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Another Day, Another Trump Dog Whistle

calamity said:
Aren't we tired of having a racist president? I suspect most of us are.

Trump says Department of Education will investigate use of 1619 Project in schools - CNNPolitics



So, yesterday he said diversity training was un-American. Today, teaching about slavery is.

Does this man even have a bottom?
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You sure will get a racist president and VP with Biden-Harris.

Besides, United States history starts in 1776, not 1619, when the English
first brought slaves over to America.

So what is there to teach? Yes, there were slaves, which was horrible. What else?

But I do not speak for my great, great, great, great, etc.... relatives nor was I around when slavery was in effect. But I did have relatives that fought on the Union side to end slavery in the Civil War.

So what do you expect me to do about it now?
 
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apdst said:
Slavery existed in the colonies before 1619. Why do you ignore that?
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please identify in which british colonies that transpired and please also remember to show a cite
 
justabubba said:
please identify in which british colonies that transpired and please also remember to show a cite
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Expect some obscure reference to de Soto who, of course, had nothing to do with establishing the US. ;)
 
calamity said:
Expect some obscure reference to de Soto who, of course, had nothing to do with establishing the US. ;)
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I referred British colonies, not Spanish colonies. We can discuss slavery in the French and Spanish colonies, if you want.
 
apdst said:
The people promoting the the 1619 Project know that Leftists are stupid enough to go along with the lies.

They'll happily believe that The United States was founded in 1619.
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1619 marked the beginning of our addiction to cheap labor, which created enormous wealth and still subsidizes our lifestyles. Started with slaves for 250 years, moved to successive waves of immigrants, now its often illegals.
 
Nickyjo said:
1619 marked the beginning of our addiction to cheap labor, which created enormous wealth and still subsidizes our lifestyles. Started with slaves for 250 years, moved to successive waves of immigrants, now its often illegals.
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No it didn't. We, The United States, didn't exist in 1619 and slavery had existed in England for centuries.

This notion that black folks were the only people to ever be enslaved shows the historical ineptitude of the average Leftist. And they're better educated?...lmao

No wonder you people believe communism can work.
 
Nickyjo said:
What were the lies?
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Lie #1: 1619 was the year that slaves were first brought to the colonies.

Lie #2: 1619 was the year The United States was founded.
 
apdst said:
The people promoting the the 1619 Project know that Leftists are stupid enough to go along with the lies.

They'll happily believe that The United States was founded in 1619.
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I think that the first paragraph of the series states something like “America wasn’t America yet.”
 
apdst said:
Even if the information contained in the is a lie? You don't care. Right?
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I assume the information, like any study, can be seen from a different perspective. Let’s have a conservative journal publish a piece on the history of slavery and let’s critique it.
 
Nickyjo said:
I assume the information, like any study, can be seen from a different perspective. Let’s have a conservative journal publish a piece on the history of slavery and let’s critique it.
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I guess that's one way to call it a lie. But, it's still a lie.
 
apdst said:
Lie #1: 1619 was the year that slaves were first brought to the colonies.
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fact
slaves first brought to british colonies, the genesis of the USA, in 1619

Lie #2: 1619 was the year The United States was founded.
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said colonies emerged to become the USA in large part due to the effort of slaves

and that slaveholding commenced in 1619

hence, the 1619 project name
a project to educate our citizens about the factual history of slavery in the USA

facts the racists among us will protest against
 
apdst said:
No it didn't. We, The United States, didn't exist in 1619 and slavery had existed in England for centuries.

This notion that black folks were the only people to ever be enslaved shows the historical ineptitude of the average Leftist. And they're better educated?...lmao

No wonder you people believe communism can work.
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What part of “our addiction” was not clear? Slavery existed for thousands of years, true. Our addiction refers to the dependence of much of the new world on slavery and subsequent cheap labor. It does not nullify slavery elsewhere. The Mayflower is part of our history too, even though it occurred before the US was formed.
 
apdst said:
Lie #1: 1619 was the year that slaves were first brought to the colonies.

++ Slaves were brought here before then? Didn’t know that. It’s what I was taught. When did they arrive in the new world?

Lie #2: 1619 was the year The United States was founded.
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++ The article says at the beginning that America wasn’t America yet. But slavery is a part of our history as much as Jamestown is.
 
apdst said:
I referred British colonies, not Spanish colonies. We can discuss slavery in the French and Spanish colonies, if you want.
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Lol...you referred to indentured servants, a voluntary decision to work off the cost of transport. Hint: that isn’t slavery. :lol:
 
justabubba said:
fact
slaves first brought to british colonies, the genesis of the USA, in 1619


said colonies emerged to become the USA in large part due to the effort of slaves

and that slaveholding commenced in 1619

hence, the 1619 project name
a project to educate our citizens about the factual history of slavery in the USA

facts the racists among us will protest against
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Racists go ape **** over facts.
 
Nickyjo said:
What part of “our addiction” was not clear? Slavery existed for thousands of years, true. Our addiction refers to the dependence of much of the new world on slavery and subsequent cheap labor. It does not nullify slavery elsewhere. The Mayflower is part of our history too, even though it occurred before the US was formed.
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The want of cheap labor in North America didn't begin in 1619.
 
apdst said:
The want of cheap labor in North America didn't begin in 1619.
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I imagine it might have happened as soon as Europeans made slaves of the people they found here. But why shouod that mean we shouldn’t study the history of African slaves brought to the continent. Lynching occurred before the Civil War and in other countries, for example. It was not touched on much in our history books. Yet the study of lynch culture in the South post Reconstruction is as worthy an endeavor as the study of wagon trains and Indian wars during the post war opening of the west. As an Italian-American, it was useful for me to learn the negative, about the mass lynching of Italians in New Orleans, perhaps the biggest such event in our history, as well as the positive, the role Italians played in the early years of jazz. Neither set of events were taught much. Likewise, labor history is not taught much either: not many people know of the Ludlow massacre in Colorado or that May 1 as a workers day, the big commie holiday celebrated all over the world (including by the Catholic Church) except in the US (and Canada perhaps) involves events that happened here.

This doesn’t mean we should stop studying D-day.
 
Nickyjo said:
I imagine it might have happened as soon as Europeans made slaves of the people they found here. But why shouod that mean we shouldn’t study the history of African slaves brought to the continent. Lynching occurred before the Civil War and in other countries, for example. It was not touched on much in our history books. Yet the study of lynch culture in the South post Reconstruction is as worthy an endeavor as the study of wagon trains and Indian wars during the post war opening of the west. As an Italian-American, it was useful for me to learn the negative, about the mass lynching of Italians in New Orleans, perhaps the biggest such event in our history, as well as the positive, the role Italians played in the early years of jazz. Neither set of events were taught much. Likewise, labor history is not taught much either: not many people know of the Ludlow massacre in Colorado or that May 1 as a workers day, the big commie holiday celebrated all over the world (including by the Catholic Church) except in the US (and Canada perhaps) involves events that happened here.

This doesn’t mean we should stop studying D-day.
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It happened when slavery was dreamed up, thousands of years ago.

You can study it all you want, but don't lie. Don't say things that aren't historically factual. Just like "lynch culture". Lynching was unique the the former Confederate states, nor were black people the only targets of lynching, nor was lynching black people because they were black restricted to the South. Black people were lynched during the 1863 Draft Riots in NYC. The rioters burnt down a black orphanage...

Colored Orphan Asylum - Wikipedia

Pro tip: when studying history, leave your politics out of it.
 
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