Advertisers – including TripAdvisor, Nestle, Wayfair and Hulu – are dumping Laura Ingraham [W:908]

[minnie616]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

The banks will need to be careful about that...people and businesses have choice in who they bank with. If it were made public that such an effort was underway, I would change banks...and I'm a Democrat. Imagine how many Republicans would respond with their $$ and their business?

Citibank has already started a new policy.

From the following:

Citibank has announced a new “U.S. Commercial Firearms Policy” a move it descries as a direct response to recent gun violence. At the same time, Citibank claims this new policy is “not centered on an ideological mission to rid the world of firearms.” The measures that Citibank is instituting are no doubt poll-tested and seemingly minor, but they also undoubtedly represent an ideological mission on behalf of Citibank:

Under this new policy, we will require new retail sector clients or partners to adhere to these best practices: (1) they don’t sell firearms to someone who hasn’t passed a background check, (2) they restrict the sale of firearms for individuals under 21 years of age, and (3) they don’t sell bump stocks or high-capacity magazines. This policy will apply across the firm, including to small business, commercial and institutional clients, as well as credit card partners, whether co-brand or private label. It doesn't impact the ability of consumers to use their Citi cards at merchants of their choice.

Citibank's New Policy on Guns Is a Step Closer to Our Impending Corporate Dystopia | The Weekly Standard

 

[Lursa]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

Well, I did mean to clairify my example by saying overdue and unpaid but the jest of my point was if someone breaks a law even if it a minor law they are no longer law abiding citizens and I would would figure at least 1 percent of the general population including members of the NRA would fall into that category.

People that use pot in WA st are not criminals, but they are in other states.

People that own certain handguns in CA are criminals...but not in almost every other state.

These are the kind of laws that stupidly and unnecessarily make people criminals...and it could make me a criminal in a heartbeat if it WA st declared magazines with more than 10 rounds illegal. THAT kind of legislation is BS. ANd yet, in order not to BE a criminal, I would have to comply...at the expense of my property and very possibly, my safety. Certainly of my personal liberty. (And the 17 round magazines for my handgun are $40 each. I have at least 6, because I need 4 for a type of training/competition that I do).

 

[AlbqOwl]

Re: Advertisers – including TripAdvisor, Nestle, Wayfair and Hulu – are dumping Laura Ingraham after

Astonishing how quickly Hogg's newfound fame and power has turned him into a vengeful, malicious despot.

Most people show their true colors if you give them enough opportunity.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

Do you oppose dissent? Obviously you do, if you want every voice you disagree with to be silenced.

Leaping to false conclusions on insufficient data seems to be your thing.

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

Believe what you want. If I told you I cared what you think I would be a liar.
The links, to the tweets of Hogg and the president of Media Matters and their website tells another story.

No, they don't. You're assigning meaning to them that doesn't exist because you'll do anything to believe that there is no merit in the positions of the "side" that you oppose.

 

[apdst]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

Leaping to false conclusions on insufficient data seems to be your thing.

Prove me wrong.

 

[apdst]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

No, they don't. You're assigning meaning to them that doesn't exist because you'll do anything to believe that there is no merit in the positions of the "side" that you oppose.

Hogg's words don't have meaning?

 

[Manc Skipper]

Re: Advertisers – including TripAdvisor, Nestle, Wayfair and Hulu – are dumping Laura Ingraham after

Most people show their true colors if you give them enough opportunity.

Conservatives just hate children who say no, it appears.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

Prove me wrong.

I already did.

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

Re: Advertisers – including TripAdvisor, Nestle, Wayfair and Hulu – are dumping Laura Ingraham after

There was no organized uprising in those things, no demands for anybody to be fired, etc. There was simply a protest of what conservatives see as offensive which is conservatives exercising THEIR right to free speech, as well as their right to vote with their feet and with their pocketbooks.

There is a huge difference between refusing to participate in something and organizing a rhetorical lynch mob to take somebody down. Policy and action is not the same thing as an expressed though, belief, or opinion.

You're simply making a false distinction. There has been plenty of organization for conservative boycotts online, in print, on TV, and in this very forum. The Parkland students are organized in a different way, but they also have a cause that many of them feel more strongly about than other people felt when Starbucks minimized Christian imagery on its cups or when Nordstrom stopped selling Ivanka Trump's merchandise.

As to your last point, action is action. Changing consumer habits and encouraging other people to do the same thing are the same things whether expressed by telling corporations to change their advertising strategy or by boycotting a corporation's products.

 

[minnie616]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

When we refer to "law abiding" gun owners, we're referring to gun owners who haven't used a gun to commit a crime (murder, robbery, rape, etc.). But, you already know that.

Oh , you mean when Hogg said 99 percent of gun owners were law abiding citizens he meant 99 percent haven’t used a gun to commit a crime ? And those crimes include murder, robbery, rape , etc?

Then why did you only refer to 1 percent of non law abiding citizens as murderers?

Why does he want gun bans and confiscation, if he believes that?

Also, where does he get his data confirming that 1% of all NRA members are murderers? I would love to see a link to that.

 

[apdst]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

Oh , you mean when Hogg said 99 percent of gun owners were law abiding citizens he meant 99 percent haven’t used a gun to commit a crime ? And those crimes include murder, robbery, rape , etc?

Then why did you only refer to 1 percent of non law abiding citizens as murderers?

Wow! Great job at taking my post totally out of context. :lamo

 

[Lursa]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

Citibank has already started a new policy.

From the following:



Citibank's New Policy on Guns Is a Step Closer to Our Impending Corporate Dystopia | The Weekly Standard

That's already the law (their stated restrictions). Is the assumption that gun retailers wont follow the law? Except for high capacity magazines...that will be interesting since they are legal in most states.

Probably gun stores will see if CItibank tries to enforce this (re: high cap mags)....if they dont, they'll change banks.

Ah...I see it's for new clients. Well then maybe they wont get any new gun stores as clients, those new stores will go elsewhere.

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

He's fighting back, because he's butthurt: "how dare someone talk to me that way!"

Hogg isn't a survivor of the Parkland massacre, or any other massacre. He was no where near the crime scene when the shooting occured.

His very own video proves that. Notice he's cool, calm and collective; speaking in his TV-man voice. He also says, "We're on lockdown. Initially, we thought it was a drill"..."I heard one gunshot...then several more".

If he'd been in the kill box, there wouldn't have been any doubt that it wasn't a drill. He sure as hell wouldn't be that calm in the aftermath. No one would. No one's that tough.

Student David Hogg during Florida school shooting: 'It's time to take a stand' on gun control

He didn't survive ****, because his life was never in danger.

See, as someone who's never survived a mass killing, you don't get to make that decision. It is unsurprising to see you employ an even more vile tactic of the far right to attempt to discredit and demean the Parkland students.

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

Hogg's words don't have meaning?

They have plenty of meaning. They don't have the meaning being attributed to them by that poster and other posters.

 

[minnie616]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

Wow! Great job at taking my post totally out of context. :lamo

No ,not out of context.

This is the quote you replied to.

Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
My reply had more to do with "screw him and his agenda' than anything he's said. By the way, he's on record saying that he realizes that 99% of NRA members are law-abiding gun owners and he 'totally' supports that.
Most kids, if they feel like part of something, will get out and vote. Most kids are rebellious- haven't you heard? If you instill an 'us vs. them' feeling in them, they will respond.
Here's something to consider. What would it take to make you feel like being one of a targeted group? What if all those school shootings in 2017-18 happened in Catholic churches? Psycho killers filling their packsacks with clips and massacring Catholics. D'ya think marching Catholics would get a different listen then high school students are getting?
They're a targeted group, and they're being derided for finally speaking up. That won't go away.

Why does he want gun bans and confiscation, if he believes that?

Also, where does he get his data confirming that 1% of all NRA members are murderers? I would love to see a link to that.

 

[JasperL]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

You call it "freedom" when an organization like Media Matters who Hogg partnered with to start a boycott on an individual whose comments he didn't like using bullying tactics to scare advertisers into dropping Ingraham's show? That's freedom? Hell no sir that is not freedom. That is Saul Alinsky 101.

I understand you don't LIKE what's being written and said, the protests, the call for boycott. Great, whatever, I don't really care. What's just a fact, and a critical principle, is those protests and calls for boycott, no matter how wrong or misguided or unfair in your view, are exactly what freedom and free speech look like! Protecting that kind of speech is the POINT of the 1A. The 1A also protects YOUR right to disagree, to support those advertisers if they remain with Laura Ingraham, to support her and her show, to speak out against Hogg and Media Matters!! In short the 1A allows for vigorous public debate, differences to be aired, discussed! FREEDOM!!! That's what it's all about!

 

[Paperview]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

I understand you don't LIKE what's being written and said, the protests, the call for boycott. Great, whatever, I don't really care. What's just a fact, and a critical principle, is those protests and calls for boycott, no matter how wrong or misguided or unfair in your view, are exactly what freedom and free speech look like! Protecting that kind of speech is the POINT of the 1A. The 1A also protects YOUR right to disagree, to support those advertisers if they remain with Laura Ingraham, to support her and her show, to speak out against Hogg and Media Matters!! In short the 1A allows for vigorous public debate, differences to be aired, discussed! FREEDOM!!! That's what it's all about!

So easy, even a caveman could get it.

 

[Acadia]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

I understand you don't LIKE what's being written and said, the protests, the call for boycott. Great, whatever, I don't really care. What's just a fact, and a critical principle, is those protests and calls for boycott, no matter how wrong or misguided or unfair in your view, are exactly what freedom and free speech look like! Protecting that kind of speech is the POINT of the 1A. The 1A also protects YOUR right to disagree, to support those advertisers if they remain with Laura Ingraham, to support her and her show, to speak out against Hogg and Media Matters!! In short the 1A allows for vigorous public debate, differences to be aired, discussed! FREEDOM!!! That's what it's all about!

Hogg isn't representing Americans and their views. He was personally offended and decided to respond by coercing advertisers to leave Ingraham's show. This is not your classic boycott. This was/is extortion.
Hogg is going after companies which are not capitulating to his demands.

 

[apdst]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

See, as someone who's never survived a mass killing, you don't get to make that decision. It is unsurprising to see you employ an even more vile tactic of the far right to attempt to discredit and demean the Parkland students.

As someone whose been shot at, I do indeed get to make that call.

Anyone with an ounce of gray matter in their gourd knows that you don't mistake an actual shooting for a drill if you're one of the ones getting shot at.

Guess what: David Hogg didn't survive a mass killing, because he wasn't in the kill box. Neither was Isabelle Robinson. She admits she was outside and never even heard the shots.

 

[apdst]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

I understand you don't LIKE what's being written and said, the protests, the call for boycott. Great, whatever, I don't really care. What's just a fact, and a critical principle, is those protests and calls for boycott, no matter how wrong or misguided or unfair in your view, are exactly what freedom and free speech look like! Protecting that kind of speech is the POINT of the 1A. The 1A also protects YOUR right to disagree, to support those advertisers if they remain with Laura Ingraham, to support her and her show, to speak out against Hogg and Media Matters!! In short the 1A allows for vigorous public debate, differences to be aired, discussed! FREEDOM!!! That's what it's all about!

One can't say those things, then demand that dissenting voices be silenced. That's classic hypocrisy.

 

[Saladin4]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

One can't say those things, then demand that dissenting voices be silenced. That's classic hypocrisy.

Where is that loud mouth bitch Ingram going her vacation?.....Hopefully she'll never return to her job...

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

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As someone whose been shot at, I do indeed get to make that call.

Anyone with an ounce of gray matter in their gourd knows that you don't mistake an actual shooting for a drill if you're one of the ones getting shot at.

Guess what: David Hogg didn't survive a mass killing, because he wasn't in the kill box. Neither was Isabelle Robinson. She admits she was outside and never even heard the shots.

I survived Columbine. Unlike Hogg, I had a gun held to my head and its trigger pulled. I'm only alive because Dylan ran out of ammunition. So **** all your arrogant and ignorant judgment of people who have been through something I hope you never experience. You don't get to tell us whether or not we're survivors. You're sitting in a room insulting teenagers who have survived something you don't even understand because it makes you feel good to demean trauma victims.

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

Re: Advertisers are dumping right-wing TV host Laura Ingraham after she slammed Parkland survivor Da

Yeah, because they don't want to become one of his targets and be subjegated to the ire of the Hoggatards...lol

I don't love this teenager's message, but I love that he has you all so scared.

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

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Most people show their true colors if you give them enough opportunity.

Is a grown multimillionaire cable news personality insulting a teenage high school student on social media an uglier true color than that student using the same social media to encourage action in retaliation to that unprovoked attack?