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Breaking: Israel launches 'preemptive strike' against Iran, declares state of emergency

cpwill said:
You reallyy should stop listening to stupid accounts.
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He highlights multiple articles going way back that kept claiming Iran was on the precipice of having nuclear weapons:

 
jaypatriot said:
I wonder if Saudi Arabia and the Emirates are going to step up their funding of whatever they think is the "Palestinian Cause". Iran will most likely not have the wherewithal going forward to keep Hamas, the Houthis, or Hezbollah alive and tormenting Israel.
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What do you think of Modi funding Putin’s war buying his oil?
How about Trump needing higher oil prices for ‘his’ oil workers.
Bibi starting another of his wars to stay in power helps his 🇷🇺 🇮🇱 🇮🇳 triangle
 
Questerr said:
So then why do you think Iran would use WMDs if they could?
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This is what I don't understand as well.

I think it's pretty obvious that if Iran used nukes against Isreal then not only would Isreal nuke them back but most likely the US would as well so they would be completely wiped from the map.
That's like me punching the wolrd heavyweight champion in the face and then thinking things will go really well from that point onwards.
I have a feeling things would go very badly for me.

Being the only few Iranians alive in a bunker somewhere in Iran is not what I'd call winning.
Surely they aren't that stupid?
 
Peter said:
This is what I don't understand as well.

I think it's pretty obvious that if Iran used nukes against Isreal then not only would Isreal nuke them back but most likely the US would as well so they would be completely wiped from the map.
That's like me punching the wolrd heavyweight champion in the face and then thinking things will go really well from that point onwards.
I have a feeling things would go very badly for me.

Being the only few Iranians alive in a bunker somewhere in Iran is not what I'd call winning.
Surely they aren't that stupid?
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Indeed. Nukes would just serve as a defensive deterrent like it does with everyone else.
 
Peter said:
This is what I don't understand as well.

I think it's pretty obvious that if Iran used nukes against Isreal then not only would Isreal nuke them back but most likely the US would as well so they would be completely wiped from the map.
That's like me punching the wolrd heavyweight champion in the face and then thinking things will go really well from that point onwards.
I have a feeling things would go very badly for me.

Being the only few Iranians alive in a bunker somewhere in Iran is not what I'd call winning.
Surely they aren't that stupid?
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This is where the Islamophobes point to suicide bombers as if Ayatollahs and Presidents carry out suicide bombings.
 
Where Iranian air defense? Not good for customers of Soviet hardware.
 
NOLA Dude said:
Are you saying they didn't claim all these times that Iran was close to having nuclear weapons?
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No. I'm saying that you should really stop listening to stupid sources (and liking posts featuring antisemitic conspiracy theories).

For example, the way you were given this list here:

NOLA Dude said:
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Strips these statements of their context, and ignores the fact that Israel and the US have been in a 20+ year covert effort to delay and disrupt that development, so as to put off today as long as possible. It tries to ignore that in order to give folks a deliberately wrong impression.


Well, that day is here, now, but, whoever gave you this list without the context of things like stuxnet and other semi-public efforts is either stupid themselves, or assumes that you are.


So that's why you should stop listening to those kinds of accounts, Nola. They make you look bad.


Tucker fan?
 
cpwill said:
No. I'm saying that you should really stop listening to stupid sources (and liking posts featuring antisemitic conspiracy theories).
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So it was accurate and I don’t care that you don't like it.

Pointing out that Israel and the US has been lying about Iran is about to havr nuclear weapons is antisemitic? That only works on dumb people.
cpwill said:
For example, the way you were given this list here:



Strips these statements of their context, and ignores the fact that Israel and the US have been in a 20+ year covert effort to delay and disrupt that development, so as to put off today as long as possible. It tries to ignore that in order to give folks a deliberately wrong impression.
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You can't even come up with a good excuse. Ignores context? Nope it's just lies similar to Sadamm had WMD.

You probably have some excuses why Israel hasn't really been committing genocide.

You aren't interested in context because I posted a clip that had plenty of context which you ignored:


cpwill said:
Well, that day is here, now, but, whoever gave you this list without the context of things like stuxnet and other semi-public efforts is either stupid themselves, or assumes that you are.
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Anyone with a brain and who isn't brainwashed by the military industrial complex knows that they have been lying about Iran for years. Russia and Iran are the military industrial complex favorite boogeymen to warrant sending more of our tax money for weapons and war.
cpwill said:
So that's why you should stop listening to those kinds of accounts, Nola. They make you look bad.


Tucker fan?
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You cant even back up your own arguments. You should stop shilling for Israel.
 
jaypatriot said:
If I thought you knew what the word "literally" means, I would explain to you in detail the plans of Iran for Israel.
There is no point in discussing this with you.
You are either Iranian, an anti-Semite, or a rabid Muslim dedicated to the destruction of Israel. Or all three.
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You’ve already admitted Iran wouldn’t nuke Israel because of MAD. Therefore, your entire narrative holds no water 😂
 
Desert Storm said:
There have been numerous riots and uprisings against the government in recent times.
Iranians in general want democracy. But the Islamic elite retains a strong grip of power.

Starting in 2017 here's a list of recent protests:
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A protest against Hijabs or inflation is not a "I hope the Little Satan and the Great Satan invade us!"
 
Chomsky said:
As somewhat terrifying as the above may be, I'm inclined to a agree with you.
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Even if Iran HAD nukes, they wouldn’t attack Israel because Israel has nukes. Or if the Iranians DID attack Israel, they’d get nuked themselves.

Mark
 
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