if there is a normal pregnancy there HAS TO BE
Well then you are saying that a fertilized egg is a living human.
if you want to take it BEFORE that go for it ...
See above. Isn’t that your argument that a fertilized egg in a Petri dish is a living human. ?
Please explain
fantastic then it dang sure is during a
Sure you do. You brought up life during pregnancy and value of life but then aren’t able to coherently articulate how those concepts work.
What is the worth of a fertilized egg.?
an extreme example but a normal healthy baby (which most abortions are) you'd not allow them
Sure. A normal health child outside the womb is not inside a mother and potentially causing her to die, be sterile, become paralyzed etc.
all I have to do is prove the day before that baby is born its the same baby and that same value extends to it - that's logical and reasonable isn't it?
Well first you have to explain how you measure this value . You toss out “ value of life” but gave no objective measure of it”.
Second you have to then explain why the value of the life of the baby inside the womb is more valuable than the value of the woman’s life that the baby effects
show me the post where I said that - I'll wait
Well, when you say that a woman shouldn’t have the choice to abort , it means that you value the life of the unborn more than the life etc of the mother.
You don't get to kill someone because they're an inconvenience to you and I don't get to
Sure they do. If a person is trying to kill you or cause grave bodily harm you certainly have a right to kill them.
In addition if a loved one is suffering on lifesupport you also have the right to kill them.
why? whatever value that person has? its the same for 1 day before they're born too because literally
So a fertilized egg has the same value as a 10 year old?
Interesting. So should a women who uses chemical birth control like the Pill or uses an iud be prosecuted for multiple murders for killing those 1day old fertilized eggs ( 1 day old babies) just like if she killed 12 10 year olds a year?
except before birth - because Sanger and her Nazi buddies wanted to eliminate black people and minorities.
Yes. And they wanted good german girls to conceive good aryan babies for them.
So women were forced to conceive and have babies for the reich.
Since the state was the ultimate decider of value.
They championed that - Democrats applauded.
So?
what I'm saying is that an unborn baby's value shouldn't change on a woman's whim,
Well you have to explain this “ babies value” thing.
I do not think a women should be convicted of murder because she uses an iud or a chemical birth control that kills a fertilized egg by preventing it from implanting.
I don’t see that a fertilized egg is the same as a 10 year old.
So you explain why they are exactly the same.
ok then let women choose to kill them up until 3 years old
That’s interesting. Why do you believe that?
I certainly didn’t suggest it.
why not ? if the family is poor? kill the child and things will easier. Gets in the way of college? kill the child. Partying? kill the child. Maybe a divorce? kill the child
Who is suggesting that? Not me.
why not? remember legal/law doesn't change moral/ethics ..... and you and I wouldn't accept the above for a woman's children would we?
Well because once the child is borne , they become an autonomous individual capable of being tgeir own individual.
I extend that to before birth, because its literally the same human life
If so , then when do we start arresting g women who use birth control for murder.
If not why not since killing a fertilized egg is the same as killing a 10 year
and yes, I want the Govt and our society to protect human life - don't you ?
No . I do not want it to protect human life.
That would mean that I could not remove my mother from lifesupport when she is suffering g. It would mean that I could not defend myself from a person trying to kill me. Etc.