Bernie is not ready for what's coming

[Praxas]

If Bernie is serious about wanting to be the nominee he needs to go all out after Biden, not Trump but Biden. Biden is the enemy right now and if he can't beat Biden he doesn't have to worry about Trump. Biden is hugely vulnerable, his gaffes and his cognitive question marks are glaring if Bernie wants to win. If he doesn't go after him then he is just hoping Biden screws up on his on. Democrats will be covering for sleepy Joe. He is probably reading through the debate questions now.

Why should anyone listen to a Trump supporter about what Biden and Bernie should do? Oh yeah, no one should.

 

[NeverTrump]

538 gives Joe Biden 88% chance of wining the nomination. Bernie's window is shrinking.

 

[Jredbaron96]

Jesus Christ that OP was painful to read.

If we're really going to hedge all our bets on a gaffe machine that forgets what he's running for and will likely embarrass himself during the debate, we really are putting our country on the line.

 

[bomberfox]

Biden just engrossed, Mayor Pete's and Bloomberg's entire political operations. They are full of younger, smarter, and moderate democrats who realize that Bernie has no plans to get things done. Hence, why they didn't and aren't joining his campaign. Do you see expose's about how terrible it was to work for Bloomberg or Mayor Pete and huge swaths of them going over to Bernie's campaign? Nope. Not a one!! And I'm rather surprised but happy about that. Plus I'd imagine they are true democrats who don't want to see the party burn to the ground. These are new people to politics (and I assume some Clinton people) who Bernie failed to reach because he was too radical already and hence they chose to work on other campaigns and not his. This is what I've been telling Bernie supporters this entire year. There were 20 other people in the race at one point and each of them had political organizations that did not fit your viewpoints, whatsoever! Democrats are well aware of who Bernie is, he just never changed his messaging to reach the majority of them.

The fact that Mayor Pete and Bloomberg each got 20-30% of democrats to vote for them in various states, means that Bernie made no inroads into his support in the last 4 years. He didn't build up his base and as he begins this latest line of ad attacks and frankly stealing Biden's ideas (which he started before March btw) will go down in flames. Bloomberg spent millions on a similar strategy and while he didn't attack Joe, he is now backing him and already made attack ads against Bernie. Clinton didn't seem to attack Bernie or Trump hard enough, Biden already has the people who will!

There have been HUGE calls to unite around Joe Biden so we can stick to attacking Trump. While currently, Sanders does have some path to the nomination, the polls do not look kind for his future. It won't be long before Sanders drops like a rock. I'm guessing teens by the time he drops out. Which could be sooner rather than later.

Wait bloomberg was a true democrat?:lamo im happy to alienate that skid mark.

 

[Winston]

If Bernie said trump had some good education polices. Would you still be saying the same?


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If Trump had some good policies yes.

That's what separates hacks from reflective people


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[jmotivator]

Bernie's the only viable candidate that the dark money behind both parties fear. That's his appeal. Bloomberg, Pete, and Joe all represent a stewardship of the power structure that produced Donald Trump. Is that what you're all about? Ushering in the next Donald Trump?

Eh... you weren't paying attention in 2016, I guess. Donald Trump was the result of a successful populist, anti-establishment movement in the Republican party. Have you ever wondered why the staunch Republican pundits in DC like George Will, David French, Jennifer Rubin, Anna Navarro and Bill Kristol etc. have all but turned Democrat in the last 4 years? Trump IS the victory of populism over Republican establishment. Those pundits are are less Republican and more establishment. Given the option they have chosen Democrat establishment over the Republican.

The Democrats get their next establishment candidate, and it is once again a victory over Bernie and his socialist populism. The trouble that the Democrats will face when the primaries are over is that traditionally that is when the parties turn suddenly moderate and appeal to the independent vote, but I don't think Biden will have the Bernie vote. This is Bernie's last chance, so I don't think it is a lock that he would fall in behind Biden like he did Hillary.

 

[bradt99]

Joe Biden is probably the third most vetted politician in modern political history after Hilary Clinton, and Barack Obama. Donald Trump was able to get millions of people to believe that Obama was not born in this country. Trump had an army of shady people running around and extorting Ukraine to find some dirt on Biden and all they could find was that his son works for an oil company. This information could have been discovered via google search. I think most people fear the stupid acting bernie bros over whatever boogey man you want dark money to mean today. Otherwise Pete Buttigieg wouldn't have won Iowa.

I know a lot of Bernie voters already saying they are staying home and not voting for Biden, so good luck.

 

[bradt99]

Eh... you weren't paying attention in 2016, I guess. Donald Trump was the result of a successful populist, anti-establishment movement in the Republican party. Have you ever wondered why the staunch Republican pundits in DC like George Will, David French, Jennifer Rubin, Anna Navarro and Bill Kristol etc. have all but turned Democrat in the last 4 years? Trump IS the victory of populism over Republican establishment. Those pundits are are less Republican and more establishment. Given the option they have chosen Democrat establishment over the Republican.

The Democrats get their next establishment candidate, and it is once again a victory over Bernie and his socialist populism. The trouble that the Democrats will face when the primaries are over is that traditionally that is when the parties turn suddenly moderate and appeal to the independent vote, but I don't think Biden will have the Bernie vote. This is Bernie's last chance, so I don't think it is a lock that he would fall in behind Biden like he did Hillary.

DO you think independents will turn away from Trump and actually vote for senile Biden? I don't see it. If the economy is still good, I see this election favoring Trump by 70%.

 

[bradt99]

Did the Dem leadership do all that voting on Super Tuesday? I say people do not want a revolution. Bernie scares a lot of people, including me.

Good thing Biden will have a driver. He doesn't need to know the address for the WH.

He won't be elected so it won't matter.

 

[bomberfox]

Joe Biden is probably the third most vetted politician in modern political history after Hilary Clinton, and Barack Obama. Donald Trump was able to get millions of people to believe that Obama was not born in this country. Trump had an army of shady people running around and extorting Ukraine to find some dirt on Biden and all they could find was that his son works for an oil company. This information could have been discovered via google search. I think most people fear the stupid acting bernie bros over whatever boogey man you want dark money to mean today. Otherwise Pete Buttigieg wouldn't have won Iowa.

Dark money isnt a boogeyman.

 

[Jay59]

Dark money isnt a boogeyman.

How can you believe anyone that claims Trump is less vetted than Hillary Clinton?

 

[Winston]

How can you believe anyone that claims Trump is less vetted than Hillary Clinton?

Because unlike Trump, Clinton had the balls to testify.

 

[bomberfox]

Of course that is a pro Castro comment. The suggestion is that without Castro there was no other way to improve literacy in Cuba. Besides, anyone with half a brain realizes that the Castro literacy program was in actuality a re-education/indoctrination program anyway. Unless you think those students were being allowed to read Tocqueville, Winston Churchill, and the Anti-Federalist Papers, then you are full of horse feathers.

Thats not even remotely what was implied. You can say some things improved under a leadership you normally disagree with. For example, the soviets were MILES ahead of any of the axis countries in terms of women’s rights, even ahead of Tsarist Russia. Every single axis country stamped out any chance women had at gaining human rights and pushed even worse treatment of women than before.

 

[bomberfox]

If Bernie said trump had some good education polices. Would you still be saying the same?


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Whats with this gotcha all of a sudden?

 

[bomberfox]

DO you think independents will turn away from Trump and actually vote for senile Biden? I don't see it. If the economy is still good, I see this election favoring Trump by 70%.

Yes. This “its the economy stupid” bull**** is going to end.

 

[NeverTrump]

Dark money isnt a boogeyman.

The state of Iowa tends to disagree.

 

[bomberfox]

The state of Iowa tends to disagree.

The state of iowa was unloaded on with an incredibly faulty system that was never needed created by some brand new company not many people knew about for what? Dark money in general is a thing.

 

[Napoleon]

Bernie's the only viable candidate that the dark money behind both parties fear. That's his appeal. Bloomberg, Pete, and Joe all represent a stewardship of the power structure that produced Donald Trump. Is that what you're all about? Ushering in the next Donald Trump?

You mean other than Bernie’s dark money PAC?

 

[Michael Cole]

That's a typo on my end. I should have written "not" instead of "now." I meant to say Bernie Sanders is the preferred candidate for Millenials and Generation Z.

Possibly, but the preferred activity for young voters isn't voting. If they don't care enough to actually vote, they are pretty worthless.

 

[Michael Cole]

The state of iowa was unloaded on with an incredibly faulty system that was never needed created by some brand new company not many people knew about for what? Dark money in general is a thing.

Socialism is a thing too.

 

[Michael Cole]

Today the Democrat party stands for one thing and one thing only. They are the anti-Trump party and nothing more. Heck, they aren't so much a political party any more as they are a lynch mob.

The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

-- Mitch McConnell

 

[NeverTrump]

The state of iowa was unloaded on with an incredibly faulty system that was never needed created by some brand new company not many people knew about for what? Dark money in general is a thing.

True but it's perfectly legal. Thanks to Citizens United. Bernie complains a lot about it, but has done nothing whatsoever to stop it. He hasn't even tried! He also does a rather fine job navigating through this dark web of dark money all on his own and has been doing so for 30 years. In fact he's made money off the system, but not enough so he thinks everything is rigged against him, just like a certain current president who seems to be praising him.

 

[Michael Cole]

He made no pro-Castro comments. He complimented Cuban literacy programs and its hilarious to watch people get the vapours over it.

That's right! And Trump was concerned with corruption in Ukraine.

 

[bomberfox]

You mean other than Bernie’s dark money PAC?

What dark money?

 

[bomberfox]

True but it's perfectly legal. Thanks to Citizens United. Bernie complains a lot about it, but has done nothing whatsoever to stop it. He hasn't even tried! He also does a rather fine job navigating through this dark web of dark money all on his own and has been doing so for 30 years. In fact he's made money off the system, but not enough so he thinks everything is rigged against him, just like a certain current president who seems to be praising him.

You should actually post some evidence behind your claim. He had huge grassroots following for a while.