.

I just want you to explain to me, how Singapore is "safe." Are people who smoke marijuana in Singapore in no danger at all? If I walk down the street, chewing gum and offering some to local children, will I be in no danger of any kind of physical assault? Will they?
 
You talk about our chewing gums when you have a massive debt of $12T, high unemployment rates, economic and financial meltdown, 2 wars going on and a 3rd war looming. :rofl
 
You talk about our chewing gums when you have a massive debt of $12T, high unemployment rates, economic and financial meltdown, 2 wars going on and a 3rd war looming.
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How do you consider yourself even remotely on topic? You are deflecting again. What does any of that have to do with individual liberty?
 
Panache said:
How do you consider yourself even remotely on topic? You are deflecting again. What does any of that have to do with individual liberty?
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Lets talk abt liberty now. Come and invade us like what you did in Iraq and Afghanistan and then install democracy and freedom. LMAO.
 
Your thinking is myopic. You can't be imposing on others and no system of government is perfect. Your system maybe good for you but may not be good for us or others. Systems are like software and nobody can copy. If you copy you will fail.
 
RDS said:
You talk about our chewing gums when you have a massive debt of $12T, high unemployment rates, economic and financial meltdown, 2 wars going on and a 3rd war looming. :rofl
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Tell ya what...

You go down to... oh what's that hotel that invented the Singapore Sling? Loved it, great time there btw, and you hold up a sign protesting your government's abuses of human rights.

I'll go down to the Federal Court House here in town and hold up a sign for an hour protesting MY government.

Let's see which of us is free tomorrow.
 
MrVicchio said:
Tell ya what...

You go down to... oh what's that hotel that invented the Singapore Sling? Loved it, great time there btw, and you hold up a sign protesting your government's abuses of human rights.

I'll go down to the Federal Court House here in town and hold up a sign for an hour protesting MY government.

Let's see which of us is free tomorrow.
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For your info there are 10s of 1000s of americans who live and work here. They all have a choice - abide by our laws or leave the country.
 
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