There is plenty of procreation, though. Not every person on the planet needs to parent.
All other things are never equal.
Again, I reference the "chicken v egg" argument.
That's true. The person who said the original quote is CPWill.
The statement doesn't stand because they don't have "intrinsic" value. You can't claim someone's value is intrinsic if it isn't intrinsic. The more believable claim would be that most people have value, but "instrinsic" does not work because value is neither natural nor essential for a person to have.that is true, but the vast majority of people do that and hence the statement stands. you are attempting to judge by the outliers, and the outliers in only one direction.
i'm sure she's wonderful. explain to me again how that alters the math?
There's no math. Your opinion is your own, and by a rate of about 3-1, your opinion is in the minority.
I have yet to see him present any "math" on the subject, apart from some completely randomly derived numbers about the theoretical income of a non-existent woman with vs. without kids combined with the possible income of her children.
Those numbers, nearest I can tell, not only have no basis in any sort of fact or research, but surmises that the only worth of a person is income. Well, I guess teachers aren't very useful then, since they make sweet ****-all these days...
Is it just me? Or is this based on keeping "our race" intact?
a society needs a birthrate of 2.1 to replace itself before it's population starts to shrink and it is incapable of taking care of itself. no society has ever survived having a birthrate dip below 1.8.
There's no math. Your opinion is your own,
by a rate of about 3-1, your opinion is in the minority.
Birthrate or growth rate?
This is an important distinction, that many people seem to overlook (possibly due to the fact that it automatically defeats their argument to word it correctly, possibly due to flawed assumptions on their part), because birth is not the only means of increasing growth rate.
that's an excellent point. Immigration is currently keeping America afloat, population wise. the question becomes one of integration.
Yea because simply popping out a baby makes youre contributions to society greater than someone who hasn't. At the end of the day, all of our societies problem are caused by......lets see here.....whats the word......people.I voted true because mostly it is true. Saying that most people don't become productive members of society and many more actually are very successful is dishonest. You of course do have a small percentage that is going to be a dud but if you quit shooting off fireworks because one of them doesn't shoot off, or you see someone elses fireworks didn't fire off how are you going to really take chances at anything else in life?
Yea because simply popping out a baby makes youre contributions to society greater than someone who hasn't. At the end of the day, all of our societies problem are caused by......lets see here.....whats the word......people.
Well as cpwill said when you consider SSI it does help out. At the very least, anyone with a child contributes someone they will need to buy things for therefore injecting more into the economy. I honestly thing the two proponents of not having children are full of it, Boop has already stated she has had kids so she has at the very least done her part, and Mistress well..I don't know how Mistress contributes to society in any way???
We can relax. She's got us all covered.
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Ive thought of not having children but it doesnt make me or anyone else a menace to society. Hell I'd be able to focus more on work, which could very easily make up for or surpass what one of my children could have contributed, especially if they ended up being a welfare mooching bum, which is becoming an increasingly popular occupation.Well as cpwill said when you consider SSI it does help out. At the very least, anyone with a child contributes someone they will need to buy things for therefore injecting more into the economy. I honestly thing the two proponents of not having children are full of it, Boop has already stated she has had kids so she has at the very least done her part, and Mistress well..I don't know how Mistress contributes to society in any way???
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