Bernstein: Trump ‘is boxed in by Mueller’

[JMR]

I'm not sure how to answer your question but I agree it appears there were some campaign finance violations, but intent will have to be proven for them to stick.
Trump may simply argue he was hiding these affairs from his wife. They need more corroboration than Cohen who would say anything to the NY prosecutors to save his own skin.

He could argue that, but then he would be lying. And it appears you are fine and dandy with that. Don't forget, Cohen has plenty of tapes and documents for "corroboration."

 

[Deuce]

Bernstein,'this is worse than Watergate', is a CNN hack...
Where's Bernstein's evidence?
Presently, there is no evidence of collusion with Russia.

La la la can't hear you.

 

[foolardi]

Bernstein is a Joke.Constantly using his abject hatred of Trump in
order to validate his pathetic attempt at Polemics.Can't write fer crap.
At least Bob Woodward wrote some very interesting books.
I've read most of Woodwards books.
Plus what's with this little chubby jew { Bernstein } and those white
eye glasses.And his 70's Thick neckties.We learned in the last few years how
Woodward & Bernstein had a lot of help { secret CIA undercover guy plus others }
in unravelling Watergate.

 

[Cardinal]

Not even certain, at this point, it would appear, that there were campaign finance violations, and if so, hasn't the standard been paying a fine?

If the Presidential candidate wasn't aware of the campaign finance violations and didn't order someone to carry them out, then yes, a simple fine is likely how this would have ended.

 

[dobieg]

If the Presidential candidate wasn't aware of the campaign finance violations and didn't order someone to carry them out, then yes, a simple fine is likely how this would have ended.

And what if it was similar to John Edwards campaign finance violations?


Gosh, it sort of sucks to have that precedence doesn't it?

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Bernstein,'this is worse than Watergate', is a CNN hack...
Where's Bernstein's evidence?
Presently, there is no evidence of collusion with Russia.

Just everyone around him secretly talking to Russia and then lying about it. Trump leaving a man in as National Security Adviser for over 2 weeks after he was told he was compromised by a foreign adversarial government. Near countless examples of violations of the emoluments clause, as well as numerous examples of witness tampering and obstruction of justice by Trump himself, but you are right, you can count on Trump to regularly stop fellating Putin long enough to say "no collusion".

 

[Deuce]

And what if it was similar to John Edwards campaign finance violations?


Gosh, it sort of sucks to have that precedence doesn't it?

And if it wasn't?

 

[Cardinal]

And what if it was similar to John Edwards campaign finance violations?


Gosh, it sort of sucks to have that precedence doesn't it?

Which is...what? That Trump should be tried in a court of law? I agree!

 

[dobieg]

Which is...what? That Trump should be tried in a court of law? I agree!

You guys keep talking impeachment and prison even though absolutely nothing happened to John Edwards for the very same thing.


Keep pretending this is somehow different.


My God the hypocrisy from you liberals is outstanding.

 

[Cardinal]

You guys keep talking impeachment and prison even though absolutely nothing happened to John Edwards for the very same thing.


Keep pretending this is somehow different.


My God the hypocrisy from you liberals is outstanding.

Do you want to follow the Edwards precedent and have trump tried in a court of law or not?

 

[ttwtt78640]

You guys keep talking impeachment and prison even though absolutely nothing happened to John Edwards for the very same thing.


Keep pretending this is somehow different.


My God the hypocrisy from you liberals is outstanding.

A losing POTUS candidate of the preferred party is not "the same thing" as a sitting POTUS of the non-preferred party. Much like "extremely careless" is not the same thing as "grossly negligent" - one is (can be called?) just a mistake (error in judgement?) and the other is a criminal offense.

 

[tres borrachos]

And what if it was similar to John Edwards campaign finance violations?


Gosh, it sort of sucks to have that precedence doesn't it?

So you're suggesting that Donald J. Trump be indicted by a Grand Jury on 6 felony charges, like Edwards was? Good idea.

 

[Deuce]

You guys keep talking impeachment and prison even though absolutely nothing happened to John Edwards for the very same thing.


Keep pretending this is somehow different.


My God the hypocrisy from you liberals is outstanding.

Edwards was placed on trial. Do you not think due process is important?

 

[MTAtech]

Pence is neck deep in the issues involving the Russia probe, and will never see a day as POTUS.

Goodie, President Pelosi.

 

[MTAtech]

Thus far, SDNY has done more damage than Mueller with the two incidents of potential campaign finance violations, imo.

But Mueller is being more methodical and building a public case, week by week.

See my post here

 

[trixare4kids]

Just everyone around him secretly talking to Russia and then lying about it. Trump leaving a man in as National Security Adviser for over 2 weeks after he was told he was compromised by a foreign adversarial government. Near countless examples of violations of the emoluments clause, as well as numerous examples of witness tampering and obstruction of justice by Trump himself, but you are right, you can count on Trump to regularly stop fellating Putin long enough to say "no collusion".

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Doesn't change my last sentence in my post above.
YMMV though...

 

[Cardinal]

Pence is neck deep in the issues involving the Russia probe, and will never see a day as POTUS.

To my knowledge, Pence's only political exposure was in knowingly letting somebody he was warned was an unregistered foreign agent get to be National Security Adviser. And yes, he lied about not knowing. So he's a scumbag to be sure, and perhaps in earlier administrations that would have been enough to cause him to resign. But there needs to be more than that for a third party to prevent him from ascending to the throne.

But if you know more than me I'm certainly curious.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

To my knowledge, Pence's only political exposure was in knowingly letting somebody he was warned was an unregistered foreign agent get to be National Security Adviser. And yes, he lied about not knowing. So he's a scumbag to be sure, and perhaps in earlier administrations that would have been enough to cause him to resign. But there needs to be more than that for a third party to prevent him from ascending to the throne.

But if you know more than me I'm certainly curious.

Surely. https://www.politicususa.com/2018/1...cZy05QE3lBD-26zVSsVqq0LpOh1EQx9F8r7gdt4D0mfQU

 

[apdst]

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/420462-bernstein-trump-is-boxed-in-by-mueller

Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein said Sunday that President Trump has been cornered for the first time in his life.

"He is boxed in by Mueller and the people around him know that he is and it's on the question of ... possible collusion with Russia and unquestionably a massive obstruction of justice that is now demonstrable for all to see, led by the president of the United States to cover up whatever the dealings of himself, his family, his aides were with Russia," Bernstein told CNN's "Reliable Sources" Sunday, following several bombshell legal filings last week by Robert Mueller's special counsel team regarding people close to the president.
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I have a lot of respect for Bernstein's opinion because of the great job he & Woodward did on the Watergate disaster that brought down a President.

Now, all they need is an actual crime.

 

[Kreton]

And Nixon knew nothing about the Watergate break in too.

You trumpsters really must hate Mike Pence. If trump leaves office, Pence will become President. But you trumpsters DON'T WANT PENCE.

Kinda funny cos Pence has the sort of far right conservative values that you republicans supposedly cherish. For eg. I can't recall Pence ever committing adultery or porking a porn star and paying her $130K to keep quiet about it.

Gotta love the "no evidence" argument that Trumps worshippers spew. There have been indictments, convictions, and admissions. Dozens of people close to Trump have all supplied evidence to the investigation. Trump demands that law enforcement not investigate him. He demands that those who know him not cooperate. Speaking to law enforcement is a betrayal.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Let me know if real evidence of Russian collusion is substantiated, not if some journalist with an axe to grind claims anything.

That's precisely where the "Moscow Trump Tower" investigation is going.

Trump would have made hundreds of millions of dollars. Putin would have gained political leverage over Mr. Trump.

The project never materialized for Mr. Trump. But since candidate/president Trump hushed up all talk of the MTT negotiations extending past February 2016, Putin still maintained his political leverage.

But now it was political leverage over a US president rather than over a greedy US businessman.

 

[Cardinal]

Surely. https://www.politicususa.com/2018/1...cZy05QE3lBD-26zVSsVqq0LpOh1EQx9F8r7gdt4D0mfQU

Leo Vidal of PoliticusUSA states:

"Special Counsel Mueller released his heavily redacted 13-page sentencing memo for Michael Flynn on Tuesday night, he did NOT redact one key piece of information. The memo clearly states that the Trump transition team was heavily involved in Flynn’s illegal dealings with Russia."

But the only reference I can find to the transition team in Flynn's sentencing memorandum is this:

"The Post story queried whether the defendant’s actions violated the Logan Act, which prohibits U.S. citizens from corresponding with a foreign government with the intent to influence the conduct of that foreign government regarding disputes with the United States. See 18 U.S.C. § 953. Subsequent to the publication of the Post article and prior to the defendant’s FBI interview, members of President-Elect Trump’s transition team publicly stated that they had spoken to the defendant, and that he denied speaking to the Russian ambassador about the sanctions. See, e.g., Face the Nation transcript January 15, 2017: Pence, Manchin, Gingrich, CBS NEWS (Jan. 15, 2017). When the FBI interviewed the defendant on January 24 about his interactions with the Russian ambassador, the defendant falsely stated that he did not ask the Russian ambassador to refrain from escalating the situation in response to the sanctions, and falsely disclaimed any memory of his subsequent conversation with the ambassador in which the ambassador stated that Russia had acceded to the defendant’s request."

https://www.vox.com/2018/12/4/18126388/mueller-michael-flynn-sentencing-memo-read

PoliticusUSA is speculating that because Mueller has emails from the transition team, then that must mean he has evidence that the transition team committed crimes. This is a highly irresponsible leap in logic.

If I was the lead editor for PoliticusUSA I would be embarrassed to have allowed this to go online.

 

[uptower]

If I was the lead editor for PoliticusUSA I would be embarrassed to have allowed this to go online.

If I were the editor at Fox I'd be talking nonstop about Hillary Clinton right now...

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Leo Vidal of PoliticusUSA states:

"Special Counsel Mueller released his heavily redacted 13-page sentencing memo for Michael Flynn on Tuesday night, he did NOT redact one key piece of information. The memo clearly states that the Trump transition team was heavily involved in Flynn’s illegal dealings with Russia."

But the only reference I can find to the transition team in Flynn's sentencing memorandum is this:

"The Post story queried whether the defendant’s actions violated the Logan Act, which prohibits U.S. citizens from corresponding with a foreign government with the intent to influence the conduct of that foreign government regarding disputes with the United States. See 18 U.S.C. § 953. Subsequent to the publication of the Post article and prior to the defendant’s FBI interview, members of President-Elect Trump’s transition team publicly stated that they had spoken to the defendant, and that he denied speaking to the Russian ambassador about the sanctions. See, e.g., Face the Nation transcript January 15, 2017: Pence, Manchin, Gingrich, CBS NEWS (Jan. 15, 2017). When the FBI interviewed the defendant on January 24 about his interactions with the Russian ambassador, the defendant falsely stated that he did not ask the Russian ambassador to refrain from escalating the situation in response to the sanctions, and falsely disclaimed any memory of his subsequent conversation with the ambassador in which the ambassador stated that Russia had acceded to the defendant’s request."

https://www.vox.com/2018/12/4/18126388/mueller-michael-flynn-sentencing-memo-read

PoliticusUSA is speculating that because Mueller has emails from the transition team, then that must mean he has evidence that the transition team committed crimes. This is a highly irresponsible leap in logic.

If I was the lead editor for PoliticusUSA I would be embarrassed to have allowed this to go online.

Perhaps, but you'll notice the term 'hints' used.

That said, Pence has a long history of lying, publicly, about numerous critical things in the Trump campaign/Mueller investigation, like whether or not they were in contact and working with Wikileaks, or what the reason was behind the firing of Comey when he had apparently been read Trump's initial screed before McGahn rejected it, among other things. He's publicly called for the probe to be ended. He knew about Flynn from a letter from Cummings and lied about, too. It just keeps adding up.

That, given what we now know to be the laughable, unparalleled incompetency of the Trump admin and campaign/transition teams, the likelihood that he remains aloof and apart from what we're now finding more out about w/every passing day seems very small.

 

[Carleen]

I'll believe when I read it, and until then you're just speculating.

Everyone here is just speculating. Mueller holds all the cards and he is keeping them up his sleeve until he is done. Time will tell.