That's basically my point. That about sums up my entire argument.WKL815 said:heyjoe,
As I mentioned before, already half of all abortions take place before 8 weeks. I think it is reasonable for a woman to be responsible for knowing her body well enough to investigate when she might be pregnant and end the pregnancy before an innocent sentient person has to die.
LiberalFINGER said:If we're talking about community service, then why did Peterson get convicted of 2nd degree murder for killing his unborn son?
Sadly, most times, abortion is used as a "way out". Like I said before we live in a world where you can escape the consequences of your actions.MSR said:Be careful... the argument needs to be in the center of the reality... very, very few abortions are obtained by rape victims and very, very few abortions are obtained by victims of incest. These are 10th of 1% arguments and will stop the debate cold.
White females ... middle class and upper middle class... get the vast majority of abortions and there are rarely medical reasons and rarely financial reasons. This is the sad reality.
As for Pres. Bush and abortion I think if you call Bush "anti-abortion" you are not dealing with the facts. Bush has never claimed to be against abortion... only against partial-birth abortion. He does however seem to support some limits on abortion as a birth control device.
As for recent legislation against partial-birth abortion... an activist judge has over-turned the law (against the will of the people) and I suspect it will be appealed.
I am sure that you lib's out there will be using this argument when Bush makes his next judicial nomination to the supreme court. But I will not be surprised if his next nomination is neutral on the topic of abortion.
Miscarriages are "natural". Abortions are not.heyjoeo said:To me, that sounds like an inherant contridiction. How can someone who is unborn, be a life? That's like saying every sperm that is wasted was a potential life, because it has the possibility to become one. Miscarriages happen, people don't call that murder (or even manslaughter, people get convinced for manslaughter when they don't mean to kill or it was an accident).
As I've said before, I still don't think abortions should be used as a way out. Also, I think it is a good thing that most abortions happen in the first 8 weeks. It really is a tough issue, and America is very divided over it. I just don't think you can blanket the issue and be totally against it.
Yes, I know. Unfortunately, I'm trying to play catch-up.heyjoeo said:We covered that. You cannot however blame "activist" judges. Talk about a way out...
heyjoeo said:We covered that. You cannot however blame "activist" judges. Talk about a way out...