You seem to be making that argument . Is it not a human life to you? Please explain what its value is.
if there is a normal pregnancy there HAS TO BE a living human mother and a living human unborn. Biology 101
if you want to take it BEFORE that go for it ... and prove a baby in a petri dish is a baby? fantastic then it dang sure is during a pregnancy. Your arguments there, I don't dive into "before a pregnancy / is it life " discussions
It’s not a simple yes or no. If that one day old baby is suffering on a ventilator ? The killing it by removing life support might be the ethical thing to do.
I don’t go with the whole “ value of life”.
an extreme example but a normal healthy baby (which most abortions are) you'd not allow them killed. That's reasonable and normal.
all I have to do is prove the day before that baby is born its the same baby and that same value extends to it - that's logical and reasonable isn't it?
But if it’s in the womb according to you it is MORE important than anyone else’s life especially the mothers .
show me the post where I said that - I'll wait
Well actually that’s your premise. See if you and the government can decide that the baby is more important than the mother then you can force the mother to conceive , and to birth children ( which the nazis did) and conversely the government, (since according to you is the one that decides what’s the value of life,) the government can also force a woman to have an abortion.
See that’s the issue. Who has the choice? According to you the government should make the decision on whose life has value. And that means the government can force a woman to conceive and birth a child , or it can decide to force a woman to have an abortion because you believe government knows best.
ahhh see the bolded? that's exactly what society has decided - people's lives are valuable. You don't get to kill someone because they're an inconvenience to you and I don't get to and ... well, nobody gets to, do they?
why? whatever value that person has? its the same for 1 day before they're born too because literally its the same person. All things equal a 1 day old, a 100 day old, a 10 year old and a 70 year old all have the same value don't think? we don't rate people's lives on a value scale
except before birth - because Sanger and her Nazi buddies wanted to eliminate black people and minorities. They championed that - Democrats applauded it. Oddly enough, we still have most babies being loved when the pregnancies are discovered. They get prenatal care, families are ecstatic, have parties, gender reveals, DNA testing, names are given ...
what I'm saying is that an unborn baby's value shouldn't change on a woman's whim, wealth of mother, whether they are 1st baby or 3rd baby ..... just like after birth none of that factors into whether a life should live, right ?
I would like woman to have a choice to decide what’s best for them and the baby inside them
You sir would prefer the government made that choice.
ok then let women choose to kill them up until 3 years old
why not ? if the family is poor? kill the child and things will easier. Gets in the way of college? kill the child. Partying? kill the child. Maybe a divorce? kill the child
why not? remember legal/law doesn't change moral/ethics ..... and you and I wouldn't accept the above for a woman's children would we? I extend that to before birth, because its literally the same human life
do you see that argument?
and yes, I want the Govt and our society to protect human life - don't you ?
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