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Add USPS to the List Dems can Use In Nov

SenorXm/Sirius said:
Yes, the Number 1 reason the USPS constantly runs in the red is the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006... IIRC it was the Republicans who pushed this through, mostly to punish the USPS Union. In your link Issa is mentioned over and over.. I think that's all you need to know. Issa is an awful person and a liar on Trumpian scale.

Funding their pension 75 years in advance? No business on the planet does that.. It's ridiculous!!! They're funding their pension for future employees that haven't even been born yet, let alone they haven't even hired yet.
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I think both sides went for that bill because the USPS was capable of a profit. When that happened, I looked at the data on the OMB website. Congress would take and spend the excesses. This forced the USPS to try to make more money, and legally made a place for congress to use it. I forget the number I found those years back, but the USPS also has an account with cash in it that congress seized.
 
Luther said:
I see, so we keep letting the unFUNDED pensions to continue to go up....up.... and away!(LOL)
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Almost all other government employee pensions are unfunded.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I think both sides went for that bill because the USPS was capable of a profit. When that happened, I looked at the data on the OMB website. Congress would take and spend the excesses. This forced the USPS to try to make more money, and legally made a place for congress to use it. I forget the number I found those years back, but the USPS also has an account with cash in it that congress seized.
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Problem is the USPS CAN NOT make more money without Congress's OK.. The Post Office has often wanted to cut expenses by closing unprofitable offices and cutting out Saturday delivery..

But Congress says no. That's the weird thing, the USPS actually runs as a private type company BUT Congress holds it's purse strings.. So the USPS can't do a damn thing without Congress's OK.

I'm not just blaming the GOP for the USPS woes.. But don't pretend the bill of 2006 wasn't mostly the Republicans idea.. They pushed it through.
 
calamity said:
Wow, 630,000 more lost jobs!
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How can this be true???
The left is constantly telling us the post office is the one gov agency that is financially selfsufficent and not a burden on taxpayers.

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3leftsdoo said:
Wow, the Democrat imagination!

Where was Trump when the Lindbergh baby disappeared???
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Promoting conspiracy theories from that other planet that he came from.:mrgreen:
 
calamity said:
I hate junk mail like the next guy, and I probably use the postal service for mailing my stuff less than five times a year. But, I still want a functional USPS. WTF, who would not?
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Why do you need a functioning mail services that delivers mail 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year if you only need it 5 times a year.



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j brown's body said:
If only they had the humility of my cable provider.

Businesses should be more like them, rather than the other way around.

I dont see letting the post office go out of business as a political winner, but maybe I'm missing something.
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Theres a compromise between the current system and going out of buisiness.
Why not scale back the current service to every other day and put a hiring freeze in place. That would drastically there expense and inconveince people minimally. The goal should be to gradually phase out the mail system.

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3leftsdoo said:
Democrats = DEEPLY troubled by the imaginary misdeeds of Trump

Same Democrats = Don't care that QPJ Biden's accused of rape

:donkeyfla
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Do you have proof Biden raped anyone? I didn't think so. No different that Trumps 19 accusers that he totally denies. What's good for the goose ....
 
Without post offices, we can forget about voting by mail, something the GOP is irrationally frightened of.

I have seen it suggested that post offices add banking to their services, which seems to make a lot of sense. Much of the country is unbanked in areas where banks decline to go.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Problem is the USPS CAN NOT make more money without Congress's OK.. The Post Office has often wanted to cut expenses by closing unprofitable offices and cutting out Saturday delivery..

But Congress says no. That's the weird thing, the USPS actually runs as a private type company BUT Congress holds it's purse strings.. So the USPS can't do a damn thing without Congress's OK.

I'm not just blaming the GOP for the USPS woes.. But don't pretend the bill of 2006 wasn't mostly the Republicans idea.. They pushed it through.
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I'm not pretending a damn thing. You seem to be another who just listens to someone's propaganda, and believe it's true because it fits your confirmation bias.

This bill passed congress without anyone on either side asking for a vote count. It passed with a voice vote. That speaks volumes of how much overwhelming support it had from both sides.

Actions - H.R.6407 - 109th Congress (2005-2006): Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
 
trouble13 said:
Why do you need a functioning mail services that delivers mail 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year if you only need it 5 times a year.



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What's funny is that the mail processing facilities operate on a 24/7 schedule anyway. It's the carriers and customer service that operate on 6 days. It would probably be more efficient for dividing up the labor of carriers if they operated either 5 days a week, or 7 days a week. A 5 day a week schedule, the carriers could all have the same 2 days off. On a 7 day schedule, days off could be equally spread out, and the mail volume will not differ if deliveries are 5, 6, or 7 days.
 
apdst said:
Are you going to forced to participate in a socialized healthcare system?
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I'm forced to fund the fire department.
 
j brown's body said:
Without post offices, we can forget about voting by mail, something the GOP is irrationally frightened of.

I have seen it suggested that post offices add banking to their services, which seems to make a lot of sense. Much of the country is unbanked in areas where banks decline to go.
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Their fear is quite rational. Easier voting makes it harder for them to win elections.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I'm not pretending a damn thing. You seem to be another who just listens to someone's propaganda, and believe it's true because it fits your confirmation bias.

This bill passed congress without anyone on either side asking for a vote count. It passed with a voice vote. That speaks volumes of how much overwhelming support it had from both sides.

Actions - H.R.6407 - 109th Congress (2005-2006): Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
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You really need to change your 'Libertarian' tag...

Have a nice day.
 
apdst said:
Are you a fireman?
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No, I am a pilot.

Wait, are you saying it's different because I'm not forced to become a fireman?
 
Lord of Planar said:
Why?

Are you under the assumption that libertarians don't seek the facts?
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You are as 1-sided as any poster on this site. You don't care about facts, especially if those 'facts' portray the GOP in a bad light. This USPS thread is a perfect example..

I'm saying no more, I'd hate to get in trouble here on Easter. :lol:

Have a Happy Easter.. Stay safe.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
You are as 1-sided as any poster on this site. You don't care about facts, especially if those 'facts' portray the GOP in a bad light. This USPS thread is a perfect example..

I'm saying no more, I'd hate to get in trouble here on Easter. :lol:

Have a Happy Easter.. Stay safe.
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What's wrong with correcting the lies of people on both sides?

I have corrected right leaning propaganda as well. It just isn't nearly as frequent. Maybe you haven't noticed that some things other people correct about lies on the right, I stay silent on.

Your partisanship is noted, in that you only see with your confirmation bias.

Open your eyes and expand your mind please.
 
Deuce said:
No, I am a pilot.

Wait, are you saying it's different because I'm not forced to become a fireman?
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So, you aren't forced to participate in, or be a member of the service, nor the fire department?
 
apdst said:
So, you aren't forced to participate in, or be a member of the service, nor the fire department?
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And universal healthcare does not force you to become a doctor. Correct!
 
Deuce said:
And universal healthcare does not force you to become a doctor. Correct!
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It forces me to use the government system, even if I don't want to. Judging how Fannie, Freddy, the postal service and Amtrack are doing, we can expect a full court cluster**** from a government run healthcare system.
 
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