Are you saved?

[Metanoia]

that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

A case could be made for distinguishing the difference between ‘entering’ the kingdom and ‘inheriting’ the kingdom……. I believe there is a difference….

 

[CaughtInThe]

From what?

Hate

 

[tosca1]

A case could be made for distinguishing the difference between ‘entering’ the kingdom and ‘inheriting’ the kingdom……. I believe there is a difference….

No, there isn't a difference, really.


Only those who have Christ, are given the Holy Spirit.
Only those who have Christ are considered children of God.
Only those who have Christ, will enter the Kingdom of God.

They become co-heirs.............................. with Christ!




Romans 8
14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons[f] of God.
15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!”
16 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,
17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.




What, then, does it mean to suffer with Christ?
It may include the idea that Christians can expect to be persecuted for our close identity with Christ (John 15:20).
It may refer to what Paul wrote earlier that to put our faith in Jesus is to be so closely associated with Him that we ourselves die to sin on a spiritual level (Romans 6:5–8).
Or perhaps this suffering is the suffering that Jesus experienced in daily life on a sin-ravaged world, something that every person lives through.
Paul will describe this universal "groaning" of existence in verses 22–23. Those in Christ, however, suffer with Him on their way to being glorified with Him once this life has ended.
For Christians, suffering in this life is never meaningless (Romans 5:3–5).

What does Romans 8:17 mean? | BibleRef.com

and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him. - What is the meaning of Romans 8:17?

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[BabaVoss]

Saved? From what?

 

[tosca1]

Saved? From what?

From the second death.............................which will be handed down on Judgment day - wrath of GOD.




More often, the word salvation concerns an eternal, spiritual deliverance.
When Paul told the Philippian jailer what he must do to be saved, he was referring to the jailer’s eternal destiny (Acts 16:30-31).
Jesus equated being saved with entering the kingdom of God (Matthew 19:24-25).


What are we saved from?
In the Christian doctrine of salvation, we are saved from “wrath,” that is, from God’s judgment of sin (Romans 5:9; 1 Thessalonians 5:9).
Our sin has separated us from God, and the consequence of sin is death (Romans 6:23). Biblical salvation refers to our deliverance from the consequence of sin and therefore involves the removal of sin.
We are saved from both the power and penalty of sin.


How does God save?
In the Christian doctrine of salvation, God has rescued us through Jesus Christ (John 3:17).
Specifically, it was Jesus’ death on the cross and subsequent resurrection that achieved our salvation (Romans 5:10; Ephesians 1:7).
Scripture is clear that salvation is the gracious, undeserved gift of God (Ephesians 2:5, 8) and is only available through faith in Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12).

What is salvation? What is the Christian doctrine of salvation? | GotQuestions.org

What is salvation? What is the Christian doctrine of salvation? What are we being saved from, and what are we being saved to?

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[VySky]

The answer to the poll is while thinking one is saved, doesn't mean its so.

The parable of the 4 soils makes it clear.

In the parable only 25% of those who thought they were saved were actually saved.

 

[BabaVoss]

From the second death.............................which will be handed down on Judgment day - wrath of GOD.

Ah, that. No thanks.

 

[tosca1]

@Daisy.

I just saw you voted "NO."

Was that a mistake?
If not - I'm wondering why you think "no?"

 

[tosca1]

The answer to the poll is while thinking one is saved, doesn't mean its so.

The parable of the 4 soils makes it clear.

In the parable only 25% of those who thought they were saved were actually saved.

Oh lol - you just gave me the reason to vote, "I don't know."

Although..............................in my heart, I believe, I am.

 

[VySky]

From the second death.............................which will be handed down on Judgment day - wrath of GOD.




More often, the word salvation concerns an eternal, spiritual deliverance.
When Paul told the Philippian jailer what he must do to be saved, he was referring to the jailer’s eternal destiny (Acts 16:30-31).
Jesus equated being saved with entering the kingdom of God (Matthew 19:24-25).


What are we saved from?
In the Christian doctrine of salvation, we are saved from “wrath,” that is, from God’s judgment of sin (Romans 5:9; 1 Thessalonians 5:9).
Our sin has separated us from God, and the consequence of sin is death (Romans 6:23). Biblical salvation refers to our deliverance from the consequence of sin and therefore involves the removal of sin.
We are saved from both the power and penalty of sin.


How does God save?
In the Christian doctrine of salvation, God has rescued us through Jesus Christ (John 3:17).
Specifically, it was Jesus’ death on the cross and subsequent resurrection that achieved our salvation (Romans 5:10; Ephesians 1:7).
Scripture is clear that salvation is the gracious, undeserved gift of God (Ephesians 2:5, 8) and is only available through faith in Jesus Christ (Acts 4:12).

What is salvation? What is the Christian doctrine of salvation? | GotQuestions.org

What is salvation? What is the Christian doctrine of salvation? What are we being saved from, and what are we being saved to?

www.gotquestions.org

Indeed friend

Matthew 25

The Parable of the Ten Virgins

1“Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lampsa and went to meet the bridegroom.b

2 Five of them were foolish, and five were wise.

3 For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them,

4 but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps.

5 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept.

6 But at midnight there was a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’

7 Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps.

8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’

9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘Since there will not be enough for us and for you, go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.’

10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut.

11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’

12 But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’

13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

 

[VySky]

Oh lol - you just gave me the reason to vote, "I don't know."

Although..............................in my heart, I believe, I am.

God knows the heart.

 

[Metanoia]

The answer to the poll is while thinking one is saved, doesn't mean its so.

The parable of the 4 soils makes it clear.

In the parable only 25% of those who thought they were saved were actually saved.

Chapter and verse please……not familiar with that parable…

 

[Revelation]

A case could be made for distinguishing the difference between ‘entering’ the kingdom and ‘inheriting’ the kingdom……. I believe there is a difference….

if you don't inherit the kingdom, you will not enter the kingdom.

Salvation changes us from the inside, if that is not true, then start over.

repentance/confession is a daily thing. too easy to get lost in this world; thankfully Jesus is the great Shepherd of the sheep and continues to guide his people into righteousness.

i believe a person can walk away from faith and resist the call of God, forfeiting their salvation. thus few there be that find it.

blessings.

 

[Metanoia]

No, there isn't a difference, really.

If there is a hierarchy in heaven, which there is(e g…Paul’s mention of the 3rd Heaven)….then there is a difference. To inherit means one has been chosen to be a custodian….and a custodian has authority. Salvation was a one time deed for all people…..all are saved but not all realize that. It is the realization that effects change in people. Remember…..Jesus said it was hard for a rich man to ENTER the kingdom of heaven…. not impossible. Now this tells me that some just barely enter the kingdom……from that point it then becomes a learning process….not yet being able to have the authority of custodians….not yet being angels, cherubim’s, seraphim’s, etc.

 

[Metanoia]

In reference to my previous post….#364….the church, itself, follows this same logical principle. A new convert to the church who has just made his confession of faith is not immediately given authority……he is not asked to give next week’s sermon nor is he asked to be a teacher, etc.

 

[Metanoia]

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."



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Let me ask……is there is a single one of these sins that God is not capable of forgiving ? And if forgiven does this not mean that they cannnot ENTER the kingdom of heaven ? For me, entry is still theirs…..we might believe in a hierarchy of sins….but God says all have sinned….there is but one sin that cannot be forgiven and that sin, in itself, can disappear with repentance…..these literal readings of scripture are misleading if one does not allow for the difference between entering and inheriting….IMO……

 

[Revelation]

Let me ask……is there is a single one of these sins that God is not capable of forgiving ? And if forgiven does this not mean that they cannnot ENTER the kingdom of heaven ? For me, entry is still theirs…..we might believe in a hierarchy of sins….but God says all have sinned….there is but one sin that cannot be forgiven and that sin, in itself, can disappear with repentance…..these literal readings of scripture are misleading if one does not allow for the difference between entering and inheriting….IMO……

Jesus talked about the narrow and broad roads of life.

those on the broad road go to destruction.

Jesus made it simple, people complicate things.

i go with Jesus, keep his commandments, and you are in.

simple enuf?

good.

or check out 'Life in the Son' by Shank; he was a baptist professor of bible that said Holiness is Job One.

read the gospels, Jesus said: 'go and sin no more'.

what does that mean? it means: go and sin no more.

people stop complicating things, my kids understand this and so can you

blessings.

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[Lethargic Aptitude]

Saved? From what?

Saved from God killing you out of spite?

 

[VySky]

Chapter and verse please……not familiar with that parable…

“And as he sowed, some seeds fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured them. Other seeds fell on rocky ground, where they did not have much soil, and immediately they sprang up, since they had no depth of soil, but when the sun rose they were scorched. And since they had no root, they withered away. Other seeds fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up and choked them. Other seeds fell on good soil and produced grain, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. He who has ears, let him hear.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13‬:‭4‬-‭9‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Matthew 13:4-9 And as he sowed, some seeds fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured them. Other seeds fell on rocky ground, where they did not have much soil, and immediately they sprang up, since they h | English Standard Version Revisio

And as he sowed, some seeds fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured them. Other seeds fell on rocky ground, where they did not have much soil, and immediately they sprang up, since they h

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“Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. The ones along the path are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved. And the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear the word, receive it with joy. But these have no root; they believe for a while, and in time of testing fall away. And as for what fell among the thorns, they are those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by the cares and riches and pleasures of life, and their fruit does not mature. As for that in the good soil, they are those who, hearing the word, hold it fast in an honest and good heart, and bear fruit with patience.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭8‬:‭11‬-‭15‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Luke 8:11-15 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. The ones along the path are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and | English Standard Version 2016 (ESV

Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. The ones along the path are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and

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[VySky]

““Hear then the parable of the sower: When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is what was sown along the path. As for what was sown on rocky ground, this is the one who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy, yet he has no root in himself, but endures for a while, and when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately he falls away. As for what was sown among thorns, this is the one who hears the word, but the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and it proves unfruitful. As for what was sown on good soil, this is the one who hears the word and understands it. He indeed bears fruit and yields, in one case a hundredfold, in another sixty, and in another thirty.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13‬:‭18‬-‭23‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Matthew 13:19-23 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is what was sown along the path. As for what was sown o | English Standard Version 2016

When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is what was sown along the path. As for what was sown o

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[samiam5211]

I was baptized.

It didn’t take.

 

[Metanoia]

VkSky……thanks for the scripture…..

 

[Luce]

Salvation is the foundation of Christianity.

Salvation is attained only through "Bob".

 

[Nickyjo]

Let me ask……is there is a single one of these sins that God is not capable of forgiving ? And if forgiven does this not mean that they cannnot ENTER the kingdom of heaven ? For me, entry is still theirs…..we might believe in a hierarchy of sins….but God says all have sinned….there is but one sin that cannot be forgiven and that sin, in itself, can disappear with repentance…..these literal readings of scripture are misleading if one does not allow for the difference between entering and inheriting….IMO……

Apparently Jesus won’t forgive your 491st sin. But up to 70x7. There was a Swedish film titled “491” on that topic.

 

[Daisy]

@Daisy.

I just saw you voted "NO."

Was that a mistake?
If not - I'm wondering why you think "no?"

No, no mistake...

Because of what both Jesus and Paul said, salvation is not a done deal, salvation is a process...until the end of our life or the end of the world, whichever comes 1st...

"But the one who has endured to the end will be saved." Matthew 24:13

“Keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” Philippians 2:12

Nor can we take that process of salvation for granted...

For as regards those who were once enlightened+ and who have tasted the heavenly free gift and who have become partakers of holy spirit 5 and who have tasted the fine word of God and powers of the coming system of things, 6 but have fallen away,+ it is impossible to revive them again to repentance," Hebrews 6:4-6

"For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth,+ there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left," Hebrews 10:26,