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Attacks on religious and racial minorities fueled sharp rise in hate crimes in 2017, FBI says

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Attacks on religious and racial minorities fueled sharp rise in hate crimes in 2017, FBI says
Hate crimes rose in the U.S. by more than 17% in 2017, fueled by increases in attacks against religious and racial minorities, according to a report the FBI released Tuesday.

It is the biggest annual increase in reported hate crimes since 2001, when attacks on Muslims surged in response to the Sept. 11 attacks, and the third straight year that hate crimes have gone up.

The count, which drew on data submitted by more than 3,000 law enforcement agencies, documented a total of 7,175 hate crimes in 2017. The tally was 1,054 higher than the year before. It included a 37% increase in anti-Jewish crimes, a 24% increase in attacks on Latinos and a nearly 16% rise in crimes against African Americans.

In California, hate crimes increased by more than 17% to 1,095, while Los Angeles showed a 16% jump to 263. Race-driven crimes were the most common in the state, followed by attacks on sexual orientation and religion.
Meanwhile Conservatives answer these facts with more whataboutisms... but no condemnation of these hate crimes.
 

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Attacks on religious and racial minorities fueled sharp rise in hate crimes in 2017, FBI says

Meanwhile Conservatives answer these facts with more whataboutisms... but no condemnation of these hate crimes.

You just posted this, its new information just released, and already say that there is no condemnation of these hate crimes..... :roll:

Here, since so many around here consider me a conservative I'll say something.

I fully, 100%...nay...10000000000000000000000000000% am against and condemn ANY and ALL hate crimes that have been, or will be, perpetrated by any and all people. Doesn't matter their reasoning, their beef, their skin color, or anything possible under the sun. Hate crimes are horrible and should NOT be perpetrated. Period.

Happy? Now....what the hell is to be done about it?

One of my suggestions? Reform our education system. Study the top 5 to 10 school systems in the entire world, choose parts from all of them that exhibit the best potential to create a top notch education system, adapt it for OUR society and culture and implement it. It is well known that the more educated a person is the less bigoted they are. And the less violent crimes they will commit. And will succeed better in life. So its a win win win for all.

Hows that?
 

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You just posted this, its new information just released, and already say that there is no condemnation of these hate crimes..... :roll:
These statistics reflect crimes have been getting reported for months in the media. While they were getting reported on DP there has been nothing but "whataboutisms" - what about Antifa, what about bike locks, what about that sniper dude, and so on.

Here, since so many around here consider me a conservative I'll say something.

I fully, 100%...nay...10000000000000000000000000000% am against and condemn ANY and ALL hate crimes that have been, or will be, perpetrated by any and all people. Doesn't matter their reasoning, their beef, their skin color, or anything possible under the sun. Hate crimes are horrible and should NOT be perpetrated. Period.

Happy? Now....what the hell is to be done about it?

One of my suggestions? Reform our education system. Study the top 5 to 10 school systems in the entire world, choose parts from all of them that exhibit the best potential to create a top notch education system, adapt it for OUR society and culture and implement it. It is well known that the more educated a person is the less bigoted they are. And the less violent crimes they will commit. And will succeed better in life. So its a win win win for all.

Hows that?
LOL we need more funding and Conservatives have always fought against that, which is why states keep cutting funding for colleges and raising tuition.

Conservatives also hate diversity. Diversity is literally an evil word to them. They hate Muslims and constantly harass Hispanics and accuse them of being non-citizens.

Really, the common denominator with hate crimes is Conservatives. Maybe that is the problem here?
 

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These statistics reflect crimes have been getting reported for months in the media. While they were getting reported on DP there has been nothing but "whataboutisms" - what about Antifa, what about bike locks, what about that sniper dude, and so on.

Do you expect everyone to know everything? Because the statistics that you just posted are for ALL hate crimes. The ones talked about here at DP are a select few cases and don't even come close to how many are in that statistic.

And the reason for talk about Antifa etc etc is because while you willingly condemn conservatives you completely ignore what Antifa and other far left fringe groups do. Always harping about how EVIL conservatives are while never once acknowledging the evil on your side of the aisle. So yes, there's going to be "whataboutism". Because its the only way to bring to your attention what your side does.

In any case, just because someone uses a "whataboutism" does not mean that they condone hate crimes. This is not a zero sum thing where a person has to condemn anything that you feel should be condemned right away. Other things can and should be talked about. Not just what you feel should be talked about.


LOL we need more funding and Conservatives have always fought against that, which is why states keep cutting funding for colleges and raising tuition.

Conservatives also hate diversity. Diversity is literally an evil word to them. They hate Muslims and constantly harass Hispanics and accuse them of being non-citizens.

Really, the common denominator with hate crimes is Conservatives. Maybe that is the problem here?

Funny, I seem to recall times where Democrats were in total control of the House, Senate, and Presidency and not a single thing has been done. Not to mention there are cities and even states where they have an easy majority where such things can be done. Yet nothing has been done. Care to explain that? Blaming Conservatives is nothing more than you showing that your eyes are blinded to the things that your own side does and believe.
 

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Do you expect everyone to know everything?
People have been screaming loudly on DP for months - years - about right wing violence. You know this. And Conservatives have listened - and actively responded with nothing but butwhataboutisms.

Because the statistics that you just posted are for ALL hate crimes. The ones talked about here at DP are a select few cases and don't even come close to how many are in that statistic.
I'm sure you're familiar with the term "we told you so"? Because yeah, we've been telling you so for years.

And the reason for talk about Antifa etc etc is because while you willingly condemn conservatives you completely ignore what Antifa and other far left fringe groups do.
False equivalency. How many mass shootings has Antifa engaged in? How many throats slit? How many bombs mailed out? How many Antifa bombs have killed people?

Funny, I seem to recall times where Democrats were in total control of the House, Senate, and Presidency and not a single thing has been done. Not to mention there are cities and even states where they have an easy majority where such things can be done. Yet nothing has been done. Care to explain that? Blaming Conservatives is nothing more than you showing that your eyes are blinded to the things that your own side does and believe.
The GOP filibustered the hell out of the Democrats last time they had that level of total control. Democrats have actually done a lot, and their big achievement, the Affordable Care Act, cost the GOP dearly this time when they tried to dismantle it.

Obama himself cut fnuding for federal privatized prisons, paved the way for the Federal government to stop prosecuting marijuana usage, cut back on police militarization, among a number of really big things that Trump came along and immediately undid. So your "Democrats did nothing" argument is a flat-out lie.
 

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I hate crimes, but hate the concept of hate crime.


Punish the crime, not the motive.
 

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You just posted this, its new information just released, and already say that there is no condemnation of these hate crimes..... :roll:

Here, since so many around here consider me a conservative I'll say something.

I fully, 100%...nay...10000000000000000000000000000% am against and condemn ANY and ALL hate crimes that have been, or will be, perpetrated by any and all people. Doesn't matter their reasoning, their beef, their skin color, or anything possible under the sun. Hate crimes are horrible and should NOT be perpetrated. Period.

Happy? Now....what the hell is to be done about it?

One of my suggestions? Reform our education system. Study the top 5 to 10 school systems in the entire world, choose parts from all of them that exhibit the best potential to create a top notch education system, adapt it for OUR society and culture and implement it. It is well known that the more educated a person is the less bigoted they are. And the less violent crimes they will commit. And will succeed better in life. So its a win win win for all.

Hows that?

Yet you will continue to support Trump who is against ALL of what you say. Keep saying you are against all that while supporting the biggest enabler of racism in decades with Trump. In other words, your comments are nothing but bull**** as usual Kal.
 

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Yet you will continue to support Trump who is against ALL of what you say. Keep saying you are against all that while supporting the biggest enabler of racism in decades with Trump. In other words, your comments are nothing but bull**** as usual Kal.

How myopic of you. You do know that people can support multiple things and be against multiple things...right? That you're blinded by partisanship is not my problem. It's yours. Grow your mind and then get back to me.
 

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How myopic of you. You do know that people can support multiple things and be against multiple things...right? That you're blinded by partisanship is not my problem. It's yours. Grow your mind and then get back to me.

anything to support your hypocrisy. Again, your comments are MEANINGLESS when you support Trump like you do. Your comments are nothing by hypocritical. Nothing you say changes that FACT.
 

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Before I address you I must apologize to everyone. I wrongly attributed something to an entire group when I should not have. I'm sorry. My only excuse is that I'm not having that great of a day and I let it affect what I said.

People have been screaming loudly on DP for months - years - about right wing violence. You know this. And Conservatives have listened - and actively responded with nothing but butwhataboutisms.


I'm sure you're familiar with the term "we told you so"? Because yeah, we've been telling you so for years.


False equivalency. How many mass shootings has Antifa engaged in? How many throats slit? How many bombs mailed out? How many Antifa bombs have killed people?

You too have done the same thing that I started out doing. Attributed something to an entire group where 99.99% of the people in it are innocent. Fact is that every one of those killings, hate crimes, threats etc etc etc was done by individuals. And both sides would easily agree that such things are horrible and should not be done. Whether you want to acknowledge that or not is entirely up to you. But I would suggest that you open your eyes a bit and also learn a bit about discernment.

The GOP filibustered the hell out of the Democrats last time they had that level of total control. Democrats have actually done a lot, and their big achievement, the Affordable Care Act, cost the GOP dearly this time when they tried to dismantle it.

Obama himself cut fnuding for federal privatized prisons, paved the way for the Federal government to stop prosecuting marijuana usage, cut back on police militarization, among a number of really big things that Trump came along and immediately undid. So your "Democrats did nothing" argument is a flat-out lie.

I never said that Obama did not do anything. I was speaking about education reform. And on that front Obama DID fail. Common Core Sucks donkey balls.

Anyways, its disingenuous to say that Republicans filibustered the hell out of them considering that Democrats were still able to pass Obamacare despite Republicans and despite the majority of the country being against it at the time. Something far better could have been accomplished as they had the numbers. Isn't that what's said about Republicans now a days?

Also, you ignored what I said about cities and States also.
 

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anything to support your hypocrisy. Again, your comments are MEANINGLESS when you support Trump like you do. Your comments are nothing by hypocritical. Nothing you say changes that FACT.

So, every politician that you support also supports every little thing that YOU support?

Yeah...didn't think so.
 

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So, every politician that you support also supports every little thing that YOU support?

Yeah...didn't think so.

According to you on the right, yes. If I say I support a politician, you on the right bring up every little thing that candidate says or believes in so the same applies to you as well.
 

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According to you on the right, yes. If I say I support a politician, you on the right bring up every little thing that candidate says or believes in so the same applies to you as well.

I've never said such a thing. Hell, I'd challenge you to prove your statement ta boot cause I've never seen it.
 

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I've never said such a thing. Hell, I'd challenge you to prove your statement ta boot cause I've never seen it.

So you have called on the right who have said such a thing against the left, I'm sure you can support that right?
 

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So you have called on the right who have said such a thing against the left, I'm sure you can support that right?

:confused: Huh? I just asked you to prove your assertion because I've never seen it. What are you doing now? Attempting to move goal posts or something? Prove that people on the Right expect you to support every thing that a politician does or says.
 

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One of my suggestions? Reform our education system. Study the top 5 to 10 school systems in the entire world, choose parts from all of them that exhibit the best potential to create a top notch education system, adapt it for OUR society and culture and implement it. It is well known that the more educated a person is the less bigoted they are. And the less violent crimes they will commit. And will succeed better in life. So its a win win win for all.

Hows that?

Good ideas. The chance of this happening with Donald Trump as President: zero percent.
 

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Good ideas. The chance of this happening with Donald Trump as President: zero percent.

I agree. Of course I'm certain that there is a zero percent chance that it will be happening with any President any time soon.
 
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