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Are you racist?

Are you racist?

  • Absolutely. Elaborate.

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • To some degree. Elaborate.

    Votes: 9 56.3%
  • Absolutely not. Elaborate.

    Votes: 6 37.5%

  • Total voters
    16
Racist, never. Now put down your fried chicken and answer your own question. Have you ever been, or are you now, racist?
 
Racist, never. Now put down your fried chicken and answer your own question. Have you ever been, or are you now, racist?

I dont know I guess it depends on the beholder.

I believe most people have "racist moments" but they themselves are not "racist people". I dont hate black people. Au contraire I love being part black because of the rich history African Americans have in this country.However when I go to an ATM machine at 2-3 oclock in the morning and I'm looking out for any potential stick up kids. I'm more likely to be on the look out for black kids wearing hoodies then white kids with skateboards. In the same manner when I go to visit my family in Mississippi and I drive to a gas station and there are a few white rednecks looking harder at me then they should, I automatically think they're just waiting for an excuse to lynch me.

These are what I consider "racist moments". The difference between a person who has racist moments and a person who is racist period is that the person who is racist is in the same state of mind all the time. They believe that all whites are children of former slave owners. They believe all blacks are slackers. They believe all asians know Kung Fu and speak english funny. Racist people dont see past the stereotypes. Matter of fact thats all they see. They dont allow themselves for one minute to believe that maybe black people are just as scared of drug dealers as white people or that poor white people have the same problems poor black people have. A racist person doesn't see that as humans we all face the same fears, problems, trials and tribulations. I however do. So in my opinion. I'm a person who's had racist moments but is not a racist himself.
 
OK, now what you've all been waiting for. Evidence of ptsdkid's hypocracy and proof that he is an admitted racist.

We shall begin here...


First you need to give the meaning of a 'racist'.

RACIST: Showing ethnic prejudice.

I am a White Pride Nationalist, but I do not consider myself a racist.

Everyone got that. Note the bold. Now when I read that, I thought I had remembered another thread, authored by ptsdkid that contradicted this statement. Lo and behold, look what I found.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/13097-am-i-political-bigot.html

Now to save y'all the time of reading the entire thread to find the salient points, I will zero in on the highlights.

First, the kid's opening salvo:

BIGOT: one intolerantly devoted to his or her own prejudices or opinions.

Of course all of the following scenarios are hypothetical in nature, but are still important in evaluating political bigotry.

Would I be a ‘BIGOT’ if I were to:

** Voice concern of a Jewish conspiracy for world domination as seen by their control of America’s entertainment industry, of our financial institutions, of our major media outlets including television, newspapers and radio, and of their backing of the ACLU in destroying every visage of our Christian traditions as held by our founding fathers.

** Call a spade a spade by voicing concern that the Black entertainment industry is poisoning our children’s minds with the exposure of rap lyrics that clearly call for the killing of ’whitey’ and white officers (pigs), and the devaluing and degeneration of our women from every race, by calling them ho’s etc.
By pointing out that Blacks have significantly lower IQ’s than both White and Asian Americans.
That Blacks represent approximately 12% of our population, yet they represent 50% of our incarcerated.

** Call myself a ‘White Pride Nationalist’ as I defend and propagate my ‘Whiteness’ if you will, so as to insure that my founding fathers heritage and legacy stays intact, and actually flourishes for future generations to come.

** Use the word ‘WETBACK’ as it properly denotes the illegal intentions of usually a Mexican in their attempt to cross the Rio Grande river to find umbrage in America.

** In calling certain Congressional liberals un or anti American because they call our own troops cowards, murderers and terrorists.

** By calling those in the NOW or feminist movements…’FEMANAZIS’ because they are a militant group of butt ugly lesbians hell bent on emasculating the male gender in America. One would only need to see the face of and read the works of Betty Freidan (the lesbian’s leader) to understand my point here.

** By calling for the profiling of young Muslim looking men at all of our airports because so far all international terrorists have fit that profiling description to a t.

Here he has defined the word 'bigot' and described certain scenerios describing this concept. Moving along, posters then agree that ptsdkid is a bigot. CoffeeSaint, Lachean, and americanwoman all do this. Part of Lachean's post and all of americanwoman's post are especially pertinant, so I will post them with the kid's response:

Lachean said:
I would certainly call you a bigot, I have, but only in a few of the ones I listed below are the ones where I see you being biggotted instead of realistic. Those are highlighted in red.

ptsdkid said:
Yeah, I agree with you. I can't believe that someone had actually voted 'NO', that the scenarios posted did not warrant a political bigot. Keep in mind my definition of 'bigot' that clearly stated an intolerant devotion to his or hers own prejudices. Anyone claiming to debate politics is indeed a political bigot...are they not?

Here the kid admits to being a bigot, also admitting to Lachean he voted 'Yes' in the poll. Now the next one is important.

americanwoman said:
Not only are you a bigot but using deragatory words like 'wetback' makes you a racist also.

ptsdkid said:
I didn't realize there was a difference between a bigot and a racist. You do realize that I presented all of those scenarios in true hypothetical fashion? I believe my first sentence in the post said as much. I have no problem in being called a racist by you. Just wish you would look up the word hypothetical first, before responding.

Note the bold. The kid has admitted to being a bigot (political or not) and then equates this word with being a racist. Mathematically we have a geometric proof the follows like this: if A=B and B=C, then A=C. Or, specific to this case, if the kid admits to being a bigot, and he states that there is no difference between a bigot and a racist, then ptsdkid is a racist. Deductive reasoning at it's finest.

Further in the thread, after americanwoman defines both 'bigot' and 'racist' and shows a difference, seemingly, unknowingly, trying to help rescue the kid from the hole he has dug himself, the kid proceeds to dig deeper with this.

ptsdkid said:
(Bigotry and racism) [sic] Like I said, differences between the two are negligible at best.

For a complete transcript of this, I invite you to read the thread.

Now on close examination, one can see the contradiction in the kid's statements. It is certainly nice to see someone, kind of, admitting that they are a racist. Though not an admirable quality, taking responsibility is helpful; we now know what we are dealing with. You have, once again, been destroyed by your own words, kid.
 
I disagree NP. Racism is thinking that one race is superior to another and I don't think that at all. Not one bit of my Conscious or Sub-Conscious believes that one race is inherently better than another.

I have problems with black A-Holes as much as Women A-Holes as much as White A-Holes. An A-Hole or a person that hates me is just a person that is an A-Hole or hates me. That is there deal and I don't like that Individual Person.

People can try to make more out of that than they want if they want.
but have you ever called that black a-hole a n!gger? or similar terms for other races
 
Yeah....deff....the kid isn't racist....he just...eh...who am I kidding.

***I do not have the figures in front of me, and I'm too lazy to look them up now, but the IQ difference between Blacks and Whites is around 15 to 20%. Don't quote me on that figure--it could be higher. And yes, whites have a lower IQ than Asians, but only by around 6 or 7% or so.

I think kid would love to study me. I got an IQ at around 124-127 which is above average by any standard....I'm sure he'd consider me a rarity and a subject worth studying. STUDY ME KID! I'm a dumb American who cheats the goverment and waits for his monthly welfare money to come in the mail! Wait no thats you. I love how this prick was trying to compare me to a ****ing illegal immigrant when he brings nothing to this country by working under the table and hides under some obviously fake illness just so he can get whatever handout he gets. Jerkoff. Sorry. My moms irish roots just joined hands with angry n!gga side and got carried away. Carry on.
 
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***Thanks for recognizing that I was doing good. Stormfront is just an added beneficial source to my already well thought out views on racism. Yes, I do believe that your dual citizenship is unacceptable. How does the obvious choice or dilemma of having two nationalities square with your respect and honor for one mother country? Your case reminds me of the millions of legal and illegal Mexicans working in the U.S.--sending monies back to family in Mexico, never learning to speak English, some opting to head back to Mexico once they've made enough money, living off our welfare (tax payers burden), and never really assimilating into the all-American culture or way of life.

***You don't have a problem in knowing whether you're white or black, or in knowing whether you're a man or woman. Why should you or Tashah confuse this dual citizenship with the standards of being a real American? Your waivering prejudice between being a Canadian or an American can be signs of someone having racist ideals.

Dual Citizenship unacceptable? I do not agree with that crap. Living here in
the metro Detroit area. We have Canadians who live in Windsor (which is
across the bridge), but they work or own businesses here in Michigan, and
many have two homes one in Windsor one here in the states.
The United States government are the ones who created the rules and the
guidelines for across the border living. You need to study the United States
immigration and naturalization (tax laws).

Racism: A belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and
capacities, and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of
a particular race. Prejudice or Discrimination. I am sure that many of you
isn't that bad enough to call a Black person (******) to his or her face.
I am sure that many of you get with your friends and say ****** this or
that ****** did that. However here in America words are ofter used, and
the person using a certain word do not know the real meaning.

Here is the true meaning of the word ******.....A member of a socially
disadvantage class of people. Now its ranks as perhaps the offensive
and inflammatory racial slur. In other words its a word expressive of
racial hate and bigotry. The main part that we all should focus on is
the part about a member of a socially disadvantage class of people.
This includes the white race as well, due to the fact that some of
them are considered as the dis-adventage class of people. So when
that word is used its actually talking about the users own race.

Capt Countesy, Thanks for your post Sir, and I just thought thhat I would
add alittle more indepth information. Also you have pulled the cover off
of two of the most DP racist, and yes...there is a few more yet to be in
the spotlight.
 
***Alright, lets take Japan as an example. There is little if no racial tension in that country because the majority of people living there are Japanese.

Using that logic, then there should never be any racial tension.

Here in America, the majority of people are American.

In Canada, the majority of people are Canadian.

In France, the majority of the people are French.

In Japan, the majority of the people are Japanese.

In (insert any country here), the majority of the people are (insert proper name for people of that nationality).

There is a difference between race and nationality.

If you want to talk about racial tension, then you really should confine your discussion to race instead of trying to obfuscate what you are saying by talking about nationality.
 
Originally Posted by ptsdkid
***Thanks for recognizing that I was doing good. Stormfront is just an added beneficial source to my already well thought out views on racism. Yes, I do believe that your dual citizenship is unacceptable. How does the obvious choice or dilemma of having two nationalities square with your respect and honor for one mother country?

Dual citizenship worked out alright for one of my best friends who's a Japanese-American currently getting his med school paid for by the air force before he goes to serve the country for a few years.
 
There are other forms of racism. Subconscious prejudice is racism. For example, if I'm stopped in traffic and I see a young black guy walking toward my car, I sometimes hit the lock button (and I probably wouldn't if he was white). That's a form of racism, but I don't harbor any hate toward blacks or feel that they are inferior.

I fail to see how thinking one race is prone to criminal behavior while another is not, is somehow thinking that all races are equal.
 
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