Business Owner says he will not do any business with Trump supporters.

[RetiredNSmilin]

Biz owner refuses to do business with Trump supporters | On Air Videos | Fox News

What about those who make cakes and arrange flowers?

The shoe is on the other foot this time, and I would like to see the eventual legal outcome of this.

1. How does he know who a Trump supporter is in the first place? It is not like they carry ID cards.

2. I voted for Trump, but held my nose when I did. I am NOT a supporter, but he might see me as one.

3. It has already been declared illegal for a business owner to discriminate against customers for a variety of reasons. Is VOTER PREFERENCE to be added to the list of RACE, SEX, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RELIGION, or NATIONAL ORIGIN?

I am sure some here will applaud this action, but if you do, then you do not see the downstream repercussions of it.

If he is allowed to get away with it, then another business owner could say they will not do business with those who voted for Hillary, and it would be fine.
Then another business owner could say they will not do business with any DEMOCRAT, and it would be OK.
Discriminating against DEMOCRATS or how a person voted is another backdoor stab at racial injustice.
All one has to do is say they are not doing business with them because of their voting preference, rather than because they are black, a woman, gay, or whatever.

If foolishness like this is allowed to stand, then all you need to do is paint over the old, NO COLOREDS ALLOWED, and replaces it with NO DEMOCRATS ALLOWED.

This guy is already saying NO TRUMP SUPPORTERS ALLOWED.
I hope he was a well funded legal defense war chest.

If anyone supports and approves of this, the gun of legal racial/sexual/political legislation may be pointed your way soon.

To me, this is naked, in-your-face discrimination for a person having a different political opinion as he.

A person's voting preference is a sacred right and a citizen's choice needs to be free of negative repercussions.

However, as the election was progressing, I learned there are scores of DP members who do not feel this way, and feel a person's choice of candidate is good reason to attack, insult, discriminate, and wish harm on them.

You know who you are.

 

[Skeptic Bob]

My position on this is pretty consistent whether we are talking about banning Republicans, Democrats, atheists, Christians, gays, straights or whoever.

Privately owned businesses that are not incorporated should be able to discriminate for whatever reason they want. Even stupid or bigoted reasons.

As for me? I would never patronize an establishment that discriminates based on such things.

 

[PirateMk1]

Freedom of association. They are to associate with whomever they like, and not associate with those they don't. I have no problems with anybody choosing whom they associate with.

 

[joG]

Why should he be expected to do business with disciples of Trump? Let him be a bigot and tell his other customers.

 

[joG]

My position on this is pretty consistent whether we are talking about banning Republicans, Democrats, atheists, Christians, gays, straights or whoever.

Privately owned businesses that are not incorporated should be able to discriminate for whatever reason they want. Even stupid or bigoted reasons.

As for me? I would never patronize an establishment that discriminates based on such things.

Not incorporated? Why the difference?

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Not incorporated? Why the difference?

Corporations have all sorts of government protections and benefits. So I have no problem with them having additional responsibilities in exchange.

 

[Orly?]

My position on this is pretty consistent whether we are talking about banning Republicans, Democrats, atheists, Christians, gays, straights or whoever.

Privately owned businesses that are not incorporated should be able to discriminate for whatever reason they want. Even stupid or bigoted reasons.

As for me? I would never patronize an establishment that discriminates based on such things.

Exactly, quit the protectionism and let the free market sort em out..

Discriminate away, we will see who is and is not still in business soon..

 

[reinoe]

Biz owner refuses to do business with Trump supporters | On Air Videos | Fox News

What about those who make cakes and arrange flowers?

The shoe is on the other foot this time, and I would like to see the eventual legal outcome of this.

1. How does he know who a Trump supporter is in the first place? It is not like they carry ID cards.

2. I voted for Trump, but held my nose when I did. I am NOT a supporter, but he might see me as one.

3. It has already been declared illegal for a business owner to discriminate against customers for a variety of reasons. Is VOTER PREFERENCE to be added to the list of RACE, SEX, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RELIGION, or NATIONAL ORIGIN?

I am sure some here will applaud this action, but if you do, then you do not see the downstream repercussions of it.

If he is allowed to get away with it, then another business owner could say they will not do business with those who voted for Hillary, and it would be fine.
Then another business owner could say they will not do business with any DEMOCRAT, and it would be OK.
Discriminating against DEMOCRATS or how a person voted is another backdoor stab at racial injustice.
All one has to do is say they are not doing business with them because of their voting preference, rather than because they are black, a woman, gay, or whatever.

If foolishness like this is allowed to stand, then all you need to do is paint over the old, NO COLOREDS ALLOWED, and replaces it with NO DEMOCRATS ALLOWED.

This guy is already saying NO TRUMP SUPPORTERS ALLOWED.
I hope he was a well funded legal defense war chest.

If anyone supports and approves of this, the gun of legal racial/sexual/political legislation may be pointed your way soon.

To me, this is naked, in-your-face discrimination for a person having a different political opinion as he.

A person's voting preference is a sacred right and a citizen's choice needs to be free of negative repercussions.

However, as the election was progressing, I learned there are scores of DP members who do not feel this way, and feel a person's choice of candidate is good reason to attack, insult, discriminate, and wish harm on them.

You know who you are.

It's his right. It's just not smart business. Now that the campaign season is over it's not like many people walk around with their campaign hats and shirts anymore. He might see a bumper sticker or two but that's it. Basically he's going to lose a lot more business than he gains.
It'shis

 

[ttwtt78640]

Corporations have all sorts of government protections and benefits. So I have no problem with them having additional responsibilities in exchange.

Many businesses are simply formed as LLCs so that the actions of a single moron employee cannot result in the loss of the business owner's personal assets. Who owns the business should not matter.

 

[TheGoverness]

Biz owner refuses to do business with Trump supporters | On Air Videos | Fox News

What about those who make cakes and arrange flowers?

The shoe is on the other foot this time, and I would like to see the eventual legal outcome of this.

1. How does he know who a Trump supporter is in the first place? It is not like they carry ID cards.

2. I voted for Trump, but held my nose when I did. I am NOT a supporter, but he might see me as one.

3. It has already been declared illegal for a business owner to discriminate against customers for a variety of reasons. Is VOTER PREFERENCE to be added to the list of RACE, SEX, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, RELIGION, or NATIONAL ORIGIN?

I am sure some here will applaud this action, but if you do, then you do not see the downstream repercussions of it.

If he is allowed to get away with it, then another business owner could say they will not do business with those who voted for Hillary, and it would be fine.
Then another business owner could say they will not do business with any DEMOCRAT, and it would be OK.
Discriminating against DEMOCRATS or how a person voted is another backdoor stab at racial injustice.
All one has to do is say they are not doing business with them because of their voting preference, rather than because they are black, a woman, gay, or whatever.

If foolishness like this is allowed to stand, then all you need to do is paint over the old, NO COLOREDS ALLOWED, and replaces it with NO DEMOCRATS ALLOWED.

This guy is already saying NO TRUMP SUPPORTERS ALLOWED.
I hope he was a well funded legal defense war chest.

If anyone supports and approves of this, the gun of legal racial/sexual/political legislation may be pointed your way soon.

To me, this is naked, in-your-face discrimination for a person having a different political opinion as he.

A person's voting preference is a sacred right and a citizen's choice needs to be free of negative repercussions.

However, as the election was progressing, I learned there are scores of DP members who do not feel this way, and feel a person's choice of candidate is good reason to attack, insult, discriminate, and wish harm on them.

You know who you are.

Discriminating against someone for who they are is always a dumb as **** thing to do in my book, be they Trump supporters, gays, LEO's, etc.

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

...and so it starts

first several members feel it is just fine to discriminate against those who voted for the guy you did not vote for......

...next it will be OK, to smash their windows or write TRUMP SUPPORTER in paint across them, over their paid advertising.

I can see Soros and his friends planning their own American CRYSTALNACHT right here, and having many members support it and give their approval.

...then, at some point, a gunshot will be heard by a business owner protecting his property against this politically induced violence.
a hooded attacker of his business will go down in a pool of blood. PS they are also black/gay/female/fill in the blank.

This hooded attacker will be made a martyr to the cause of all who hate Trump and the outcome of the 2016 election.

Repeated attacks will be made, and more blood will be spilt on both sides.

and intensive investigation will reveal the first shot that killed came from within the ranks of the rioters, but it will not be heard by millions who have already made up their minds of the need to "cleanse" the country of these evil Trump supporters as they burn, kill, and destroy.

The ghosts of MLK and JFK look down upon all this and weep.

It all started because some feel others have no right to vote or think differently than their "enlightened" selves.
Therefore is completely justified to discriminate against them in any way possible.
Feeling hating, insulting, discriminating against, and attacking the immoral TRUMP supporters is a sacrament.
Claiming MORAL SUPERIORITY in all they do.

Looking in any thick WORLD HISTORY book, you will see this repeated over and over again.
They always lose much more than they gain.

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

My position on this is pretty consistent whether we are talking about banning Republicans, Democrats, atheists, Christians, gays, straights or whoever.

Privately owned businesses that are not incorporated should be able to discriminate for whatever reason they want. Even stupid or bigoted reasons.

As for me? I would never patronize an establishment that discriminates based on such things.

Why should he be expected to do business with disciples of Trump? Let him be a bigot and tell his other customers.

It's his right. It's just not smart business. Now that the campaign season is over it's not like many people walk around with their campaign hats and shirts anymore. He might see a bumper sticker or two but that's it. Basically he's going to lose a lot more business than he gains.
It'shis

So then why all the judgments against the cake bakers and the florists?

The hypocrisy shown here is one reason why there is a growing anger in this country and why it needs to be quelled soon, of one day this powder keg will blow up over something silly and no one's fault.

The NO COLORED signs have now been replaced with the NO TRUMP SUPPORTERS sign, and several members here are OK with it.
This means nationally, many more are also OK with it.

The wall of division just got a few feet higher with this hypocrisy.
and the ANGER just got a few degrees hotter.
dismiss it and laugh at it at your peril.
Festering anger is not something that should be poked at.

This case is very black & white.

You people are now replacing the blacks of the 50's and 60's with the Trump Supporters of 2016.
Some of the fires are still smoldering from back then, and now you want to rekindle them.

Remember these words I now say on November 24th, 2016.
At some point in the next year or two, there will be a trigger incident that will engulf our nation in bitter bloodletting.
Historically, hatred at this level has never been cooled by anything else.
The extremes of your side refuses to accept the results of a fair election.
The extremes of your side refuses to obey rule of law, just like your leaders.
The extremes of your side feel they have moral superiority.

The extremes of your side feel it is fine to openly discriminate against anyone who voted differently than they.

This is the major difference between now and the past.
This is also completely intolerable in a free society.

Evidently, according to you guys, Trump Supporters are not entitled to be free from open and blatant discrimination, and you agree with it and say it is fine.

Do you smell those embers smoldering?

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

Discriminating against someone for who they are is always a dumb as **** thing to do in my book, be they Trump supporters, gays, LEO's, etc.

It IS exactly that simple.

 

[reinoe]

So then why all the judgments against the cake bakers and the florists?
?

The cake owners in Oregon were violating a state law. You know: state's rights and all that jazz?

2. Furthermore the cake owners in Oregon were also releasing private information about individuals.

STFU please. You clearly know nothing about why certain cases are different from one another and I say that as someone who has agreed with a lot of other things you've said this campaign. Please just stop and stfu. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

[KevinKohler]

Before you discriminate, do this mental excorsize.



In your head, substitute the word nigger.



"We refuse to serve Trump supports". Now, instead, say, "we refuse to serve nigger supporters".


That's what you're doing. Making and defining a new nigger.

Shame on you.

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

[/I]Pivately[/I] owned businesses that are not incorporated should be able to discriminate for whatever reason they want.

Why should he be expected to do business with disciples of Trump? Let him be a bigot and tell his other customers.

It's his right.

Can you hear your own words?
I had to check the header and make sure I was not at some KKK website?

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

Before you discriminate, do this mental excorsize.



In your head, substitute the word nigger.



"We refuse to serve Trump supports". Now, instead, say, "we refuse to serve nigger supporters".


That's what you're doing. Making and defining a new nigger.

Shame on you.

I said exactly that in the opening post and in number 12.

I am glad a few like you, the Governness, and others have open eyes and hearts.

 

[RetiredNSmilin]

The cake owners in Oregon were violating a state law. You know: state's rights and all that jazz?

2. Furthermore the cake owners in Oregon were also releasing private information about individuals.

STFU please. You clearly know nothing about why certain cases are different from one another and I say that as someone who has agreed with a lot of other things you've said this campaign. Please just stop and stfu. You're embarrassing yourself.

Two instances of you telling me to Shut the F**k Up (SHTF) in public.
You do realize this is NOT the Basement.
The complete lack of manners is all yours, though I doubt you are embarrassed by any of this behavior, but in the interest of the civility of this day, you should be.

 

[joG]

Corporations have all sorts of government protections and benefits. So I have no problem with them having additional responsibilities in exchange.

They shouldn't have the special protections and benefits. Correcting a wrong with another wrong is not the way to go.

 

[Mac77]

My position on this is pretty consistent whether we are talking about banning Republicans, Democrats, atheists, Christians, gays, straights or whoever.

[I]Privately[/I] owned businesses that are not incorporated should be able to discriminate for whatever reason they want. Even stupid or bigoted reasons.

As for me? I would never patronize an establishment that discriminates based on such things.

You have the best of both worlds with thst position since Christian conservative business owners have already been oppressed by the government

but it is unlikely that this liberal flake ever will

 

[VanceMack]

My position on this is pretty consistent whether we are talking about banning Republicans, Democrats, atheists, Christians, gays, straights or whoever.

Privately owned businesses that are not incorporated should be able to discriminate for whatever reason they want. Even stupid or bigoted reasons.

As for me? I would never patronize an establishment that discriminates based on such things.

Free markets have a tendency to correct things that need correcting.

 

[Crovax]

So then why all the judgments against the cake bakers and the florists?

The hypocrisy shown here is one reason why there is a growing anger in this country and why it needs to be quelled soon, of one day this powder keg will blow up over something silly and no one's fault.

The NO COLORED signs have now been replaced with the NO TRUMP SUPPORTERS sign, and several members here are OK with it.
This means nationally, many more are also OK with it.

The wall of division just got a few feet higher with this hypocrisy.
and the ANGER just got a few degrees hotter.
dismiss it and laugh at it at your peril.
Festering anger is not something that should be poked at.

This case is very black & white.

You people are now replacing the blacks of the 50's and 60's with the Trump Supporters of 2016.
Some of the fires are still smoldering from back then, and now you want to rekindle them.

Remember these words I now say on November 24th, 2016.
At some point in the next year or two, there will be a trigger incident that will engulf our nation in bitter bloodletting.
Historically, hatred at this level has never been cooled by anything else.
The extremes of your side refuses to accept the results of a fair election.
The extremes of your side refuses to obey rule of law, just like your leaders.
The extremes of your side feel they have moral superiority.

The extremes of your side feel it is fine to openly discriminate against anyone who voted differently than they.

This is the major difference between now and the past.
This is also completely intolerable in a free society.

Evidently, according to you guys, Trump Supporters are not entitled to be free from open and blatant discrimination, and you agree with it and say it is fine.

Do you smell those embers smoldering?

How far does it go though, should a business be forced to serve someone who comes in full nazi regalia?

I'm all for non discrimination to a certain degree but a business still has to have some discretion.

I run a retail store and I can tell you that I would ask someone dressed like a Nazi to leave.

 

[joG]

So then why all the judgments against the cake bakers and the florists?

The hypocrisy shown here is one reason why there is a growing anger in this country and why it needs to be quelled soon, of one day this powder keg will blow up over something silly and no one's fault.

The NO COLORED signs have now been replaced with the NO TRUMP SUPPORTERS sign, and several members here are OK with it.
This means nationally, many more are also OK with it.

The wall of division just got a few feet higher with this hypocrisy.
and the ANGER just got a few degrees hotter.
dismiss it and laugh at it at your peril.
Festering anger is not something that should be poked at.

This case is very black & white.

You people are now replacing the blacks of the 50's and 60's with the Trump Supporters of 2016.
Some of the fires are still smoldering from back then, and now you want to rekindle them.

Remember these words I now say on November 24th, 2016.
At some point in the next year or two, there will be a trigger incident that will engulf our nation in bitter bloodletting.
Historically, hatred at this level has never been cooled by anything else.
The extremes of your side refuses to accept the results of a fair election.
The extremes of your side refuses to obey rule of law, just like your leaders.
The extremes of your side feel they have moral superiority.

The extremes of your side feel it is fine to openly discriminate against anyone who voted differently than they.

This is the major difference between now and the past.
This is also completely intolerable in a free society.

Evidently, according to you guys, Trump Supporters are not entitled to be free from open and blatant discrimination, and you agree with it and say it is fine.

Do you smell those embers smoldering?

Of course the discrimination is the same against gays, blacks or trumpites. It is bigoted, but should be legal.
As a matter of fact, the Constitution forbids Congress from making laws to curtail the expression of such opinions.

 

[Mac77]

How far does it go though,

should a business be forced to serve someone who comes in full nazi regalia?

I'm all for non discrimination to a certain degree but a business still has to have some discretion.

I run a retail store and I can tell you that I would ask someone dressed like a Nazi to leave.

Absolutely

In terms of equal treatment there is no difference between a nazi and a homosexual

 

[Crovax]

Absolutely

In terms of equal treatment there is no difference between a nazi and a homosexual

Other than that 1 is a choice and 1 isnt....