Evidently you are, since you insist the soul continues to exist somewhere else after death...
No, it was invented by Satan when he told Eve that she would not die if she ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad...
Reading is not understanding/comprehending...not by a long shot and you prove that point perfectly...
No. I make no such insistence. Reread my post number #363. I only referred to the widely held concepts of western religion.
. . . . you believe in a talking serpent?? And you count this story, among others, as the only things that make sense in life??!!?? Really? REALLY ???
You've proved that point yourself. If you read my post #375, you've shown no signs of comprehending it. OR, you comprehend it all too well, and simply decline to address the content of my second paragraph. There's no amount of "understanding/comprehending" that can contort and distort the words of the bible enough to make it not the work of a misogynist god. And since that lowly attribution simply cannot be applied to the creator of the universe, the only conclusion that logic can possibly bring us is that the bible is a book written by men, about men, and for men. Any other suggestion amounts to nothing less than total intellectual dishonesty.
Sorry, bud...you can't challenge what you fail to understand...at least not in a valid way...
You think and reason like Lursa.
You both got the same "off-key" pov.
Like, you're both yapping......but heck, you both aren't sure what it is you're actually yapping about.
Your responses are coming out as....................vacuous.
FYI
That's what the pro-lifers are fighting for - to change it.
Ignore my foot! Hello?
You're not ignoring it - otherwise you wouldn't even be banging on that keyboard - and joining the fray in this thread!
Hahahaha - what do you think all these protests and debates on abortion from both sides are all about?
What do you think the effort from prolifers - and the fear in pro-choice people - regarding the attempt to overturn RoeVWade, is all about?
Just to pass the time?
I'm afraid that you fail on due diligence and understanding AGAIN.
www.latimes.com
You must have misread something I wrote recently, because I have not recently converted to Christianity. The concept of accepting Jesus doesn't mean much to me, because I don't reject him as a prophet. I never have . Calling somebody a liar about the status of their own religion is very strange.
Pay her no mind...she has a reading comprehension deficit...
Again, this is simple common sense of which you seem to be lacking. Roughly, 46% of Americans are pro life ..something you can't stand to hear, I'm sure. It's those people who hesitate but go ahead with an abortion because its available. Those are the ones who are likely to suffer afterwards ..yes, those people who think the unborn are more than a blob.I'm afraid that you fail on due diligence and understanding AGAIN.
The 'opinion piece' links to a study and discusses it...it's not just somebody's 'opinion.'
"We know this thanks to a long-term study conducted by scientists at UC San Francisco’s Bixby Center for Global Reproductive Health. The study examined differences between women who had abortions and women who were refused abortions because their pregnancies were too advanced.A number of papers have been generated by the study, which included 1,000 women at the outset.A book, by lead researcher Diana Greene Foster, is in the works. And one of the final papers from the study was recently published in the journal Social Science and Medicine."Column: Do women regret their abortions? Absolutely not!
A long-term study finds that women are relieved right after they have abortions and are still relieved five years later.
IMO, now you are just using this as a device to avoid the discussion.
Please return to what we were discussing: you disagree with my claim that abortion doenst negatively affect society. I asked you to prove it does. Please do. Please give some examples. The current one, about 'individual women' has been refuted. By multiple sources, not just the one you referred to, incorrectly, here.
It doesnt matter what the majority of Americans believe when it comes to Const rights....however obviously the majority DOES support elective abortion. The number you are posting includes women that would not have an abortion but still support others choice. It depends on how the poll is worded.
How do you know? Provide some specific reasons. You just dismissed about 5 different sources because they dont confirm your narrative
Of course, this charity and grace need not extend to Packers Fans.
Well, no. Not exactly. What I "clearly do not hold any faith in" is a belief in the historical accuracy, and literal inerrancy of those texts - in other words, that those stories should be taken literally by educated adults. My contention is that if any adult with no preconceived ideas about its content, no knowledge of its origin, and no insight into when it was written, were to pick up a copy of "the Holy Bible" today, and simply start reading it, they would very quickly come to the conclusion that it was, if not merely a poorly written book of fiction, then a book of stories meant to appease the questions of precocious children - from Genesis forward. No intellectually honest person with even so much as an eighth grade education would swallow the cosmology - because it defies everything we've known about the universe and our solar system for hundreds of years already. That should be obvious to any thinking person.
And why not? Is there any evidence that it is anything but exactly that? None that I’m aware of. In fact, after hundreds of years of trying to prove its veracity, nothing has even come close. The government of Israel once spent years, and millions of shekels, to put a team of noted archeologists into Sinai to look for any evidence that would confirm any part of the story of Moses and the exodus - and came up empty!
No. That’s also inaccurate. I only call attention to what worshipping such a deity really entails, in the hopes that its adherents might look into a mirror and admit to themselves exactly who and what they are “worshipping” - and all of that by the admissions of its own alleged author!
Your post:
"LOL - asking me why god spoke of Jerimiah is preposterous, as I feel no obligation to explain any Bronze Age book of myths. In this case, the answer to your question lies with what YOU believe.
If you believe in an omniscient god - one who knows all things from before time to the end of time - then that alone explains that quote with no other qualification necessary. Full stop.
If you don't believe your god is omniscient, then I suspect you'll have to grapple with worshipping a god who is still figuring it out as he goes along.
Which is it? You tell me."
You clearly do not hold any faith in the religions based on the Biblical Stories, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, in whole or in part.
You dismissively refer to the Bible as a book of myths and compare it to "any Bronze Age book of myths". You go on to imply that worshipping a deity for which you hold no faith is a mark of people who are, in your view, less.
It is possible to positively assert your own beliefs without denigrating the beliefs of others.
Of course, this charity and grace need not extend to Packers Fans.
Is it? Really?? Now we come to the crux of why I bothered to post on this thread at all. Remember the title? “Abortion And The BIBLE”. (Again - as if to prove and amplify my point, the Bible is capitalized to emphasize its authority.) It is in the efforts to bring those two things together - the intersection of abortion and the Bible - that is precisely what I find objectionable, in that such an abhorrently and transparently misogynist text - clearly written by men, about men, and for men - should be cited as some kind of moral authority to take a woman’s own bodily autonomy away. Those expressed beliefs - the backward misogynistic ones - I certainly am willing to denigrate! Guilty as charged!! Just as I’m willing to denigrate the beliefs of those who advocate racism, genocide, child abuse, genital mutilation, slavery and rape - ALL of which are sanctioned in “the bible”! In a sane world, everyone would denigrate those beliefs! Don’t you? And if you don’t, then why don’t you??
I never do.
Point taken. It may not have crossed your mind. But my original post arguing about when human life begins was not even addressed to you - and it very much did address the topic of my thought process.
An interesting but entirely different and unrelated topic - perhaps for a different thread.
