And in a country of 4 million, with a single centralized government, it's possible for this government to impose the restructuring that allowed them to prevent the spread. President Trump did not, and does not have that power.In fairness, you have a point.
And also in fairness, you have to recognize that once the infection has entered the country, the isolation point you're making becomes of much less importance than the necessary precautions being observed. The reason for the US poor performance isn't because of infected people coming across your borders. Canada serves as a comparison too.
I gave up on that one.The more you say, the more I get you wrong. What the fk are you on about now?
no
much of it is his fault because he's sitting in the drivers seat when a pandemic hit and he lied and downplayed it and made it way worse that it needed to be.
go ask some local small business owners how they're doing now.
The real question is how many Americans are you willing to let die because a politician totally screwed up?How much is Trump's fault? 20,000? 30,000? 100,000
The more you say, the more I get you wrong. What the fk are you on about now?
Do you have any examples where there were no co-mortality causes, proven?
Give us some actual numbers instead of the usual TDS rant. How many dead under Hillary?Certainly less than under the malignant narcissist scumbag POS. I doubt she would have contradicted her own administration's recommendations or actively contradicted the states ability to fight the virus. Promoting hydroxychloquine or injecting bleach probably wouldn't be part of her choices either. Simply wearing a mask would have been encouraged. The sleezeball has been a complete failure.
You have no right to not die. MehNo that is not what they believe
They believe that the country rated as the best prepared for a pandemic would have handled it better and have seen significantly fewer deaths under Hillary than under Don the con.
It would be hard for a leader to have done a worse job than Trump, Boris Johnson has to work hard to get similar numbers
The real question is how many Americans are you willing to let die because a politician totally screwed up?
You have no right to not die. Meh
now that you've been Tea Party and Q, what's next?Your rhetorical question has no basis in reality.
Only individuals with common sense and caution have control over whether they get sick and die.
Your question seems to suggest our president has some control over who lives and who dies.
And, you infer our political choice is somehow going to affect the outcome of peoples' lives regarding the pandemic.
You love the idea of punishing Trump because you think he killed thousands of people.
Some freaky narrative.
Really. You think an island nation that shut down 100% of its borders to prevent migration of the virus is comparable to the United States? Really?
Do you have any examples where there were no co-mortality causes, proven?
I love the fact that you come to such conclusions so fast. How much time did you actually spend to read the paper (26 pages)? The time lapse between my post that pointed to you the paper and your response came after 26 minutes.
Anyway, an example from the paper that you supposedly read
Page 10
In Figure 3 we see a significant correlation between rate of spread and ρN for Europe (r 2 = 0.26 and p < 0.004), and in Figure 4 we see an even stronger effect in terms of ρW (r 2 = 0.53 and p < 0.0001). Therefore, we conclude that in each case using non-standard measures of population density reveals statistically significant effects compared with those arising from the standard population density ρS. It appears that the population-weighted measure ρW is of the most value in this sense, explaining over half the variation in the rate of spread of COVID-19 across Europe.
Again, you fail to grasp that statistical analysis and correlations are derived from a big picture of many data points. If one wants to make an argument against such statistically significant link based on particular pairs of datapoints, then this is irrational. Again, it is like arguing that smoking is not significantly correlated to shorter life expectancy because we can find pairs of people where a non-smoker lives a shorter life than a smoker. Heck, the average Japanese smokes more than an American and lives longer than him..
Yes, your bitch was a whiny defense of Biden. But it wasn't a quote from my post. A paraphrase at best, which, at least in this country, you do not put quotation marks around.
First off, you're all over the map with your replies, so I'll be brief on each of your issues. The death rate was on the decline but a one day spike yesterday has shown that may change. I'll need to see more than one big day.
On the death camps issue, are you suggesting that no death camps existed? (in brackets)
For the record, I believe the truth. See Elie Weisel's evidence.
dude. it's where i get the numbers.
now, how many died yesterday?
Yeah, so what? There could be a steady increase in the number of deaths per day but it's going to take a few more days to see if the trend up holds. As I said yesterday, I think it will. Not only climb to a thousand per day but more like 2000.The US mortality rate (for "closed cases") continues to decline.
The rolling seven day death rate in the US appears to be (at a minimum) spiking.
Yeah true, but can you offer an explanation on the reason or reasons the US failed so badly. I would give Trump about 50% of the blame and American attitudes a good 30% of it too.Other than that isn't what I was saying at all, "Nice try.".
I think that the level of leadership that let the country's leaders implement the measures necessary in New Zealand vastly exceeded the level of leadership in the US.
I think that the level of civic consciousness that let the country's people cooperate with the common sense measures that tended to reduce the severity of the effects of COVID-19 on New Zealand vastly exceeded the level of civic consciousness in the US.
What the authors neglected to take into account is the variations of "population density" WITHIN countries.
Yeah true, but can you offer an explanation on the reason or reasons the US failed so badly. I would give Trump about 50% of the blame and American attitudes a good 30% of it too.
The attitude problem being that Americans would consider something like wearing a mask an attack on their freedom.
I'm not surprised you wouldn't understand the attitude reason.A part of this attitude of making masks a symbol of government's tyranny is also Trump's fault. It should not be a surprise that a leader who does not lead by example (using a mask) and who mocks scientists and people who wear masks will spark stronger resistance against scientific recommendations to wear a mask.
Just for perspective something like 3 million Americans die every year regardless of Covid.
How could I or anyone possibly know that? What a ridiculous request. We needed someone to lead with a cohesive national plan. Not "liberate xxx" in tweets.Give us some actual numbers instead of the usual TDS rant. How many dead under Hillary?
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