No. It is basic math. Wanna figure it out yourself or do you need me to show you that 13% of the population is represented by 23% in SCOTUS?Or maybe they're just compensating for the shortfall in Republican appointments?
Well, that doesn't work for me. I'd say the do over is yours. If you can't answer the post, take the high road and skip it.Great Red Herring... except when it is obvious it really wasn't that great to begin with... wanna try again?
For ****s sake... read better. Nobody said that white people are getting ripped off. I said that @post was ripping on white people.Having a government that represents ALL of America isn't ripping white people.
That is by employing equality... not by stacking the decks in the other direction... for ****'s sake, I see this illogic every day and it drives me crazy.But having a government that didn't play fair over the last hundred years by giving that opportunity to ALL Americans is ripping the rest of us.
Time to make up for lost time.
Looking at the percentage that are conservative, you are a very lucky person to know so many. I mean 90% of black people voted Dem in the 2020 election.It would be intertesting to see numbers by government subsidies. I know plenty of well off blacks, and the are anything but democrat.
You commit a logical fallacy and your retort to my pointing it out is that it doesn't work for you? LOLWell, that doesn't work for me. I'd say the do over is yours.
I answered the post. Your post was a RED HERRING.If you can't answer the post, take the high road and skip it.
Right, but black Democrats, for the most part, aren't the ones out there agitating to defund the police and shut down the schools. That's the wealthy white progressive wing of the party.I'm sorry but this is a crock of shit. The majority of black people are Democrats, they don't need to get white Dems to do anything for them, they can do it for themselves in this party.
Right.The Dems actually need their votes. That's the big difference.
But that's exactly what I'm talking about. A lot of black voters don't care that much about so-called "black issues." They are concerned with the same things everyone else is...inflation, the economy, COVID, their kid's schools, etc.Now, conservatives don't. So black conservatives just find what they like about it, and join but they aren't going to introduce any "black" issues. Not enough black people in the party to get it done and they know this.
Obviously.For ****s sake... read better. Nobody said that white people are getting ripped off. I said that @post was ripping on white people.
That is by employing equality... not by stacking the decks in the other direction... for ****'s sake, I see this illogic every day and it drives me crazy.
Where did you get your information, that for the most part whites are out there demanding black issues with the police department? I'll need a link or two for that. Democrats support black, Hispanic, Latino's, women's, issues all the time. Because the Democrat party isn't 90% white.Right, but black Democrats, for the most part, aren't the ones out there agitating to defund the police and shut down the schools. That's the wealthy white progressive wing of the party.
Right.
But that's exactly what I'm talking about. A lot of black voters don't care that much about so-called "black issues." They are concerned with the same things everyone else is...inflation, the economy, COVID, their kid's schools, etc.
Perfect example. Black Democrats in great numbers asked Biden to appoint more representation of them to government positions because the representation falls short. He needs their vote, and got it, and now he's doing just that.
So, you're a white person just curious about black people? Give me a ****ing break. If you want to know how black people feel, ask them, a bunch of white people won't be giving you the correct answers.You commit a logical fallacy and your retort to my pointing it out is that it doesn't work for you? LOL
I answered the post. Your post was a RED HERRING.
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Look that shit up and look less stupid.
So you ask men about how they feel about abortion or custody? I doubt it based off of your directional dictation.So, you're a white person just curious about black people? Give me a ****ing break. If you want to know how black people feel, ask them, a bunch of white people won't be giving you the correct answers.
C+ students would assume as muchThis thread is just negative hype for conservative whites. Wow, original.
Neither. It is a debate site... not a whine fest cry baby site. Sometimes people need to be objective. Try it out.Obviously.
What's the point of this stupid thread? Are you black? Or just a Republican?
I agree. He dealt with minority issues more than most.Plus, it doesn't hurt that it's the right thing to do.
You know, out of the percentage numbers I put up earlier, I actually feel like Bush, Jr.'s numbers in appointing African American Circuit Court Judges are the most impressive... it may be a lower percentage than any of the Democrats, but think of how much smaller the pool of Black Republicans legal experts he had to choose from was from Black Democratic legal experts. For Bush to hit that 10% figure, he had to make a conscious effort to reach out beyond his supporters. You see that with the case of Judge Gregory that I highlighted - a Clinton appointee who he could have easily let his appointment lapse and appoint someone else... but he didn't. Instead, he reached out and re-nominated him... because it was the right thing to do.
That was one of the ongoing themes I noticed about the Bush Administration... he was always trying to reach out to African Americans and Hispanics and Asians. His immigration reform proposals, for instance - it incorporated amnesty, guest workers, path to citizenship... but also beefed up border security. Tough but fair. To me, that was the most sensible approach to the problem that I've seen from any President on either side of the aisle.
Why is the percentage that Democrats choose the correct percentage?II actually feel like Bush, Jr.'s numbers in appointing African American Circuit Court Judges are the most impressive... it may be a lower percentage than any of the Democrats,
F - students could figure out as much. Shit, if this isn't fodder for white conservatives, than you aren't trolling for click bate.So you ask men about how they feel about abortion or custody? I doubt it based off of your directional dictation.
C+ students would assume as much
Neither. It is a debate site... not a whine fest cry baby site. Sometimes people need to be objective. Try it out.
LOL I say C- students could and your response is that F- students could as well... my god, how over your head are you? That is rhetorical. You would not knw.F - students could figure out as much. Shit, if this isn't fodder for white conservatives, than you aren't trolling for click bate.
So this isn't exactly what you asked for, but here's Pew's poll from a few months ago about how Americans feel about defunding the police. It's horrendously unpopular across the board, including among black voters. More black voters want to increase police funding than decrease it.Where did you get your information, that for the most part whites are out there demanding black issues with the police department? I'll need a link or two for that.
I think the fallacy is assuming that black/Latino/women's issues are things like defunding the police, immigration policy, and abortion respectively. Whereas most voters just care about the same handful of boring issues regardless of their identity group.Democrats support black, Hispanic, Latino's, women's, issues all the time. Because the Democrat party isn't 90% white.
Sure, but people wildly overestimate how much weight voters actually place on identity politics. If a politician of either party wants to win more black votes, they'll probably have a lot more success talking about what they'll do about inflation and COVID, than by talking about affirmative action and Confederate statues.A lot of black voters care about a lot of things, just like white voters but there are issues that white voters don't have to think about, but black voters do.
I don't know where you got the idea I thought it was racist/sexist.There are black specific issues. It's not racist to white people to have race specific issues. It's not sexist to men to have women specific issues. It's just true.
For black people? Why do you think? Don't you have a black friend you can chat with?Why is the percentage that Democrats choose the correct percentage?
You know, when a poster wakes up and thinks, hm....I'll ask a bunch of white people if they think black Republicans are traitors. Then I'll argue with them all day from my white perspective. We can all talk about black people and how they feel, like we know.LOL I say C- students could and your response is that F- students could as well... my god, how over your head are you? That is rhetorical. You would not knw.
Why is the percentage that Democrats choose the correct percentage?
Like I said... your post was that of a C- student...For black people? Why do you think? Don't you have a black friend you can chat with?
You know, when a poster wakes up and thinks, hm....I'll ask a bunch of white people if they think black Republicans are traitors. Then I'll argue with them all day from my white perspective. We can all talk about black people and how they feel, like we know.
That's the thing about conservatives, they have NO IDEA and when they don't, they ask white people. LMAO. But, the writings on the wall for a poster with half a brain. There's a clear reason most black people are DEMOCRATS. Those numbers would be good enough for a first grader to figure out that the Democratic party is doing something black people prefer. Not all, but most.
Agreed...I'm not saying that it is.... but I know it's got to be higher than the numbers Reagan, Bush (41), and especially Trump rang up. Let's face it... they were all going out of their way not to nominate Black Judges. Especially Reagan and Trump. 1/83? 0/54?? C'mon. That's going out of your way to offend African Americans.
Hell, in some alternate reality, George Wallace could have been elected President in '68 and I'd bet even he would have found fit to appoint a token African American Circuit Court Judge.
BLM, isn't a white progressive organization, and that's who initiated de-funding the police. Regardless of white support. It's not about actually de-funding police anyway.So this isn't exactly what you asked for, but here's Pew's poll from a few months ago about how Americans feel about defunding the police. It's horrendously unpopular across the board, including among black voters. More black voters want to increase police funding than decrease it.
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Growing share of Americans say they want more spending on police in their area
Amid mounting public concern about violent crime in the U.S., Americans’ attitudes about police funding in their own community have shifted.www.pewresearch.org
I think the fallacy is assuming that black/Latino/women's issues are things like defunding the police, immigration policy, and abortion respectively. Whereas most voters just care about the same handful of boring issues regardless of their identity group.
Sure, but people wildly overestimate how much weight voters actually place on identity politics. If a politician of either party wants to win more black votes, they'll probably have a lot more success talking about what they'll do about inflation and COVID, than by talking about affirmative action and Confederate statues.
I don't know where you got the idea I thought it was racist/sexist.
Like I said, your thread get's an F from me. Even Steven and all that elementary jazz you seem to be into.Like I said... your post was that of a C- student...
OK but there are activist groups for everything: political and media figures chose to elevate this and make this a priority.BLM, isn't a white progressive organization, and that's who initiated de-funding the police. Regardless of white support.
If you need an entire webpage and 4-minute video to explain that a three-word slogan means something other than what it obviously sounds like, then the issue is already a lost cause. Don't call it defund the police if you don't actually want to defund the police.It's not about actually de-funding police anyway.
I think if we could visually look at some voters in the 90th percentile for how much they care about defunding the police, Confederate statues, affirmative action, etc. We would find a lot more white faces than black faces.They aren't issues for ALL minority groups, but those who represent the majority in those groups present those issues. White people aren't making them up for minorities. Men aren't making them up for women. This kind of discussion is two sided. As a woman, I don't find it correct that liberal men are bringing up issues that I don't care about to gain votes for the left. They're not, they are just supporting them. There's a difference.
Maybe on the margins. I'm sure there are some black people who care about those things and vote accordingly. But the reason the black vote is so lopsided (usually about 90-10) is twofold in my view: 1) Republicans saying blatantly racist shit, 2) Democrats being seen as the party of funding good government services.Candidates cover blanket issues, of course, but there are gender and race specific issues that the Democrats cover more than Republicans and that's just the truth, and it does make a difference in their support from these groups.
They'll need to win more votes from people of color, that's true. But I'm pretty skeptical that the path to doing that is to talk more about identity politics.It's really just a numbers game. There's no argument to be had. Conservative simple don't have a foot in the game when it comes to minorities for the reasons I listed. As America get's less white, they'll have to change that.
Agreed...
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