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Simon W. Moon said:could we please have a citation for this assertion?
Simon W. Moon said:Do you have any evidence to suggest that it's likely to have that potential?
Surenderer said:My question is how reliable is information gained by a suspect that is being tortured? I mean wont anybody say anything to make the pain stop...true or untrue?Although I am Muslim I dont have the issues with torture that I guess some here do....I mean if the person is indeed guilty you cant really expect him to respond to questions by saying "please" do you? And if someone knows the crimes for murder or treason is torture and they do it anyway well then why should I feel sorry for them?
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Calm2Chaos said:Sounds like reasonable thinking to me
Middleground said:<snip>Marine Major Sherwood F. Moran, the report's author, noted that despite the complexities and difficulties of dealing with an enemy from such a hostile and alien culture, some American interrogators consistently managed to extract useful information from prisoners. The successful interrogators all had one thing in common in the way they approached their subjects. They were nice to them.<snip>
link: http://www.budiansky.com/atlantic0506.html
Calm2Chaos said:Wel good for being nice to them. And the ones that doesn't work with you get un-nice :lol:
Simon W. Moon said:Do you have any evidence to suggest that it's likely to have that potential?
It's also possible that the Great and Revered Invisible Pink Unicorn has single-handed thwarted every attempted attack.Navy Pride said:No I am to low on the totem pole for anyone to tell me but I do know we have not been attacked here since 9/11/01 so it is possible they might have extracted some good info by putting women's panties(and that is torture?) over some of those scumbags heads that prevented another attack.............
I have not yet made an assertion as to its efficacy. Hence there's no need for me to produce evidence yet.Calm2Chaos said:Do you have evidence that it isn't?
Navy Pride said:No I am to low on the totem pole for anyone to tell me but I do know we have not been attacked here since 9/11/01 so it is possible they might have extracted some good info by putting women's panties(and that is torture?) over some of those scumbags heads that prevented another attack.............
Simon W. Moon said:It's also possible that the Great and Revered Invisible Pink Unicorn has single-handed thwarted every attempted attack.
No, it's not torture.Navy Pride said:...putting women's panties(and that is torture?)...
cnredd said:Nope...asked him last night...He said he had nothing to do with it...
Have you forgotton already you f___ing hypocrit that the Administration used to quote Amnesty International when they supported their actions. Now, all of a sudden, when Amnesty speaks out against the Administrations lack of respect for human rights, they are now just a propaganda machine. C'mon. Grow up! How are we going to stop terrorism, when we, in fact, are some of the terrorists!Originally posted by aquapub:
Partisan hype. That is all this is topic is based on. Don't beleive everything you read. Consider the source. Bush approves of actually fighting our enemies. I know to liberals that seems like "destroying everything this country stood for," but Bill Clinton's eight-year non-response to Al Queda and Jimmy Carter's devastating, "kiss their ass until they break" strategy just don't cut it in a 9/11 world, so we will continue to use INTERNATIONALLY PRECEDENTED AND ACCEPTED INTERROGATION PRACTICES whether the unemployed (thank God) Democrats want to cry for our enemies (as always) from the sidelines or not. Democrat really need to stop regurgitating laughably biased Anti-American propaganda from Amnesty International. If liberals had any credibility left, they would be losing it in peddling this Disney Villain rhetoric against Bush.
Why leave out Reagan's idea to negiotiate with terrorists? He decided that the good idea was to knuckle under to their demands and sell them arms.aquapub said:...Bill Clinton's eight-year non-response to Al Queda and Jimmy Carter's devastating, "kiss their ass until they break" strategy...
Good. that's great. There's not been a problem with these. Well, except for the techniques ones that have been "INTERNATIONALLY PRECEDENTED AND ACCEPTED" by the likes of North Korea, Saudi Arabia, et al.aquapub said:...INTERNATIONALLY PRECEDENTED AND ACCEPTED INTERROGATION PRACTICES...
I suppose you have some unkind things to say about Genl Taguba and his patriotism as well?aquapub said:Democrat really need to stop regurgitating laughably biased Anti-American propaganda from Amnesty International.
Facts don't require credibility. Facts are true no matter who says them.aquapub said:If liberals had any credibility left, they would be losing it in peddling this Disney Villain rhetoric against Bush.
aquapub said:Bush approves of actually fighting our enemies. I know to liberals that seems like "destroying everything this country stood for,"...
gdalton said:It's my first post so I will go easy here.
People it's a WAR we are not having a tickle fight, people are dying on both sides so if smacking some guy upside the head a few hours a day until he gives us some useful info that might save someone’s life (especially when these people target innocent civilians in their attacks) then step aside and let me take a swing.
These people in "getmo" are treated with far more respect then they deserve as is, do you think that if you go to your local jail they are going to give you a copy of your holy book, a prayer rug and three meals a day that conform to you’re dietary beliefs.
Come on guy.
Kelzie said:First off, yes, local prisons do provide thoses things.
Second off. Torture is wrong. ALWAYS. I don't care if it's war or not. We're supposed to be the good guys.
gdalton said:Ok, sorry it's been a while since I visisted my local prison so you could be right and yes torture is wrong but even Buddha would kick your ass if he thought it would do more good then harm.
Deegan said:I could care less what they do to those animals, it's just common knowledge that toture does not work, thus it's just a waste of time, and it hurts our precious image in the world community. Now if you really want them to talk, you take their fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, etc, and you beat the s**t out of them untill they talk.
Deegan said:I could care less what they do to those animals, it's just common knowledge that toture does not work, thus it's just a waste of time, and it hurts our precious image in the world community. Now if you really want them to talk, you take their fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, etc, and you beat the s**t out of them untill they talk.
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