Why? I've shown my work for you in the past and it was a futile effort due to comprehension challenges. I even used pretty pictures to make it as easy to understand as I possibly could and it was still a wasted effort. This isn't secret information. Feel free to use Google.
Meh. Your typical cop out. What you do is spend multiple posts giving excuses for why your assertions should be accepted at face value. Don't worry. No one else notices that you suck at this.. Your secret is safe.
Look it up. I have faith in you. Are Congressional staff currently buying insurance through the exchanges? No. Were they initially going to be when the ACA was passed? Yes. Who was in charge of making that change? Democrats. Disprove any of these statements and you will "win" the debate. You can't. Because I'm right and you're just running around asking people to research for you. Based on your posting history it seems futile anyway due to systemic comprehension issues.
All of your statements are false. Prove me wrong.
For one, the taxpayers simply cannot afford it. Two, you are asking the same government that is so bad at running Medicare for Seniors to now run Medicare for all. Pure incompetence.
100% false. the rationed by cost argument is just stupid.
They do when allowed to work. I am old enough to remember when healthcare was not so expensive and I barely noticed the deductions from my pay checks for health insurance, My average copay early in my career was $5.00
Sure it is.
We pay more because every time our idiot politicians attempt fixes, they just make it worse and more expensive.
100% false.
100% false except for the cost. We get the best healthcare on the planet. We just have to pay significantly more for it.
Nope. I have never belonged to a labor union. While they were a positive force in the early sweat shop days, I despise what they have since become. I would never willingly join one. As for health insurance, I am old enough to remember affordable health insurance even going back to the days when I made barely above minimum wage. What made health insurance expensive is misguided government tinkering, some of which was well intentioned, some of which was certainly not.
My entire life experience is not unusual. My point is that somehow I have never seen the worst case scenarios that libruls push when attempting to sell me on universal healthcare.
Misleading statement. The truth is that most with such medical bills do not go bankrupt merely over the medical bills, they go bankrupt primarily over lost income resulting from the health condition that led to the medical bills to begin with. Medical bill collectors will usually work with you as long as you are making payments.
That is nothing but partisan motivated projection. Obama and the democrats reformed healthcare to the point where they took an already expensive healthcare system and made it four to ten fold more expensive for all but the relatively few heavily subsidized. It ran me out of the private health insurance system. The problem was that the democrats were not willing to negotiate seriously with the republicans. They went one party rule simply because they had the numbers in congress and the White House to do so. They tried to pick off a couple republican RINOs for the sake of political cover and failed. What they should have done was worked together with the Republicans to come up with reform that both parties and the American people would be willing to accept.
Race baiting is one of the worst forms of modern racism.
We do not have inherently long waiting lists unless you are seeking an organ transplant.
Only because it has not been allowed to be fully market based since the 1970s.
I simply cannot take you seriously. Worst system in the world? That claim is ludicrous! And yes, government tinkering has driven up the cost. It's started with the HMOs(Ted Kennedy's idea). Then the ACA (Obamacare) blew it to smithereens....took an already expensive health insurance and sent it into the stratosphere for all but the relatively few subsidized.
You need to figure is out. The reason that costs are controlled in the UK and Canadian system is because to avoid the level of cost we have in America, they are simply rationing available healthcare, high tech diagnostic equipment, doctors, nurses, hospitals, etc. It's free at the point of service, but limited to keep the cost down. The same would happen here if we stupidly went with a ponzi scheme like "Medicare for all"
Didn't think you could support your argument. Try again when you do a little research and have a basic competency of the subject matter.
An Obamacare fiasco could blow up on Democrats right before the midterms
It could all come down to … Joe Manchin.www.politico.com
Long story short, Democrats included additional subsidies into "Obamacare" plans that are set to expire just before the midterm elections. They are now scrambling to maintain them despite crushing inflation. Republicans are opposed. Democrats are desperate. They're trying to convince Manchin to bail them out with a reconciliation bill that they intent to pad with a lot of other partisan spending on things like climate change. Democrats are worried that if they fail to get these additional subsidies renewed it will harm them in the upcoming election.
Every time a con speaks out of their ass, that same ass gets spanked by the actual, factual numbers...
For god sakes, man. You didn't support your own argument.
You didn't answer the question. Why would universal healthcare magically create wait times? You think we'd suddenly have fewer doctors?
Healthcare will never function as a proper free market, because the basic market forces are inherently out of whack.
Does every other nation in the world have less meddling than we do?
That simply isn't the case. I've told you this repeatedly, I don't understand why it's so hard for you to understand. Canada and the UK are not the only universal healthcare systems in the world. Every single model is cheaper than what we do. Most systems of universal healthcare have shorter waiting times than the US. Therefore, according to you, they are not rationing healthcare.
Why is it so hard for you to grasp that under a universal healthcare system there is far less profit motive which leads to far less available healthcare?
For at least the third time, I bring up the UK and Canuck systems because they are the closest to what you libruls are pushing for the US under the ponzi scheme known as "Medicare for all". And your suggestion that most universal healthcare systems have shorter waiting times then the US is pure left wing fantasy.
Except it doesn't, because most countries do not have the wait times like Canada and the UK. Last I looked, the shortest wait in the world was Germany.
You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.
Of course they can. It's cheaper than our current system, lol.
Medicare is more efficient than private health insurance.
You don't have to like it, but reality doesn't care. Healthcare is rationed here as well.
They demonstrably do not.
Awesome. However, it is not decades later.
It demonstrably isn't.
Nope. We pay more because healthcare cannot and does not operate efficiently in a free market system, because healthcare is not a commodity or typical service.
100% demonstrably true.
100% demonstrably true, including the cost.
We don't. We aren't even in the top 20 in the world.
So the originally subsidies passed by Obama and Democrats made them soulless, spineless wankers?
Baloney. Our current system is not charging the taxpayers.
Yet the government is printing money to cover the losses. Go figure!
Only to individuals ignorant to the point that theyattempt to expand the definition of rationing to anything and everything that is bought and sold. In reality, rationing is the act of limiting goods or services due to scarcity of goods and service. Having to pay for something does not qualify as rationing
Largely because the government has made health insurance prohibitively more expensive with ill conceived tinkering. Prior to the HMOs, I never had to worry about the cost of healthcare or health insurance. And pre-existing conditions were covered.
Anything and everything can be operated efficiently in a free market, if allowed, and not over-regulated.
Only to those ignorant enough to think cost is the only factor.
Lol yes it is.
No they aren’t.
And we ration healthcare in the US.
Nope. It’s expensive because we operate in a for profit system, instead of how the rest of the developed world does which offers better care at a fraction of our cost.
No they weren’t.
Not healthcare. It’s not a commodity or free market service. It’s life or death.
I’m not talking about cost. I’m talking about quality. We aren’t even in the top 20.
When the libruls start pushing something further away from the UK and Canuck systems, then we can discuss. Right now I am going by what is being pushed.
You are quite confused.
I'm objectively correct.
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