Bernie is not ready for what's coming

[bomberfox]

That's right! And Trump was concerned with corruption in Ukraine.

Do you just love shoving your ass in randomly?

 

[jmotivator]

DO you think independents will turn away from Trump and actually vote for senile Biden? I don't see it. If the economy is still good, I see this election favoring Trump by 70%.

Who knows? It's too early to tell which direction the independents will fall in November. I don't think that Bernie had much hope winning independents, though, so Biden is almost certainly better situated than Bernie would be.

I think this election, more than any, will hinge heavily on the Democrat VP choice. It's not really all that macabre to consider that a good number of Democrat leaning independents will vote based on the assumption that Biden's VP will finish out Biden's first term. Obama picked Biden because Biden wasn't a threat... Biden needs to pick someone that most people could see being President.

 

[Napoleon]

What dark money?

Bernie’s Our Revolution is a dark money PAC.

 

[bomberfox]

Who knows? It's too early to tell which direction the independents will fall in November. I don't think that Bernie had much hope winning independents, though, so Biden is almost certainly better situated than Bernie would be.

I think this election, more than any, will hinge heavily on the Democrat VP choice. It's not really all that macabre to consider that a good number of Democrat leaning independents will vote based on the assumption that Biden's VP will finish out Biden's first term. Obama picked Biden because Biden wasn't a threat... Biden needs to pick someone that most people could see being President.

No doubt his veep pick will be incredibly important.

 

[CMPancake]

Bernie’s Our Revolution is a dark money PAC.

Absolute bull**** lie.

 

[Napoleon]

Absolute bull**** lie.

It’s verified truth.

 

[CMPancake]

It’s verified truth.

No, it's a baseless smear. Our Revolution is not a "dark money" PAC.

 

[Napoleon]

No, it's a baseless smear. Our Revolution is not a "dark money" PAC.

It is a dark money PAC and all of this has been evidenced in the FEC complaint. Bernie Scammers is funneling the big money through that PAC.

 

[Michael Cole]

Do you just love shoving your ass in randomly?

Sometimes. Does it bother you?

 

[CMPancake]

It is a dark money PAC and all of this has been evidenced in the FEC complaint. Bernie Scammers is funneling the big money through that PAC.

The FEC complaint was filed by a right-wing think-tank. It's utterly baseless and makes no actual claims. Can you fail any harder?

 

[Napoleon]

The FEC complaint was filed by a right-wing think-tank. It's utterly baseless and makes no actual claims. Can you fail any harder?

Its actually a liberal watchdog group and it lays out in detail the dark money contributions and campaign finance violations.

 

[bomberfox]

Its actually a liberal watchdog group and it lays out in detail the dark money contributions and campaign finance violations.

Which watchdog group?

 

[bradt99]

Yes. This “its the economy stupid” bull**** is going to end.

Lol. Okay. Bernie voters are saying they will stay home and Biden doesn't have a message, just that Trump is an "evil man" will not cut it.

 

[Napoleon]

Which watchdog group?

Common Cause.

 

[bomberfox]

Lol. Okay. Bernie voters are saying they will stay home and Biden doesn't have a message, just that Trump is an "evil man" will not cut it.

I think ill take your statement with a grain of salt .

 

[bomberfox]

Common Cause.

Ill check it out and see about pancake’s assertion even though i know what his reply will be

 

[btthegreat]

The fix is in. Biden is going to get the nomination, the democrat leadership want it so. Biden will be a puppet, he can't even remember the address for the White House, how is he going to run anything.

It appears as though the democratic voters want it so because they were the ones that cast those ballots. Sanders would have been a puppet of the same revolutionary socialists who have been controlling everything he has said and done from the start of this campaign. rank and file dems know we cannot afford that kind of radical socialist manipulation of our white house. Thank goodness they woke up before the socialists burned down the entire party.


See I can do that too.

 

[j brown's body]

Did the Dem leadership do all that voting on Super Tuesday? I say people do not want a revolution. Bernie scares a lot of people, including me.

Good thing Biden will have a driver. He doesn't need to know the address for the WH.

Everything's a conspiracy now. Really bad news for a democracy.

I'm fine with Bernie's ideas, but I agree, people don't want a revolution.

 

[Jay59]

Because unlike Trump, Clinton had the balls to testify.

No he didn't.

 

[bomberfox]

It appears as though the democratic voters want it so because they were the ones that cast those ballots. Sanders would have been a puppet of the same revolutionary socialists who have been controlling everything he has said and done from the start of this campaign. rank and file dems know we cannot afford that kind of radical socialist manipulation of our white house. Thank goodness they woke up before the socialists burned down the entire party.


See I can do that too.

Voters that wanted him to be president are puppeteering him because he is saying what they want him to say? Do you realize what you are saying?

 

[bomberfox]

Everything's a conspiracy now. Really bad news for a democracy.

I'm fine with Bernie's ideas, but I agree, people don't want a revolution.

Unfortunately we really seem to be at the point where radical changes are absolutely needed.

 

[btthegreat]

Voters that wanted him to be president are puppeteering him because he is saying what they want him to say? Do you realize what you are saying?

Now I want you to reread the post I quoted. Then read my reply paying attention to the last sentence.

 

[iguanaman]

Bernie's the only viable candidate that the dark money behind both parties fear. That's his appeal. Bloomberg, Pete, and Joe all represent a stewardship of the power structure that produced Donald Trump. Is that what you're all about? Ushering in the next Donald Trump?

We are not afraid of "dark money" nearly as much as we are of Trump being reelected. Bernie is Trump's dream candidate so why would be stupid enough to give him to him? Do you have a death wish? Biden IS NOT the next Donald Trump so stop claiming he is. You seem to forget that it is Republicans winning elections are the root cause of the woes that Bernie rails against and always has been.

 

[Perotista]

Biden just engrossed, Mayor Pete's and Bloomberg's entire political operations. They are full of younger, smarter, and moderate democrats who realize that Bernie has no plans to get things done. Hence, why they didn't and aren't joining his campaign. Do you see expose's about how terrible it was to work for Bloomberg or Mayor Pete and huge swaths of them going over to Bernie's campaign? Nope. Not a one!! And I'm rather surprised but happy about that. Plus I'd imagine they are true democrats who don't want to see the party burn to the ground. These are new people to politics (and I assume some Clinton people) who Bernie failed to reach because he was too radical already and hence they chose to work on other campaigns and not his. This is what I've been telling Bernie supporters this entire year. There were 20 other people in the race at one point and each of them had political organizations that did not fit your viewpoints, whatsoever! Democrats are well aware of who Bernie is, he just never changed his messaging to reach the majority of them.

The fact that Mayor Pete and Bloomberg each got 20-30% of democrats to vote for them in various states, means that Bernie made no inroads into his support in the last 4 years. He didn't build up his base and as he begins this latest line of ad attacks and frankly stealing Biden's ideas (which he started before March btw) will go down in flames. Bloomberg spent millions on a similar strategy and while he didn't attack Joe, he is now backing him and already made attack ads against Bernie. Clinton didn't seem to attack Bernie or Trump hard enough, Biden already has the people who will!

There have been HUGE calls to unite around Joe Biden so we can stick to attacking Trump. While currently, Sanders does have some path to the nomination, the polls do not look kind for his future. It won't be long before Sanders drops like a rock. I'm guessing teens by the time he drops out. Which could be sooner rather than later.

Since you stated Sanders has failed to expand his base, I thought I’d compare his vote total, percentage from 2016 to his percentage Sanders Received this year. * shows improvement.
State 2016 2020
Iowa 49% 27%
NH 60% 26%
NV 47% 41%
SC 26% 20%

Super Tuesday
AL 19% 20%*
AR 30% 22%
CAL 46% 34%
CO 59% 36%
ME 64% 33%
MA 48% 27%
MN 61% 30%
NC 41% 24%
OK 52% 25%
TN 32% 25%
TX 30% 33%*
UT 79% 35%
VT 86% 51%
VA 35% 31%

I think we must remember 2016 was basically a two-candidate race. Although Webb and O’Malley were on the ballot also. The first 4 primaries in 2020 was basically a 5-candidate race eliminating the rest of the field that was failing to draw more than 3%. Super Tuesday was between Sanders, Biden, Warren and Bloomberg. Even so, I think the numbers show that it was a fact that Sanders failed to expand his base.

 

[hermit]

Everything's a conspiracy now. Really bad news for a democracy.

I'm fine with Bernie's ideas, but I agree, people don't want a revolution.

We have been in the middle of a Trump revolution for over three years now. We are already in chaos. We don't need a Bernie revolution on top of that chaos. We need to settle down a bit, take stock as a country, and move forward from there. Let's make moves that include the good of everyone, and not just the good of the rich, or Trump and his family, or of any one group.

Trump cannot deliver that, but I'll bet Biden can.