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Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun will step down at end of 2024

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Why the rush????
 
Rumpel said:
Will that help?
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I don't know whether Calhoun bears personal responsibility for the latest F*ups, or was simply not up the the job of fixing the existing F*ups that led to these. He obviously was not the man for the job, and NO bean counter will be. Boeing management needs a complete clean out.
 
coyote505 said:
I don't know whether Calhoun bears personal responsibility for the latest F*ups, or was simply not up the the job of fixing the existing F*ups that led to these. He obviously was not the man for the job, and NO bean counter will be. Boeing management needs a complete clean out.
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Some more managers should go … maybe …
 
coyote505 said:
I don't know whether Calhoun bears personal responsibility for the latest F*ups, or was simply not up the the job of fixing the existing F*ups that led to these. He obviously was not the man for the job, and NO bean counter will be. Boeing management needs a complete clean out.
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Their crap has been a long time coming. It happened when they merged with McDonald-Douglas and changed their business model from one of relying on a safety reputation to cutting costs and outsourcing as much as possible.

 
Calhoun joined Boeing in early 2020 as it struggled to recover from two deadly crashes.
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I mean, I guess if you don't count the eleven years before that he was serving on the Board of Directors, including as its chairman.
 
poweRob said:
Their crap has been a long time coming. It happened when they merged with McDonald-Douglas and changed their business model from one of relying on a safety reputation to cutting costs and outsourcing as much as possible.

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The Oliver piece is a Must Watch.
 
He should be marched to prison. These bloodsucking parasites are literally killing people.
 
What is happening at Boeing is happening in every industry.
A general trend toward financialisation and hedge fund culture that sees only numbers, not peoples lives or wellbeing.
It's just that aviation has a way of making the corruption impossible to hide.
It's the dead canary.

It is definitely happening at Chrysler, now STELLANTIS, which is Euro-babble for
"A bunch of greedy vultures who want to drain as much equity from the assets as they can."
 
His golden parachute will no doubt comfort him.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
What is happening at Boeing is happening in every industry.
A general trend toward financialisation and hedge fund culture that sees only numbers, not peoples lives or wellbeing.
It's just that aviation has a way of making the corruption impossible to hide.
It's the dead canary.

It is definitely happening at Chrysler, now STELLANTIS, which is Euro-babble for
"A bunch of greedy vultures who want to drain as much equity from the assets as they can."
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We saw it with trains that went off the rails and a train union screaming they were being overworked and short staffed.

All because corporate management needed to increase profit margins.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Boeing is the most perfect cautionary tale of unfettered capitalism and short sighted thinking.
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A virtual monopoly in the sense that they're the only US-based commercial aircraft manufacturer. One half the company is a critical element of the MIC and the other half is fodder for protectionism.
 
coyote505 said:
I don't know whether Calhoun bears personal responsibility for the latest F*ups, or was simply not up the the job of fixing the existing F*ups that led to these. He obviously was not the man for the job, and NO bean counter will be. Boeing management needs a complete clean out.
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Management?

My first direct experience with an air frame disaster was the CH47 'A model' that lost a blade in Germany with a whole bunch of parachutists on the aircraft. Oddly, just a few weeks after that I actually had to get an 'A' model bird off a field that was flooding, in an emergency save of that aircraft, even though we were technically not supposed to be flying that bird.

My point is, in aviation history we have had a whole bunch of these:

en.wikipedia.org

List of aircraft structural failures - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Oh yes, and over the years Boeing has had their problems, too.

My point in this post?

Broaden the scope of the discussion to broaden the scope of the learning. No good point comes of focusing a discussion such as this on one human and one series of failures in one air frame.
 
poweRob said:
Their crap has been a long time coming. It happened when they merged with McDonald-Douglas and changed their business model from one of relying on a safety reputation to cutting costs and outsourcing as much as possible.

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I just don't understand why folks keeping trying to offer that cost-cutting and outsourcing is some sort of new economic model for any corporation in any industry.

"Changed their business model", eh?

Where do you think that "business model" has been taught? And for how long?

Either a whole bunch of you folks are blind to the facts of life over the past 100 years or so, or you are terribly uneducated.
 
medi said:
I just don't understand why folks keeping trying to offer that cost-cutting and outsourcing is some sort of new economic model for any corporation in any industry.
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Me either.
medi said:
"Changed their business model", eh?
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Yes. They changed their business mode.
medi said:
Where do you think that "business model" has been taught? And for how long?
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Red herring to my post.
medi said:
Either a whole bunch of you folks are blind to the facts of life over the past 100 years or so, or you are terribly uneducated.
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Ad hom from out of nowhere for no apparent reason. Great job! :LOL:
 
He will probably demand that his golden parachute be manufactured by a company other than Boeing.
 
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