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His one might well decide the NY governor raceAnother preview of life in Illinois following the official start of the SAFE-T Act:
Chicago sex offender molests multiple women while on bail: report
David Buckner, a 28-year-od registered sex offender in Chicago, allegedly molested multiple women in a string of assaults while out on bail, according to a local report.www.foxnews.com
Imo there should be no cash bail. Cash bail keeps innocent poor people in jail and allows guilty rich people to walk free. If they are a danger to the community or a flight risk hold them, otherwise set a court date and let them go.Bail is supposed to be reasonable for the person who is trying for it.
If the person is a flight risk or likely to offend while on bail, then t should not be granted. Otherwise it should be reasonable and obtainable for the person
Scandalous. From the article:
No, actually there are MANY instances....I found this one instance
We have alot of criminals. Because of a huge thug/criminal subculture.our leading the world in incarceration rate.
Build more courthouses and jails. I'd gladly pay more taxes for them.There's no room in court or in jail.
"Guy" shouldn't have commited a crime if his job and life was that important to him.poor guy who's holding onto his job for dear life,
Milwaukee parents blame liberal district attorney's soft bail laws for son's death in car crash
Milwaukee parents spoke out on their son's tragic death, arguing 20-year-old Danari Peer would still be alive if the district attorney was tougher on crimewww.foxnews.com
Should we eliminate all bail?A thread for those stories where some state's "bail reform" or some criminal-coddling DA/Judge with a soft spot for crumbs of society has led to disaster.
NYC man out on bail for alleged robbery caught on video now wanted for pointing gun at woman
A Brooklyn man charged with the savage caught-on-video robbery of a 68-year-old Citi Bike rider is now being sought by police for pointing a gun at woman, Fox News has learned.www.foxnews.com
Our first contestant is a crumb out on bail for robbery. Prosecutors asked for $100K, but a ***** judge kicked it down to $20K. Now free, our story's antagonist decided to climb the criminal ladder to the level of "assault & deadly weapon possession". And to show he's an egotistical freak, he's posting stuff on Instagram while on the run.
You're unlikely to get much discussion from that poster. He just likes to post headlines from Fox.Should we eliminate all bail?
Hit and runYou're unlikely to get much discussion from that poster. He just likes to post headlines from Fox.
No. But more common sense should be used. For example, past criminal records should be taken into account, as well as the crime that was committed and how dangerous the person may be.Should we eliminate all bail?
Why not eliminate all bail?No. But more common sense should be used. For example, past criminal records should be taken into account, as well as the crime that was committed and how dangerous the person may be.
A Michigan man accused of killing his mother, stepfather and ex-girlfriend after being released from jail on bond has been charged with a fourth murder.
Detroit murder suspect out on bond accused in fourth killing
A Michigan man who allegedly killed his parents and former girlfriend is not accused in the killing of a woman days earlier.www.foxnews.com
A California man was out on bond for a December domestic violence arrest when he allegedly killed his ex-girlfriend, according to police, who say there could be more assault victims.
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The 36-year-old has a history of violence against women, according to court records obtained by USA Today.
California man with history of violence against women killed ex-girlfriend while on bond: cops
Aaron Romo, who has a lengthy alleged history of violence against women, was on bail after a December domestic violence arrest when he allegedly killed his ex-girlfriend in Anaheim.www.foxnews.com
IMO bail should be only used as an incentive for the accused person to return to court for trial.These threads never construct the actual argument. It's all left to implication based on the anecdote.
The anecdote is always "I found this one instance in which someone got bail and then went a'criming" If that's all you offer, you necessarily leave your principals dialed to 11. The direct implication is that people who were arrested for the original crime or something like it should not have had the option of posting bail.
That would not be a mere repudiation of bail reform. It'd be an expansion of what we had!
One of the most grotesque problems with bail is in relation to our leading the world in incarceration rate. There's no room in court or in jail. Cases take a while. We deliberately underfund the courts, then underfund public defense even harder. "Underfund" isn't the right word. So what are you going to do as a poor guy who's holding onto his job for dear life, is living behind-bills to behind-bills, etc?
A lot of people might say "I'd stay and fight! On principle!" They're probably thinking of their assets, and fact that they won't have to ever prove it because they'll be able to post bail. Let's be honest. Unless you actually have completely and utterly ruined yourself in a bet for freedom and you lived it until you clawed out, you have no idea what you'd do. And you wouldn't. Choice:
- Cop to misdemeanor (say, resisting arrest, maybe disorderly, or maybe a minor drug charge) and get out so you can maybe try to keep your job, while making sure you have your belongings, apartment, GFs/fiances/wives, etc.
- Demand your right to a speedy trial and wait for six months. Or a year. Or whatever. Because all sorts of actions by a defendant toll the speedy trial requirement, and the government also has a number of ways to force defendants into a position where they'll do one of those things if they wouldn't anyway.
But things are scary. It's easier to attack bail on a bet that it won't happen to you or your own. If you're of means, you're going to be able to post bail in all but the most gruesome cases filed against rich people. It's only those people who plead despite innocence so they can keep at least a little bit of their lives.
Indeed. Bail is horribly misused. It should be an insult to all Americans, but Americans tend to say "it's happening to those people, not my fam"IMO bail should be only used as an incentive for the accused person to return to court for trial.
But considering how tight the finances of many are, paying any kind of bail might ruin them financially. (I could go off on a tangent talking about how ****ed up our economy is but I won't).
If court fees and bail would put the accused person in a worse financial position than before they were arrested, they should be waived in part or in whole, with the intent of preventing this financial change. IF that means they pay no court fees or bail, so be it.
If anywhere in our current system it is encouraged and/or financially viable to plead guilty even if innocent, that extremely unjust, and must be changed.
If this means we won't have enough judges and courts to handle all the cases, then we need to prosecute less cases or have more judges/courts. Or both.
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